Trump denies the fact that police kill Black Americans at a higher rate than white

Please notice the difference between raw numbers and proportions.

Yes let's:

And yes, according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, black offenders committed 52 per cent of homicides recorded in the data between 1980 and 2008. Only 45 per cent of the offenders were white. Homicide is a broader category than “murder” but let’s not split hairs.

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Blacks were disproportionately likely to commit homicide and to be the victims. In 2008 the offending rate for blacks was seven times higher than for whites and the victimisation rate was six times higher.

As we found yesterday, 93 per cent of black victims were killed by blacks and 84 per cent of white victims were killed by whites.

Alternative statistics from the FBI are more up to date but include many crimes where the killer’s race is not recorded. These numbers tell a similar story.

In 2013, the FBI has black criminals carrying out 38 per cent of murders, compared to 31.1 per cent for whites. The offender’s race was “unknown” in 29.1 per cent of cases.

What about violent crime more generally? FBI arrest rates are one way into this. Over the last three years of data – 2011 to 2013 – 38.5 per cent of people arrested for murder, manslaughter, rape, robbery, and aggravated assault were black.

Clearly, these figures are problematic. We’re talking about arrests not convictions, and high black arrest rates could be taken as evidence that the police are racist.

But academics have noted that the proportion of black suspects arrested by the police tends to match closely the proportion of offenders identified as black by victims in the National Crime Victimization Survey.

This doesn’t support the idea that the police are unfairly discriminating against the black population when they make arrests.


https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-black-americans-commit-crime

“We found that the race of the officer doesn’t matter when it comes to predicting whether black or white citizens are shot,” Cesario said. “If anything, black citizens are more likely to have been shot by black officers, but this is because black officers are drawn from the same population that they police. So, the more black citizens there are in a community, the more black police officers there are.”

The data show that it’s not racial bias on behalf of white officers relative to black officers when it comes to fatal shootings, and that’s good news. The bad news, Cesario said, is that internal policy changes, such as diversifying police forces, may not reduce shootings of minority citizens.

Beyond officer race, the team drew other conclusions about details related to racial disparities in fatal officer shootings.

“Many people ask whether black or white citizens are more likely to be shot and why. We found that violent crime rates are the driving force behind fatal shootings,” Cesario said.

“Our data show that the rate of crime by each racial group correlates with the likelihood of citizens from that racial group being shot. If you live in a county that has a lot of white people committing crimes, white people are more likely to be shot. If you live in a county that has a lot of black people committing crimes, black people are more likely to be shot. It is the best predictor we have of fatal police shootings.”


https://research.msu.edu/the-truth-behind-racial-disparties-in-fatal-police-shootings/
 
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It's not very well presented but the first four are about white homicides.
3% + 16% + 81% = 100%.

The second group of two are about black homicides. 1% + 97% = 98%, the other 2% I presume are other minorities like Hispanics.
 
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Please notice the difference between raw numbers and proportions.

I know how proportions work, and even adjusted, its not significant.

Infact in that study, only NINE blacks were shot who were unarmed. That's not significant in anyway. Stop spreading lies. Our country can't take it.
 
I know how proportions work, and even adjusted, its not significant.

Infact in that study, only NINE blacks were shot who were unarmed. That's not significant in anyway. Stop spreading lies. Our country can't take it.

Over twice as many blacks shot by cops than whites. Of course that is significant.
 
Statistics show that while more white Americans are killed by the police over all, minorities are killed at higher rates. A federal study that examined lethal force used by the police between 2009 and 2012 found that a majority of victims were white, but the victims were disproportionately Black. Black people had a fatality rate at the hands of police officers that was 2.8 times higher than that of white people.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/14/...tion=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage

I am not sure why blacks find it so hard to avoid getting shot by cops. So as a public service to save black lives, here is Chris Rock with advice that only morons find difficult to comprehend:

Chris Rock - How not to get your ass kicked by the police!
 
Asked About Black Americans Killed by Police, Trump Says, ‘So Are White People’

Mr. Trump falsely claimed that a white couple in St. Louis who confronted peaceful marchers outside their home with guns were on the verge of being beaten and having their home burned down.

“They were going to be beat up badly, and the house was going to be totally ransacked and probably burned down,” Mr. Trump said.

Video of the incident, which became a flash point in the national debate over racial inequality, showed that the protesters at no point physically threatened the couple.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/14/...tion=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage

Some simple steps to NOT get shot by cops:

(1) Don't run from them when asked for ID.
(2) Don't fight and resist arrest.
(3) Be polite and respectful.
(4) Do not engage the police in a car chase through urban shit holes.
(5) COMPLY with police commands. If you feel aggrieved, take it up at the station.

This is only rocket science to assholes and morons.
 
The Washington Post has been tracking fatal police shootings — a category of events that excludes deaths like Floyd’s — since 2015. Over that time, we’ve tallied more than 5,000 such incidents, a bit less than half of which have led to the deaths of white suspects. Those shot and killed by police have been white almost twice as often as they’ve been black.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...-top-table-main_bump-trump:homepage/story-ans

MORE BULLSHIT! The Washington Post. :rofl2:
 
Some simple steps to NOT get shot by cops:

(1) Don't run from them when asked for ID.
(2) Don't fight and resist arrest.
(3) Be polite and respectful.
(4) Do not engage the police in a car chase through urban shit holes.
(5) COMPLY with police commands. If you feel aggrieved, take it up at the station.

This is only rocket science to assholes and morons.

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Not when accounting for crime statistics you stupid fuck.

Police kill disproportionately more unarmed whites than unarmed blacks when accounting for the disproportionate crime rates EG black males only account for 6% of the population but commit 52% of the homicides. They get killed more police in real numbers because police are located more predominantly in areas with higher crime rates.

Furthermore; black police are more likely to kill black suspects than white police completely debunking the theory that it is racially motivated. The NYTs is BLM Marxist propaganda. The problem isn't police the problem is blacks.

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