Trump going to jail for phone call to Georgia SoS to “find 11,780 votes”

zymurgy said:
shit stain still on with his russia conspiracy.
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Then how come whenever it is brought up, this is your compulsive reaction?

You ask for evidence of collusion, it's given to you, and then instead of accepting it, you pretend it away.

So where's all this voter fraud?

And how come on 1/6, instead of being in DC to "stop the steal" that you claim occurred for three months, you were here on JPP shitposting instead?

Why? Didn't you believe your own hype? Or were you just too afraid to go to DC so you just got other people to do that work so you didn't have to?
 
LV426 said:
Then how come whenever it is brought up, this is your compulsive reaction?

You ask for evidence of collusion, it's given to you, and then instead of accepting it, you pretend it away.
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because we put up with your shit stain bullshit for over a year and it amounted to nothing

you are the baby that cries wolf. you did not give evidence - you listed some conspiracy theory nonsense - same as before.
 
zymurgy said:
because we put up with your shit stain bullshit for over a year and it amounted to nothing
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No, it only amounted to nothing because Republicans instinctively coddled Trump.

And then he in turn cost them the Senate.

And this is the guy you want running in 2024?

OK brainiac.
 
zymurgy said:
you did not give evidence - you listed some conspiracy theory nonsense
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How is it a conspiracy theory when it actually happened?

Manafort gave confidential GOP polling data to Konstantin Kilimnik and then, via text message, told him to give it to Oleg Deripaska.

Why would Manafort do such a thing?
 
Damocles said:
This is not current events and has been debunked.
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What has been debunked? Nothing.

Trump is on recorded audio telling Raffensperger to "find votes".

You're trying to magnify a clarification the WaPo made and you're doing that because you either didn't read the clarification yourself, or you did and are trying to misrepresent what it was.

The WaPo did not retract anything about Donald Trump calling to rig the election because it's on audio.

So what are you going to believe? Damocles, or your own lying ears?
 
LV426 said:
What has been debunked? Nothing.

Trump is on recorded audio telling Raffensperger to "find votes".

You're trying to magnify a clarification the WaPo made and you're doing that because you either didn't read the clarification yourself, or you did and are trying to misrepresent what it was.

The WaPo did not retract anything about Donald Trump calling to rig the election because it's on audio.

So what are you going to believe? Damocles, or your own lying ears?
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bwahahaha. tin foil hat has no allies.

cuckoo
 
Joe Capitalist said:
Trump is fucked and he knows it. Good move by the SoS to record the phone call. Did I say Trump is fucked?

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In a new 109-page report, D.C. think tank the Brookings Institution analyzed publicly available evidence concerning Trump’s and his allies’ efforts to pressure Georgia officials to “change the lawful outcome of the election,” concluding that the 45th president could be charged with multiple crimes. Obviously, one of the least helpful things Trump has going for him is his infamous phone call to Republican secretary of state Brad Raffensperger on January 3, during which Trump told the guy to “find 11,780 votes” to overturn Joe Biden’s win in the state. “There’s no way I lost Georgia,” Trump said numerous times throughout the call, though of course he did. “There’s no way. We won by hundreds of thousands of votes.”

The report also notes that Trump both publicly pressured and personally contacted a number of Republican officials in the state, including Attorney General Chris Carr and Governor Brian Kemp, to get their help in declaring him the victor. (The men did not go along with the plot, which might explain why Trump pretended to endorse Stacey Abrams for Georgia governor over the weekend.) The report, penned by Norman Eisen, Joshua Matz, Donald Ayer, Gwen Keyes Fleming, Colby Galliher, Jason Harrow, and Raymond P. Tolentino, notes that the then president called Carr and Kemp in December to beg them to go along with “his increasingly desperate plans to decertify his loss.” The authors warn that criminal liability could extend to Trump allies as well, including Rudy Giuliani.

Among the charges Trump himself could be hit with, the authors believe, are “criminal solicitation to commit election fraud; intentional interference with performance of election duties; conspiracy to commit election fraud; criminal solicitation; and state RICO violations,” in addition to violations of more than a dozen other Georgia state statutes. “We conclude that Trump’s post-election conduct in Georgia leaves him at substantial risk of possible state charges predicated on multiple crimes,” the report states.
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I love this OP so hard.
 
MAGA said:
LMAO, after 4 years of lying from the left, I don't think so:laugh:
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that is not thinking. Are you saying it is OK to ask an SOS to do that? Are you saying he broke no laws? Or do you just not care if Trump acts immorally and illegally?
 
I've said it before, and I will say it again, short of actually shooting someone on 5th Avenue in broad daylight, Trump is never going to jail, in fact, will never face serious criminal charges

To begin, he has an army of accountants and attorneys that will postpone and delay any and everything they can by any means to extend any legal matters out beyond Trump's life time

And more importantly, as we have learned from January 6th, there exists a leading political party, a major national news network, and a third of the public that will defend and advocate for Trump regardless of what he does, and Trump knows it, in his mind, he has carte blanche to do what he likes short of shooting that someone on 5th Avenue

Sad, but true
 
archives said:
I've said it before, and I will say it again, short of actually shooting someone on 5th Avenue in broad daylight, Trump is never going to jail, in fact, will never face serious criminal charges

To begin, he has an army of accountants and attorneys that will postpone and delay any and everything they can by any means to extend any legal matters out beyond Trump's life time

And more importantly, as we have learned from January 6th, there exists a leading political party, a major national news network, and a third of the public that will defend and advocate for Trump regardless of what he does, and Trump knows it, in his mind, he has carte blanche to do what he likes short of shooting that someone on 5th Avenue

Sad, but true
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Trump hs a lot of trouble getting good attys. He refused to pay his bills or just paid what he wanted so often, that he cannot get good ones. He thought they should be happy to just have him as a client.
 
Nordberg said:
Trump hs a lot of trouble getting good attys. He refused to pay his bills or just paid what he wanted so often, that he cannot get good ones. He thought they should be happy to just have him as a client.
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But he gets them, and even as incompetent or inexperience as they may be, they know enough and have the resources to delay, impede, and postpone anything a public defender can raise
 
Nordberg said:
that is not thinking. Are you saying it is OK to ask an SOS to do that? Are you saying he broke no laws? Or do you just not care if Trump acts immorally and illegally?
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When GA, PA, and MI stopped the vote count it is the exact same thing, first time in my lifetime 3 swing state stopped the count to see how everyone else looked before they resumed, democrats are always don't do as we do, do as we say.
 
Damocles said:
There is no link to an article in the OP. This is not a current event.
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That's what's bothering you? There you go:
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/09/donald-trump-georgia-criminal-investigation-charges

The article, published September 27, 2021, continues:

Referencing the fact that Trump would likely claim that everything he did was just part of his job as president, the report declares: “Stated simply, soliciting and then threatening senior state officials to alter the outcome of a presidential election does not fall within any reasoned conception of the scope of presidential power.”
 
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