Trump got $413,000,000.00 from daddy

Nordberg said:
Plenty of evidence that Trump cheated workers and contractors as a policy. He threatened law suits if people came after the money he owed them. Trump Univ. is another example. He was conning people with his great showmanshgip and lies .It cost him 25 million to settle that one. Trump values money over honesty and fair play.
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And his BUDDY in FLORIDA, the AG, refused to take the case. SHE IN RETURN got a $25,000 campaign contribution from TRUMP'S FOUNDATION which IS illegal and a discount fundraiser at MarALago with Guiliani as the emcee.
 
There is nothing wrong with inheriting a half $1 billion dollars from your wealthy family, there is something wrong with lying about it.
 
Nordberg said:
Plenty of evidence that Trump cheated workers and contractors as a policy. He threatened law suits if people came after the money he owed them. Trump Univ. is another example. He was conning people with his great showmanshgip and lies .It cost him 25 million to settle that one. Trump values money over honesty and fair play.
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So much so...that if he saw what you wrote there, he'd say you are an idiot if you don't.

For him...money can be spent. Honesty and fair play are for chumps.
 
Thing1 said:
I agree that's pretty dumb.

But Trump still lied, in a very big way. He essentially fabricated his whole narrative of achieving success.

Doesn't matter. We're firmly entrenched in the post-truth era now.
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Tell us, if he inherited $20mm or $50mm... and turned it into $1B... that is still pretty successful. Getting bent out of shape saying it is a lie in a 'very big way' because he exaggerated a bit? That is just Dems looking for something to bitch about. It is comical that the NYT spent so much effort trying to say something bad about Trump from decades ago.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
If Trump got 413M in inheritance and lived a decent life, I'd have no problem with it.

If he grew up on the streets and became the asshole that he is,
I'd have a big problem with it,
but I'd sort of understand how it could happen.

When a person starts out with 413M and still,
with all those advantages,
manages to be a total asshole anyway,
I resent him/her sharing the oxygen supply.
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He did not start out with $413mm... that is simply the NYT trying to bullshit people. Again, their intent was to get morons to quote that number knowing that they would do so without context.
 
Superfreak said:
Tell us, if he inherited $20mm or $50mm... and turned it into $1B... that is still pretty successful. Getting bent out of shape saying it is a lie in a 'very big way' because he exaggerated a bit? That is just Dems looking for something to bitch about. It is comical that the NYT spent so much effort trying to say something bad about Trump from decades ago.
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I agree w/ the bolded. Which actually makes Trump lying about it that much more unnecessary, and revealing of his character.

I just find it amazing how accepting you guys that he just lies about stuff. It's all, "what's the big deal?" now. Zero doubt that if it was Clinton or pretty much any Dem, it would be a pretty major deal w/ you. You'll deny it, but that's just what ya do.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
and what ethical and legal implications do you draw from complying with IRS regulations.....remember this is all gleaned from filed tax returns.....people don't put illegal activity on their tax returns........
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People do, in fact, put illegal things on tax returns. Sometimes the IRS catches it in an audit. Sometimes it doesn't.
 
Superfreak said:
He did not start out with $413mm... that is simply the NYT trying to bullshit people. Again, their intent was to get morons to quote that number knowing that they would do so without context.
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The whole point is that it doesn't matter.
An asshole is an asshole is an asshole no matter how he started out.

It's just worse for a person with all the advantages to become an asshole anyway.
Either way, Trump is an insufferable asshole regardless of how he started out.
 
Nordberg said:
Plenty of evidence that Trump cheated workers and contractors as a policy. He threatened law suits if people came after the money he owed them. Trump Univ. is another example. He was conning people with his great showmanshgip and lies .It cost him 25 million to settle that one. Trump values money over honesty and fair play.
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Maybe I'm just not empathetic enough, but Trump University is another example where I have trouble feeling bad for his victims. Trump was, by then, an extremely well known con artist, and his schemes of stiffing contractors, deceiving investors, and bankrupting businesses to leave others holding the bag, were well known. People who paid for instruction from Trump University were basically saying "I don't want to do the hard work needed to get an education at a real business school -- just teach me the tricks for screwing people over in real estate, the way you do." There's poetic irony in them being the ones who got screwed.
 
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Superfreak said:
Tell us, if he inherited $20mm or $50mm... and turned it into $1B... that is still pretty successful.
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How successful turning $50mm to $1B is depends entirely on timeline. If you start with $50 million and turn it into $1 billion over the course of 30 years, for example, then you got an annualized return well below what any dummy with an index fund would have gotten in the same time (that works out to a 10.5% return, whereas the total return on the S&P 500 has averaged 11.2% in Trump's lifetime).

See my top post regarding what Trump would be worth today if, instead of squandering all those handouts from his father, he'd simply stashed them in an index fund and left the investing to smarter people.
 
Oneuli said:
People do, in fact, put illegal things on tax returns. Sometimes the IRS catches it in an audit. Sometimes it doesn't.
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since these are tax returns from the 50s and 60s do you really think there is something illegal on them?.......please, get a brain......oh wait, you think its illegal because the NYT told you so, right?.......lol
 
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