"Trump Said Campaign Finance Violations Aren't a Crime"

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"Speaking under oath in court Tuesday, Michael Cohen admitted arranging payments to keep a former Playboy model and a porn star quiet during the 2016 election about alleged affairs “in coordination with and at the direction of a candidate for federal office” — Trump. He told the judge that he knew what he was doing was illegal but that he did it anyway.

All of these admissions, as the Judge presiding over the case, William H. Pauley III, said in court Tuesday, rendered Cohen’s actions a felony: he knew he was breaking the law — specifically the Federal Election Act, which regulates money in politics — and he did it anyway. If he had no knowledge he was doing anything illegal, but merely donated more money than the federally allotted limit, he potentially could have faced a less severe repercussion, such as a monetary fine from the Federal Election Commission.


“The difference between a campaign finance violation that is a crime and a campaign finance violation is a civil matter is whether the action was taking knowingly and willfully,” explained Paul S. Ryan, the Vice President of Policy & Litigation at Common Cause, the non-partisan organization that filed complaints with the Department of Justice and the Federal Election Commission earlier this year regarding these payments."

"Nevertheless, Trump tweeted Wednesday morning that the violations to which Cohen pleaded guilty weren’t really crimes"

http://time.com/5374619/donald-trump-campaign-finance-law-crimes/

Appears that we are now moving in Trump's illusionary reality beyond "truth isn't the truth" to "law ain't law," the alternative law, and after the right wing media pounds the script home, the lemmings will argue it
 
what Trump tweeted, in your own link by the way was that what Cohen pleaded guilty to was the same thing Obama was charged with.

Which by the way was not only not reported by your heroes at CNN but was settled by paying a fine

so tell us nut-bag

what do you have to say now that your own thread title was a lie, that I had to straighten out

so comment on the link you posted
what should happen to Trump and Cohen on the campaign finance issue?
tell us, come on nut-bag, think of something, you posted it
 
Pols get fined for these violations all the time. Does the left really think that all the pols who wrote the campaign finance rules were putting together something that would indict themselves of a crime every time a rule was broken????
Idiots. :palm:
 
Getin the ring said:
what Trump tweeted, in your own link by the way was that what Cohen pleaded guilty to was the same thing Obama was charged with.

Which by the way was not only not reported by your heroes at CNN but was settled by paying a fine

so tell us nut-bag

what do you have to say now that your own thread title was a lie, that I had to straighten out

so comment on the link you posted
what should happen to Trump and Cohen on the campaign finance issue?
tell us, come on nut-bag, think of something, you posted it
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Wrong, the difference between a campaign finance violation that is a crime and a campaign finance violation is a civil matter is whether the action was taking knowingly and willfully. Obama's campaign error was a failure to submit required paperwork till after the fact, a common error on the part of a lot of politicians, Cohen admitted he willingly and knowingly broke election finance laws

Your Trump and demogogue rationale is erroneous, got anything else?
 
Stretch said:
Pols get fined for these violations all the time. Does the left really think that all the pols who wrote the campaign finance rules were putting together something that would indict themselves of a crime every time a rule was broken????
Idiots. :palm:
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Yes they do, quite common, but not knowing nor willingly, which is exactly what Cohen admitted he did, one is a violation the other a felony
 
archives said:
Wrong, the difference between a campaign finance violation that is a crime and a campaign finance violation is a civil matter is whether the action was taking knowingly and willfully. Obama's campaign error was a failure to submit required paperwork till after the fact, a common error on the part of a lot of politicians, Cohen admitted he willingly and knowingly broke election finance laws Your Trump and demogogue rationale is erroneous, got anything else?
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That bolded part is truly important because Cohen says Trump directed him to do it...and we know that because we all heard the tape of him and Cohen discussing one of those payments.
 
They had an entire trial against John Edwards over it, I hope its a crime or that judge should be kicked off the bench.
 
Bribing someone to remain silent in order to influence an election wasn't always illegal, or at least it wasn't when Obama did it.

‘Man, the media ate me alive,” Wright told me when we met in his office at Chicago’s Kwame Nkrumah Academy. “After the media went ballistic on me, I received an e-mail offering me money not to preach at all until the November presidential election.”

“Who sent the e-mail?” I asked Wright.

“It was from one of Barack’s closest friends.”

“He offered you money?”

“Not directly,” Wright said. “He sent the offer to one of the members of the church, who sent it to me.”

“How much money did he offer you?”

“One hundred and fifty thousand dollars,” Wright said.

“Did Obama himself ever make an effort to see you?”

“Yes,” Wright said. “Barack said he wanted to meet me in secret, in a secure place. And I said, ‘You’re used to coming to my home, you’ve been here countless times, so what’s wrong with coming to my home?’ So we met in the living room of the parsonage of Trinity United Church of Christ, at South Pleasant Avenue right off 95th Street, just Barack and me. I don’t know if he had a wire on him. His security was outside somewhere.

“And one of the first things Barack said was, ‘I really wish you wouldn’t do any more public speaking until after the November election.’ He knew I had some speaking engagements lined up, and he said, ‘I wish you wouldn’t speak. It’s gonna hurt the campaign if you do that.’
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https://nypost.com/2012/05/13/the-bribe-to-silence-wright
 
Getin the ring said:
what Trump tweeted, in your own link by the way was that what Cohen pleaded guilty to was the same thing Obama was charged with.

Which by the way was not only not reported by your heroes at CNN but was settled by paying a fine

so tell us nut-bag

what do you have to say now that your own thread title was a lie, that I had to straighten out

so comment on the link you posted
what should happen to Trump and Cohen on the campaign finance issue?
tell us, come on nut-bag, think of something, you posted it
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You say the dumbest right wing shit. Obama was not charged with anything. His campaign paid a fine for inadvertent filing paperwork error that was handled by the FEC.
Trump is involved in a campaign finance violation that is a personal felony and handled in the court system. Damn, have you no shame?
 
archives said:
"Speaking under oath in court Tuesday, Michael Cohen admitted arranging payments to keep a former Playboy model and a porn star quiet during the 2016 election about alleged affairs “in coordination with and at the direction of a candidate for federal office” — Trump. He told the judge that he knew what he was doing was illegal but that he did it anyway.

All of these admissions, as the Judge presiding over the case, William H. Pauley III, said in court Tuesday, rendered Cohen’s actions a felony: he knew he was breaking the law — specifically the Federal Election Act, which regulates money in politics — and he did it anyway. If he had no knowledge he was doing anything illegal, but merely donated more money than the federally allotted limit, he potentially could have faced a less severe repercussion, such as a monetary fine from the Federal Election Commission.


“The difference between a campaign finance violation that is a crime and a campaign finance violation is a civil matter is whether the action was taking knowingly and willfully,” explained Paul S. Ryan, the Vice President of Policy & Litigation at Common Cause, the non-partisan organization that filed complaints with the Department of Justice and the Federal Election Commission earlier this year regarding these payments."

"Nevertheless, Trump tweeted Wednesday morning that the violations to which Cohen pleaded guilty weren’t really crimes"

http://time.com/5374619/donald-trump-campaign-finance-law-crimes/

Appears that we are now moving in Trump's illusionary reality beyond "truth isn't the truth" to "law ain't law," the alternative law, and after the right wing media pounds the script home, the lemmings will argue it
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So Cohen says he knew it was a crime. Did he advise Trump not to do it and Trump said do it anyway?
 
That's what he says. HIS MONEY, he can do anything he wants with it. Well, except I think his money is still earned and lost in a CORPORATION. Whoops.
 
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