Trump claims COVID "will go away" - US reports over 100,000 new cases in one day

[Dutch Uncle]

That’s awesome.

Agreed!

 

[dukkha]

ha ha ha
wear a mask! shut it down!

 

[Dutch Uncle]

ha ha ha
wear a mask! shut it down!

Are you agreeing Putin is a tyrannical asshole who needs to be removed from power, comrade dukkha/anatta?

https://www.foxnews.com/world/putin-mask-mandate-russia-coronavirus-second-wave
Putin orders national mask mandate in Russia as coronavirus spikes in second wave

 

[dukkha]

Are you agreeing Putin is a tyrannical asshole who needs to be removed from power, comrade dukkha/anatta?

https://www.foxnews.com/world/putin-mask-mandate-russia-coronavirus-second-wave
Putin orders national mask mandate in Russia as coronavirus spikes in second wave

well at least you can respond on post..not a lot of that around here

Putin has his own problems and is a politician - now tell me how masks stop the spread of COVID?
Oh that's right -you can't

 

[Dutch Uncle]

We might, I’ve always thought it was a strong possibility.

Let's be honest: all intelligent, sane Republicans know Trump is a fucking moron. So why would so many Republicans support Trump up to this point? Why isn't this election a blowout as some predicted? Both sides on JPP predicted one. So why didn't it happen?

My first guess is that both parties are underestimating the concerns and values of 70% of American voters.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

well at least you can respond on post..not a lot of that around here

Putin has his own problems and is a politician - now tell me how masks stop the spread of COVID?
Oh that's right -you can't

LOL Thanks for the proof you can't.

Thanks for agreeing Putin is a fucking moron for mandating masks. Something you know don't work. Please send a report to him about it.

 

[Phantasmal]

Let's be honest: all intelligent, sane Republicans know Trump is a fucking moron. So why would so many Republicans support Trump up to this point? Why isn't this election a blowout as some predicted? Both sides on JPP predicted one. So why didn't it happen?

My first guess is that both parties are underestimating the concerns and values of 70% of American voters.

You’re so nice, I just think my family is grossly misinformed by Fox and OAN.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello Dutch Uncle,

Best wishes for a safe holiday season to all. My family has similar issues.

There's a strong desire among Americans to return to normality, but ignoring reality isn't the best way to get there.

COVID fatigue is inevitable.

This is a tricky war.

The humans against the bug.

So far the bug is winning.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

You’re so nice, I just think my family is grossly misinformed by Fox and OAN.

Agreed on both points!

Agreed on Fox. Fox has turned misinformation* into an art form for profit. They've mastered the art and skill of riding a red wave for money. Before Trump, it was just Fox following the Republicans but after Trump, Fox found itself as a de facto White House Counselor.

That was the good news. The bad news is that both CNN and MSNBC are following Fox with misinformation for profit by riding a blue wave.



*Misinformation can take many forms. In this case, it's "information" geared to extracting profit from their customers. They will give whatever their customers want and, sometimes, push what their customers should think, feel and do.

 

[Phantasmal]

Agreed on both points!

Agreed on Fox. Fox has turned misinformation* into an art form for profit. They've mastered the art and skill of riding a red wave for money. Before Trump, it was just Fox following the Republicans but after Trump, Fox found itself of being in a de facto White House Counselor position.

That was the good news. The bad news is that both CNN and MSNBC are following Fox with misinformation for profit by riding a blue wave.



*Misinformation can take many forms. In this case, it's "information" geared to extracting profit from their customers. They will give whatever their customers want and, sometimes, push what their customers should think, feel and do.

I’ve always said that cable news is for entertainment.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello Crocodile,

So far, tests are negative but that doesn't mean it will stay that way. I'm kind of depressed that Christmas may be on the down-low this season for much of the country. Stores even got wise and spread out Black Friday.

If this doesn't touch your heart there is nothing there...

Enjoy:

Best wishes for your sister and your whole family.

I believe better times do indeed lie ahead.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello Dutch Uncle,

My wife is feeling that way too; her sister is going through chemo and has been worried about her due to COVID exposure since the sister's immune system is reduced. There's a lot of relatives in the area and they want to see the Aunt for Thanksgiving "because it might be her last". Me, being a funny pragmatist, said "if she (the sister) catches COVID from one of the kids, it will be her last."

My suggestion was to use tech. Kids are having birthdays by having all of their friends drive-by in a car and exchanging waves and shouts. Zoom is big, but Facetime works great too. Find a way to make it work without risking killing off several family members (through Six Degrees of Separation).

We, and the chosen family members we intend to visit for Thanksgiving, area all in self-imposed isolation just so we can have this visit. We see nobody else, maintain as little social contact as possible, mostly just to get food.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello Phantasmal,

We might, I’ve always thought it was a strong possibility.

We must be prepared for any possibility. We are strong. If we have to do that, then we shall do our best to survive.

Hopefully that won't be the case. The world is counting on us to oust him and rejoin Paris.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello Dutch Uncle,

Let's be honest: all intelligent, sane Republicans know Trump is a fucking moron. So why would so many Republicans support Trump up to this point? Why isn't this election a blowout as some predicted? Both sides on JPP predicted one. So why didn't it happen?

My first guess is that both parties are underestimating the concerns and values of 70% of American voters.

Well of course they are.

The dancing Trump gif was cute at first but is getting tiresome. Makes it hard to eat in front of the computer. Please poof it?

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello Dutch Uncle,

Agreed on both points!

Agreed on Fox. Fox has turned misinformation* into an art form for profit. They've mastered the art and skill of riding a red wave for money. Before Trump, it was just Fox following the Republicans but after Trump, Fox found itself as a de facto White House Counselor.

That was the good news. The bad news is that both CNN and MSNBC are following Fox with misinformation for profit by riding a blue wave.



*Misinformation can take many forms. In this case, it's "information" geared to extracting profit from their customers. They will give whatever their customers want and, sometimes, push what their customers should think, feel and do.

I'll have to rely on my JPP friends to learn about that. I gave up commercial TV eons ago. I don't even have cable. I like PBS. And for as long as it lasts free videos on the internet. I'm sure that will eventually become clogged with ads or be a paid programming model.

 

[Celticguy]

If Trump prevails the press will continue to wail and gnash teeth over every "case" despite the rather low lack of anything serious happening.
If Biden prevails the press will start reporting the things they have ignored and it will cease to be "a thing".

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Hello Dutch Uncle,

COVID fatigue is inevitable.

This is a tricky war.

The humans against the bug.

So far the bug is winning.

Another doctoral paper for someone: Happiness Index by country during the COVID Pandemic. The US will probably be below average. Understanding why would be the main focus of the paper.

Yes, people are experiencing fatigue, but how much of that is the stress from the election? Two professional liars lying at them for two years straight? Worse, of course, is what you just pointed out: the bug is winning. It all depends upon what measures the nation is willing to accept.

Statisticians can say Americans have a 1 in 103 chance of being killed in a car crash. That's an average: some people are safer than others. Individually, we can choose to drive safely and defensively. As a society, we average out to about 40,000 dead Americans every year in fatal car accidents. That's a sad number. Can't do much about it except to drive safely and defensively and encourage those around us to do the same. Works the same with COVID.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

I’ve always said that cable news is for entertainment.

Agreed. It would be better if it was funnier.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Hello Dutch Uncle,

We, and the chosen family members we intend to visit for Thanksgiving, area all in self-imposed isolation just so we can have this visit. We see nobody else, maintain as little social contact as possible, mostly just to get food.

Such efforts must be weighed; the inconvenience vs. the desire to see relatives. I expect it's not the same for everybody.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

If Trump prevails the press will continue to wail and gnash teeth over every "case" despite the rather low lack of anything serious happening.
If Biden prevails the press will start reporting the things they have ignored and it will cease to be "a thing".

Do you expect that to happen immediately or slowly over the next few years?