Trump is an idiot

christiefan915 said:
fairus = thinly-veiled white supremacists.

FAIR has been criticized for accepting contributions from the Pioneer Fund. Between 1982 and 1994, FAIR received $1.2 million from the foundation.[SUP][27][/SUP] The Pioneer Fund focuses on projects it perceives will not be easily funded because of controversial, racial, or pro-eugenics subject matter.[SUP][10][/SUP] The Pioneer Fund was described by the Sunday Telegraph as a "neo-Nazi organization closely integrated with the far right in American politics" in 1989
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Stop with the re-directs/mis-direction nonsense.

Their data primarily comes from GOVERNMENT sources, and attacking the messenger might have been a reasonable defense against some posters before, but I won't tolerate it - its childish nonsense. You need to either detail what EXACTLY is incorrect about the specific claims in my post, or admit you lied about and have no genuine rebuttal.
 
Mr.Badguy said:
ILA mentioned amnesty with 25 years of not being able to vote. Therefore, people here LEGALLY would not be able to vote. Please try to keep up, I know it's difficult for you, but the Lord helps those who help themselves or something.
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Are you are under the hilarious impression that the same illegals who have extensively used stolen SS #s to obtain jobs are not using them to vote? That explains a lot.
 
Buckly J. Ewer said:
So you say ... Can you cite an example?
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1) Chicago 1960, where JFK was provided with lots of fake votes by his family's political machine.
2) The Clintons in 1996 forcing INS to approve over 1 million citizens through a massively accelerated process that ignored felony convictions to help Bill's re-election campaign.
3) ACORN activities, which are legion and well-known
4) http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guyben...-dozens-of-illegal-voters-in-florida-n1811547

There's plenty, for those willing to research the issue.
 
Taft2016 said:
What you're actually asking is "Does any serious American politician believe in fascism?", which was hot consideration among the American Left in the 1920s to 1930s as an attractive alternative in the socialism vs. capitalism debate. It was discussed under the reasonable sounding heading of "The Third Way."

Today's American Left has retooled fascism and removed its less savory elements; militarism, nationalism, imperialism, and police statism. But at its core, fascism remains an economic system, like socialism and capitalism. The American Left has managed to establish the perception that fascism is defined by those less savory elements and not its economic mechanizations. So today's American Left openly advocates fascism.

Government regulations and costly lawsuits mean that the established lords of any industry will remain so and not be replaced by newcomers. How difficult is it to start a new oil company, tobacco company, drug company, etc.? The regulatory fees and lawsuit payouts are cost-effective to the lords of industry because the regulations will manage to also kill any infant competition in the cradle. Only the established lords may absorb the government driven costs and survive.

In a truly capitalist society, the free market picks the winners and losers in a constantly evolving battle. In the United States economy the winners have already been designated to remain the winners in perpetuity; General Electric, General Motors, etc.

So the answer to your question is: "Yes, many American politicians believe in fascism, foremost among them is President Obama."
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As you know, the American Right heavily supported Hitler right up till the War, which is why they support its survival in 'Israel'. I don't think that you know much about this question. How would you define 'fascism'?
 
Taft2016 said:
No, that is how fascist governments organized fascism.



Not entirely true. A costly social safety network invariably accompanies fascism. There is invariably a costly corporate tax on the selected winners, a sort of Don Corleone protection fee. Which again, is cost-effective in comparison to fighting off emerging competition.
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As you know, classical capitalism never existed, and never could. At the very least it demands a police state to keep it in place. Fascism makes people live on grass - otherwise it is just capitalism as usual.
 
iolo said:
As you know, the American Right heavily supported Hitler right up till the War, which is why they support its survival in 'Israel'. I don't think that you know much about this question. How would you define 'fascism'?
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The ability to stand words on their heads is the sign of a true leftist. Modern Israel would be an anathema to Hitler: it would represent a failure of Nazi policy and he would be sided with his ideological cousins in seeking the demise of the Jewish state.
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
The ability to stand words on their heads is the sign of a true leftist. Modern Israel would be an anathema to Hitler: it would represent a failure of Nazi policy and he would be sided with his ideological cousins in seeking the demise of the Jewish state.
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As you know, Nazis and Zionism grew out of the same roots and have the same racist assumptions: all the Zionists learned from the Holocaust was to be the ones doing the racist killing.. Nowadays, like the American Right, Hitler would be murdering Muslims, as you know. All that bullshit was just a means to an end, namely the defence of capitalism.
 
transwarpdrive said:
Stop with the re-directs/mis-direction nonsense.

Their data primarily comes from GOVERNMENT sources, and attacking the messenger might have been a reasonable defense against some posters before, but I won't tolerate it - its childish nonsense. You need to either detail what EXACTLY is incorrect about the specific claims in my post, or admit you lied about and have no genuine rebuttal.
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Cite the government sources for all the data. They've inserted their own info that can't be checked.

"While Carrying Capacity Network endeavors to make sure that all materials contained in our publications are accurate, CCN is not responsible for the reliability of information submitted for publication."

This is not government data:

Illegal Alien Population (2009 FAIR est.) ]11,900,000

Annual Costs of Illegal Aliens (2009 FAIR est.) $113 billion






 
iolo said:
As you know, Nazis and Zionism grew out of the same roots and have the same racist assumptions: all the Zionists learned from the Holocaust was to be the ones doing the racist killing.. Nowadays, like the American Right, Hitler would be murdering Muslims, as you know. All that bullshit was just a means to an end, namely the defence of capitalism.
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Anyone who advocates a free Jewish state in the Middle East is a 'Zionist'. Nazism is an ideology based in part on racial supremacy and antisemitism.

The latter sounds a tad familiar.

There's no shortage of historical evidence that Hitler and the Islamists of his time enjoyed some mutual admiration. I'll be happy to link it.
 
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