Trump denies the fact that police kill Black Americans at a higher rate than white

[Hawkeye10]

As a lot of people to include Bret Weinstein have pointed out this idea that cops are more likely to kill blacks that whites is a lie....police kill blacks at almost the exact same rate as whites when they interact with them....the data is clear.

It is not the cops fault that blacks are more likely than white to be the bad guys....blacks choose to behave poorly.

 

[christiefan915]

Looks like minorities must be committing crimes at a higher rate then, especially from blacks.

The only area where blacks commit more crimes is murder and non-negligent manslaughter, by less than a thousand.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2018/crime-in-the-u.s.-2018/tables/table-43

 

[jacksonsprat22]

As a lot of people to include Bret Weinstein this idea that blacks are more likely to kill blacks that whites is a lie....police kill blacks at almost the exact same rate as whites when they interact with them....the data is clear. It is not the cops fault that black are more likely than white to be the bad guys....blacks choose to behave poorly.

Twice the rate of blacks compared to whites.

 

[Cancel 2020.2]

As a lot of people to include Bret Weinstein this idea that blacks are more likely to kill blacks that whites is a lie....police kill blacks at almost the exact same rate as whites when they interact with them....the data is clear. It is not the cops fault that black are more likely than white to be the bad guys....blacks choose to behave poorly.

Exactly, Hawkeye, exactly.

 

[Cancel 2020.2]

Twice the rate of blacks compared to whites.

Still ANOTHER post FAIL, jackson, ANOTHER post FAIL. Just dreadful.

 

[FreeSpeech]

Statistics show that while more white Americans are killed by the police over all, minorities are killed at higher rates. A federal study that examined lethal force used by the police between 2009 and 2012 found that a majority of victims were white, but the victims were disproportionately Black. Black people had a fatality rate at the hands of police officers that was 2.8 times higher than that of white people.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/14/...tion=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage

Not when accounting for crime statistics you stupid fuck.

Police kill disproportionately more unarmed whites than unarmed blacks when accounting for the disproportionate crime rates EG black males only account for 6% of the population but commit 52% of the homicides. They get killed more police in real numbers because police are located more predominantly in areas with higher crime rates.

Furthermore; black police are more likely to kill black suspects than white police completely debunking the theory that it is racially motivated. The NYTs is BLM Marxist propaganda. The problem isn't police the problem is blacks.

And yes, according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, black offenders committed 52 per cent of homicides recorded in the data between 1980 and 2008. Only 45 per cent of the offenders were white. Homicide is a broader category than “murder” but let’s not split hairs.

Blacks were disproportionately likely to commit homicide and to be the victims. In 2008 the offending rate for blacks was seven times higher than for whites and the victimisation rate was six times higher.

As we found yesterday, 93 per cent of black victims were killed by blacks and 84 per cent of white victims were killed by whites.

Alternative statistics from the FBI are more up to date but include many crimes where the killer’s race is not recorded. These numbers tell a similar story.

In 2013, the FBI has black criminals carrying out 38 per cent of murders, compared to 31.1 per cent for whites. The offender’s race was “unknown” in 29.1 per cent of cases.

What about violent crime more generally? FBI arrest rates are one way into this. Over the last three years of data – 2011 to 2013 – 38.5 per cent of people arrested for murder, manslaughter, rape, robbery, and aggravated assault were black.

Clearly, these figures are problematic. We’re talking about arrests not convictions, and high black arrest rates could be taken as evidence that the police are racist.

But academics have noted that the proportion of black suspects arrested by the police tends to match closely the proportion of offenders identified as black by victims in the National Crime Victimization Survey.

This doesn’t support the idea that the police are unfairly discriminating against the black population when they make arrests.


https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-black-americans-commit-crime

“We found that the race of the officer doesn’t matter when it comes to predicting whether black or white citizens are shot,” Cesario said. “If anything, black citizens are more likely to have been shot by black officers, but this is because black officers are drawn from the same population that they police. So, the more black citizens there are in a community, the more black police officers there are.”

The data show that it’s not racial bias on behalf of white officers relative to black officers when it comes to fatal shootings, and that’s good news. The bad news, Cesario said, is that internal policy changes, such as diversifying police forces, may not reduce shootings of minority citizens.

Beyond officer race, the team drew other conclusions about details related to racial disparities in fatal officer shootings.

“Many people ask whether black or white citizens are more likely to be shot and why. We found that violent crime rates are the driving force behind fatal shootings,” Cesario said.

“Our data show that the rate of crime by each racial group correlates with the likelihood of citizens from that racial group being shot. If you live in a county that has a lot of white people committing crimes, white people are more likely to be shot. If you live in a county that has a lot of black people committing crimes, black people are more likely to be shot. It is the best predictor we have of fatal police shootings.”


https://research.msu.edu/the-truth-behind-racial-disparties-in-fatal-police-shootings/

 

[FreeSpeech]

Post your stats.

52/6

 

[Hawkeye10]

Twice the rate of blacks compared to whites.

You have failed to comprehend my post.

 

[Hawkeye10]

Exactly, Hawkeye, exactly.

I fixed that post...sorry for the low quality...I am multitasking.

I suck at multitasking.

 

[jacksonsprat22]

You have failed to comprehend my post.

Pretty simple to understand what you said.

 

[domer76]

As a lot of people to include Bret Weinstein have pointed out this idea that cops are more likely to kill blacks that whites is a lie....police kill blacks at almost the exact same rate as whites when they interact with them....the data is clear.

It is not the cops fault that blacks are more likely than white to be the bad guys....blacks choose to behave poorly.

The data IS clear. Police kill blacks at a rate approximately 2.5% (or more) than whites

 

[volsrock]

The only area where blacks commit more crimes is murder and non-negligent manslaughter, by less than a thousand.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2018/crime-in-the-u.s.-2018/tables/table-43

They are only 13% of the population! And black males are even less than that..but they commit more murders than whites

250 million whites

43 million blacks


blacks kill more people than whites

 

[Irish]

Statistics show that while more white Americans are killed by the police over all, minorities are killed at higher rates. A federal study that examined lethal force used by the police between 2009 and 2012 found that a majority of victims were white, but the victims were disproportionately Black. Black people had a fatality rate at the hands of police officers that was 2.8 times higher than that of white people.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/14/...tion=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage

Wrong. Far more whites were killed by cops. And of the blacks killed by cops, most were by black officers.

The idea that cops are racist, and killing blacks on purpose is so far fetched, no one can even see it.

 

[FreeSpeech]

Pretty simple to understand what you said.

Kill yourself faggot:

And yes, according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, black offenders committed 52 per cent of homicides recorded in the data between 1980 and 2008. Only 45 per cent of the offenders were white. Homicide is a broader category than “murder” but let’s not split hairs.

Blacks were disproportionately likely to commit homicide and to be the victims. In 2008 the offending rate for blacks was seven times higher than for whites and the victimisation rate was six times higher.

As we found yesterday, 93 per cent of black victims were killed by blacks and 84 per cent of white victims were killed by whites.

Alternative statistics from the FBI are more up to date but include many crimes where the killer’s race is not recorded. These numbers tell a similar story.

In 2013, the FBI has black criminals carrying out 38 per cent of murders, compared to 31.1 per cent for whites. The offender’s race was “unknown” in 29.1 per cent of cases.

What about violent crime more generally? FBI arrest rates are one way into this. Over the last three years of data – 2011 to 2013 – 38.5 per cent of people arrested for murder, manslaughter, rape, robbery, and aggravated assault were black.

Clearly, these figures are problematic. We’re talking about arrests not convictions, and high black arrest rates could be taken as evidence that the police are racist.

But academics have noted that the proportion of black suspects arrested by the police tends to match closely the proportion of offenders identified as black by victims in the National Crime Victimization Survey.

This doesn’t support the idea that the police are unfairly discriminating against the black population when they make arrests.


https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-black-americans-commit-crime

“We found that the race of the officer doesn’t matter when it comes to predicting whether black or white citizens are shot,” Cesario said. “If anything, black citizens are more likely to have been shot by black officers, but this is because black officers are drawn from the same population that they police. So, the more black citizens there are in a community, the more black police officers there are.”

The data show that it’s not racial bias on behalf of white officers relative to black officers when it comes to fatal shootings, and that’s good news. The bad news, Cesario said, is that internal policy changes, such as diversifying police forces, may not reduce shootings of minority citizens.

Beyond officer race, the team drew other conclusions about details related to racial disparities in fatal officer shootings.

“Many people ask whether black or white citizens are more likely to be shot and why. We found that violent crime rates are the driving force behind fatal shootings,” Cesario said.

“Our data show that the rate of crime by each racial group correlates with the likelihood of citizens from that racial group being shot. If you live in a county that has a lot of white people committing crimes, white people are more likely to be shot. If you live in a county that has a lot of black people committing crimes, black people are more likely to be shot. It is the best predictor we have of fatal police shootings.”


https://research.msu.edu/the-truth-behind-racial-disparties-in-fatal-police-shootings/

 

[jacksonsprat22]

Wrong. Far more whites were killed by cops. And of the blacks killed by cops, most were by black officers.

The idea that cops are racist, and killing blacks on purpose is so far fetched, no one can even see it.

Please notice the difference between raw numbers and proportions.

 

[dukkha]

Statistics show that while more white Americans are killed by the police over all,

which is EXACTLY what Trump claimed -he did not say per capita.
and blacks are arrested much higher per capita -so by that logic they would be cop killed more as well

 

[dukkha]

Asked About Black Americans Killed by Police, Trump Says, ‘So Are White People’

Mr. Trump falsely claimed that a white couple in St. Louis who confronted peaceful marchers outside their home with guns were on the verge of being beaten and having their home burned down.

“They were going to be beat up badly, and the house was going to be totally ransacked and probably burned down,” Mr. Trump said.

Video of the incident, which became a flash point in the national debate over racial inequality, showed that the protesters at no point physically threatened the couple.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/14/...tion=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage

the video was redacted. it didn't show verbal threats or the mob gate crashing

 

[FreeSpeech]

Statistics show that while more white Americans are killed by the police over all, minorities are killed at higher rates. A federal study that examined lethal force used by the police between 2009 and 2012 found that a majority of victims were white, but the victims were disproportionately Black. Black people had a fatality rate at the hands of police officers that was 2.8 times higher than that of white people.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/14/...tion=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage

Fake news:

And yes, according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, black offenders committed 52 per cent of homicides recorded in the data between 1980 and 2008. Only 45 per cent of the offenders were white. Homicide is a broader category than “murder” but let’s not split hairs.

Blacks were disproportionately likely to commit homicide and to be the victims. In 2008 the offending rate for blacks was seven times higher than for whites and the victimisation rate was six times higher.

As we found yesterday, 93 per cent of black victims were killed by blacks and 84 per cent of white victims were killed by whites.

Alternative statistics from the FBI are more up to date but include many crimes where the killer’s race is not recorded. These numbers tell a similar story.

In 2013, the FBI has black criminals carrying out 38 per cent of murders, compared to 31.1 per cent for whites. The offender’s race was “unknown” in 29.1 per cent of cases.

What about violent crime more generally? FBI arrest rates are one way into this. Over the last three years of data – 2011 to 2013 – 38.5 per cent of people arrested for murder, manslaughter, rape, robbery, and aggravated assault were black.

Clearly, these figures are problematic. We’re talking about arrests not convictions, and high black arrest rates could be taken as evidence that the police are racist.

But academics have noted that the proportion of black suspects arrested by the police tends to match closely the proportion of offenders identified as black by victims in the National Crime Victimization Survey.

This doesn’t support the idea that the police are unfairly discriminating against the black population when they make arrests.


https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-black-americans-commit-crime

“We found that the race of the officer doesn’t matter when it comes to predicting whether black or white citizens are shot,” Cesario said. “If anything, black citizens are more likely to have been shot by black officers, but this is because black officers are drawn from the same population that they police. So, the more black citizens there are in a community, the more black police officers there are.”

The data show that it’s not racial bias on behalf of white officers relative to black officers when it comes to fatal shootings, and that’s good news. The bad news, Cesario said, is that internal policy changes, such as diversifying police forces, may not reduce shootings of minority citizens.

Beyond officer race, the team drew other conclusions about details related to racial disparities in fatal officer shootings.

“Many people ask whether black or white citizens are more likely to be shot and why. We found that violent crime rates are the driving force behind fatal shootings,” Cesario said.

“Our data show that the rate of crime by each racial group correlates with the likelihood of citizens from that racial group being shot. If you live in a county that has a lot of white people committing crimes, white people are more likely to be shot. If you live in a county that has a lot of black people committing crimes, black people are more likely to be shot. It is the best predictor we have of fatal police shootings.”


https://research.msu.edu/the-truth-behind-racial-disparties-in-fatal-police-shootings/

 

[FreeSpeech]

Asked About Black Americans Killed by Police, Trump Says, ‘So Are White People’

Mr. Trump falsely claimed that a white couple in St. Louis who confronted peaceful marchers outside their home with guns were on the verge of being beaten and having their home burned down.

“They were going to be beat up badly, and the house was going to be totally ransacked and probably burned down,” Mr. Trump said.

Video of the incident, which became a flash point in the national debate over racial inequality, showed that the protesters at no point physically threatened the couple.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/14/...tion=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage

That's a lie the full video before it was scrubbed by the youtube and google algorithms showed them threatening to burn their house down and kill their dog.

 

[dukkha]

Meaningful because over twice the proportion of blacks get shot than whites.

shot by whom? black on black killings by a wide margin