Trump goes right into the belly of the beast and PACKS the Garden!

[Tbird19482]

tariffs are not taxes.

it's a different word with a different meaning.

I thought you Dems were against human slavery and for the American worker?

you're a sold out fraud and traitor.

well Tariffs raise the price of good , YOU MAGA MORONS think the exporting country pays them when all they do is raise the price of what they sell to cover them and the CONSUMER is the one that pays them through those higher prices.
And putting taxes will also raise the price of goods too.
And AGAIN it is the CONSUMER that pays them.
Get you head out of Trumps crouch and start listening to what he is ACTUALLY saying.

 

[Tbird19482]

it's passed along to the customer, but because the customer has a good job and the economy is wealthy from all the wages staying domestic, it's not a big deal.

you need to have a balanced, pragmatic view and not be a myopic idiot stuck on a singular idiotic doctrine.

don't fear change.

or is money only worth printing if it goes directly to foreign oligarchs and the military industrial complex?

I have to ask when did we start having slavery in the USA again?
These people are just working for less money they are NOT slaves.

 

[Lao Tse]

No there won't.

Do you want the government to control the economy and pick winners and losers? YOu don't sound like you understand the free market.



Agreed. I agree with you 100%.

But you don't seem to understand how that will negatively impact the purchasing power of Americans. It's as if you have no clue how industry works or how money is made.

are you for banker bailouts?

 

[Lao Tse]

I have to ask when did we start having slavery in the USA again?
These people are just working for less money they are NOT slaves.

we don't.

but they do in China. so we should boycott all those slave goods, instead of incetivizing slavery with massive purchase orders.

 

[Lao Tse]

I have to ask when did we start having slavery in the USA again?
These people are just working for less money they are NOT slaves.

ok, whip cracker.

they're NOT slaves. especially not the Uighurs.

 

[Daylight63]

it's passed along to the customer, but because the customer has a good job

Gotta stop you right there: the tariffs come first, then YEARS LATER the manufacturing jobs come back home. In the interim the consumer is paying more without benefit of one of those sweet new American manufacturing jobs.

I've actually seen this play out in companies I've worked for as they shuttered manufacturing facilities overseas and brought some work back home. It takes a lot of time and a significant cost. ESPECIALLY if the goal is to bring back factory jobs which require years of work to set up, build, develop the infrastructure for.

So your plan will work, but it will take YEARS of pain for the American consumer. I kind of doubt that they have it in them to put up with it for very long (given how loudly they've complained about the recent cost spikes due to inflation).

you need to have a balanced, pragmatic view

My view is pragmatic. From having spent a few decades here in corporate American watching the sausage get made.

or is money only worth printing if it goes directly to foreign oligarchs and the military industrial complex?

Honestly it is like you don't see that I agree with you in the desire to get our jobs back. But talking to you is not unlike having the same conversation with a 3rd grader who has no clue how all of this works.

I'm trying to tell you your dream, as laudible as it is, WILL cause problems. Problems a LOT bigger than you are giving them credit for being.

Let's say you were presenting an idea to the Board of Directors. If you haven't thought about the downsides an potential risks, you will be laughed out of the room very quickly.

 

[Tbird19482]

ok, whip cracker.

they're NOT slaves. especially not the Uighurs.

Well they aren't they do get paid for their work. and they can go look for better jobs if they want, the USA is still a free country until your orange GOD gets in and makes it a DICTATORSHIP like he wants to.

 

[Daylight63]

are you for banker bailouts?

No. Why would you think that?

Oh, I know! Because you don't really understand what I'm talking about. Apologies.

 

[Lao Tse]

Gotta stop you right there: the tariffs come first, then YEARS LATER the manufacturing jobs come back home. In the interim the consumer is paying more without benefit of one of those sweet new American manufacturing jobs.

I've actually seen this play out in companies I've worked for as they shuttered manufacturing facilities overseas and brought some work back home. It takes a lot of time and a significant cost. ESPECIALLY if the goal is to bring back factory jobs which require years of work to set up, build, develop the infrastructure for.

So your plan will work, but it will take YEARS of pain for the American consumer. I kind of doubt that they have it in them to put up with it for very long (given how loudly they've complained about the recent cost spikes due to inflation).



My view is pragmatic. From having spent a few decades here in corporate American watching the sausage get made.



Honestly it is like you don't see that I agree with you in the desire to get our jobs back. But talking to you is not unlike having the same conversation with a 3rd grader who has no clue how all of this works.

I'm trying to tell you your dream, as laudible as it is, WILL cause problems. Problems a LOT bigger than you are giving them credit for being.

Let's say you were presenting an idea to the Board of Directors. If you haven't thought about the downsides an potential risks, you will be laughed out of the room very quickly.

nobody said its easy.

you're a corrupt traitorous asshole.

this is not a policy for CEOs to weigh in on.

of course they will hate it.

they can ATlas shrug and go fuck off then.

the parasite class dies without it's host.

 

[Tbird19482]

No. Why would you think that?

Oh, I know! Because you don't really understand what I'm talking about. Apologies.

You don't have to apologize for his stupidity.

 

[Daylight63]

you're a corrupt traitorous asshole.

Because I agree with you on the intent? You shouldn't denigrate your own position. Bringing jobs back to the US is not traitorous.

this is not a policy for CEOs to weigh in on.

So you're a Marxist? This starting to make more sense then. If you want central control of the economy that's a very different model. Not sure I'm down with that. I see a lot of BIG problems with the way we run capitalism but I don't think Marxism is the route forward.

they can ATlas shrug and go fuck off then.

Are you... John Galt?

the parasite class dies without it's host.

I'm not quite ready to sign on for a Proletarian Revolution just yet. Good luck with that though.

 

[Lao Tse]

Because I agree with you on the intent? You shouldn't denigrate your own position. Bringing jobs back to the US is not traitorous.



So you're a Marxist? This starting to make more sense then. If you want central control of the economy that's a very different model. Not sure I'm down with that. I see a lot of BIG problems with the way we run capitalism but I don't think Marxism is the route forward.



Are you... John Galt?



I'm not quite ready to sign on for a Proletarian Revolution just yet. Good luck with that though.

no.

marxism is when CEOs implement race policies and gender quotas at the corporate level.

populism is not marxism.

Marxism is an astroturfed faux populism designed by monarchists and Satan worshippers.

 

[ExpressLane]

Don't worry. That's probably the most important thing in this election. It's a stark contrast between Kamala and Trump. Trump always speaks truth. I can't think of one instance that the man hasn't been 100% truthful. Well....I bet a time or two he did a little white lie to get a woman into bed...you know like "Of course I'm not married". But that's forgivable.

Lying about a stupid, fucking bottom of the barrel meaningless minimum wage job that everyone except Trump had to endure growing up is beyond the pail.

Is that any worse than a 29 year old sleeping with a 60 year old married man to get a start in politics and a free BMW.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

Oops! Foiled again!

She's a pathological liar, and apparently can't remember what b.s. she's said from Monday to Tuesday. Mostly, like her would-be cyber lover pEarl, she just makes shit up to get a reaction and applause from the other low-info trolls. It's the hallmark of those with no real lives, no honesty or integrity, and no friends.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

No, a pathetic excuse for a man is the one who called his opponent a cunt, and even more pathetic are those who excuse it.

Oh great, now you've done it. That pathetic trunt (= Trump + cunt, credit to NHB) is going to cry about how SHE'S been called that but YOU never said boo and she is practically swooning in outrage. Wait for it. While you wait, there's this: lol

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

I was flattered, honored to stand next to Trump: Lee Greenwood | Newsline | "When they put me on stage next to him, I'm flattered, I'm honored." Lee Greenwood described singing at the Trump rally with the former president at... | By NEWSMAX | Faceb

"When they put me on stage next to him, I'm flattered, I'm honored." Lee Greenwood described singing at the Trump rally with the former president at...

www.facebook.com

"Newsmax"!!!

We knew it! Nothing like proving that you truly are a gullible, hate-filled, moron.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

He can try, but the law is the law.

Agreed on MAGAts being assholes. Their biggest problem is that they are dumbassed cowards. They'll cheer others to commit violence but won't do it themselves.

Well, it USED to be. #TRE45ON has broken innumerable laws and so far has gotten away with it. Nothing will stop him this time.

 

[Althea]

They had a huge crowd outdoors too.

LMAO. Vendors offering trump merch at half price.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

Funny you mention that. trump's Nazi gathering in MSG inspired hundreds of thousands of Latinos/Latinas in Pa.(and every state) to vote. They ain't voting for trump, even if they had planned to before.

Pennsylvania: anger among Puerto Ricans in key swing state after racist remarks

Comments at Trump rally lead to anger and indignation in one of the most important battleground states in the election

www.theguardian.com

Good. I noticed that unlike Toxic, who used Newsmax as a cite, you chose to bolster your comment's truth with a credible source. Guess which one of you I find most truthworthy, while the other's just a MAGAT troll?

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

If you feel that way don't vote for him...

Speaking of "low IQ MAGATs...