Trump-Stormy Daniels settlement at heart of potential NY DA indictment didn't violate

QP! said:
there is no fucking chance he is a lawyer. None. Because if he is fuck that profession.

I have used a lot of smart lawyers in my career and seen some really dumb ones. But he would honestly be the Lauren Boebert and Marjorie Greene of his profession.


He has no clue what a campaign contribution is and what the law around them are. That people can fund their own campaigns and that still counts as a campaign contribution.
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Like most JPP Trumpers, he's just a bitter, elderly geezer with nothing to do but bitch and moan about how he's a victim.
 
ExpressLane said:
The Democrats loved JFK that had the morals of a horny dog. I voted for Trump's policies not for his personal morals. I think Trump's morals are between him and his wife.
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Hey Neighbor. There are a lot of Horny Dogs out there- both Republican and Democrat. Back during the Kennedy Years, no one, or at least, just a couple of people even knew about John F. Kennedy's short fling with Marilyn Monroe, if it ever actually existed. Mystery still surrounds the rumored affair, and a fictional Hollywood film suggesting the idea, as a concept movie, didn't help establish any proof either, although like FOX NEWS does on a regular basis, it did plant seeds in the viewers minds, that it could have been possible. The Truth is, by the time the rumor surfaced in a biography of Marilyn Monroe's life, written by a personal friend and photographer, all of the possible witnesses to the suggested affair, that could either corroborate or refute his rumors, were all dead. SO STILL, THERE IS NO ACTUAL PROOF THAT Monroe EVER DID HAVE AN AFFAIR WITH JOHN F. KENNEDY.

It was just unproven hearsay in a paperback biography without any evidence to back it up! So, it will remain a mystery in history, and still remain a RUMOR, and we will never really know one way or another. Just like the Hoffa disappearance, we'll just never know the real facts as to what actually happened to him either, as his body was never found.

The truth is, Kennedy- like Lincoln for example, was a very popular and beloved president with Republicans, Democrats, and Independents alike. Probably, the very last president we will ever have, that we can say that about ever again. And I find that to be a shame in today's totally polarized binary and political state.

But jumping forward to the Kerry campaign, when VP hopeful John Edwards was caught covering up his affair and resulting illegitimate child, in a payoff, a precedent was set about how this could legally be considered a campaign donation. I didn't agree with that, and I also did not agree that Trump should be accused of this as well, but I do not make the Campaign rules, and the precedent was well established in the John Edwards scandal and smear campaign.

I did however believed that John Edwards should have been horsewhipped, tarred and feathered, and thrown in the piss pool, for fucking up his marriage, and John Kerry's run for the president, and a life he brought into the world illegitimately, and even the Mother's life as well. Oh well, she knew he was married, so she was also responsible for that!

But then here we are now with the very same situation with Donald Trump's run in 2016. Donald clearly paid off a prostitute to shut up about an affair, that could be considered, JUST AS IN JOHN EDWARDS CASE, HUSH UP MONEY- And an illegal campaign donation. You tend to be blaming Donald's affair on the Democrats, and blaming the Democrats for prosecuting Trump, and even dragging John Kennedy's name into TRUMP's FUCK UP. You are blaming everyone except Donald Trump.

How is it that you do not even feel like you are being hypocritical about your feeling this way about it?

Because that is clearly what you look like, by taking this position now- that campaign violations and campaign laws only apply to Democrats.
 
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Cypress said:
Now you're trying to change your story.

No rank and file liberal who voted in 1996, and nobody on this board had knowledge of Clinton's affair during the 96 campaign -- and you can't scold them for voting for Clinton because Monica Lewinsky.
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Oh did I say rank and file? Now you are trying to put words in my mouth.:laugh: During his first run for president The voters were told that Clinton had sexually abused women I remember seeing him on TV denying it. But that didn't stop Democrats from voting for him.
 
ExpressLane said:
Oh did I say rank and file? Now you are trying to put words in my mouth.:laugh: During his first run for president The voters were told that Clinton had sexually abused women I remember seeing him on TV denying it. But that didn't stop Democrats from voting for him.
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There were rumors when Bill was running. Trump announced he grabbed women by the pussy and his affairs were well known. They are not the same. Trump was married 3 times and cheated on them all. He and Epstein were banging young girls.
 
Geeko Sportivo said:
Hey Neighbor. There are a lot of Horny Dogs out there- both Republican and Democrat. Back during the Kennedy Years, no one, or at least, just a couple of people even knew about John F. Kennedy's short fling with Marilyn Monroe, if it ever actually existed. Mystery still surrounds the rumored affair, and a fictional Hollywood film suggesting the idea, as a concept movie, didn't help establish any proof either, although like FOX NEWS does on a regular basis, it did plant seeds in the viewers minds, that it could have been possible. The Truth is, by the time the rumor surfaced in a biography of Marilyn Monroe's life, written by a personal friend and photographer, all of the possible witnesses to the suggested affair, that could either corroborate or refute his rumors, were all dead. SO STILL, THERE IS NO ACTUAL PROOF THAT Monroe EVER DID HAVE AN AFFAIR WITH JOHN F. KENNEDY. It was just unproven hearsay in a paperback biography! So, it will remain a mystery in history, and still remain a RUMOR, and we will never really know one way or another, just like the Hoffa disappearance, we'll just never know the real facts as to what actually happened to him either, as his body was never found.

The truth is, Kennedy- like Lincoln for example, was a very popular and beloved president with Republicans, Democrats, and Independents alike. Probably, the very last president we will ever have, that we can say that about ever again. And I find that to be a shame in today's totally polarized binary and political state.

But jumping forward to the Kerry campaign, when VP hopeful John Edwards was caught covering up his affair and resulting illegitimate child, in a payoff, a precedent was set about how this could legally be considered a campaign donation. I didn't agree with that, and I also did not agree that Trump should be accused of this as well, but I do not make the Campaign rules, and the precedent was well established in the John Edwards smear campaign. I did however believed that John Edwards should have been horsewhipped, tarred and feathered, and thrown in the piss pool, for fucking up his marriage, and John Kerry's run for the president, and a life he brought into the world illegitimately, and even the Mother's life as well. Oh well, she knew he was married, so she was also responsible for that!

But then here we are now with the very same situation with Donald Trump's run in 2016. Donald clearly paid off a prostitute to shut up about an affair, that could be considered, JUST AS IN JOHN EDWARDS CASE, HUSH UP MONEY- And an illegal campaign donation. You tend to be blaming Donald's affair on the Democrats, and blaming the Democrats for prosecuting Trump, and even dragging John Kennedy's name into TRUMP's FUCK UP. You are blaming everyone except Donald Trump.

How is it that you do not even feel like you are being hypocritical about your feeling this way about it?

Because that is clearly what you look like, by taking this position now- that campaign violations and campaign laws only apply to Democrats.
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Did you see me advocating putting Hillary jail for putting a million dollars of position research money as "legal fees" no sir I didn't. You people wanting to arrest Trump for a payment that he would have made even if he wasn't running for president is down right vindictive.(totally legal) Again I didn't vote for Trump because I thought he was a moral man . I voted for Trump because I liked his policies better than Hillary's.
 
Nordberg said:
There were rumors when Bill was running. Trump announced he grabbed women by the pussy and his affairs were well known. They are not the same. Trump was married 3 times and cheated on them all. He and Epstein were banging young girls.
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Bills affairs were well known too. It was much more than just "rumors". Paula Jones sued Bill in 1994.

How about proof Nuttyberg.
 
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ExpressLane said:
Did you see me advocating putting Hillary jail for putting a million dollars of position research money as "legal fees" no sir I didn't. You people wanting to arrest Trump for a payment that he would have made even if he wasn't running for president is down right vindictive.(totally legal) Again I didn't vote for Trump because I thought he was a moral man . I voted for Trump because I liked his policies better than Hillary's.
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I didn't want to see Trump or anyone else arrested, for giving Hush Money to someone and claiming the money was legal fees.

This case is the very least case, of all the cases pending of Donald Trump, that could be prosecuted.

But, I just want to point out the hypocrisy of how the Trump supporters are behaving in this matter.

There are more serious crimes under investigation that Donald will be having to face up to now.

Some crimes we all witnessed and heard him do before our own ears and eyes on even Fox News newsreels, that he will not be able to easily squiggle out of.

We heard him try to bribe a Georgia Government official, to get him to cheat in the 2020 election, And we watched him incite a resurrection and coup attempt to overthrow an election. And we all saw the mounds of Secret Documents collected at MARRY-A-LARDO- that he lied about to everyone including the FBI.

And I am not even sure he will be able to squiggle out of the Stormy scandal and charges of campaign violations, now that he has lied about them and tried to cover them up and start riots all over again in the process.

All any of us can do now is stay tuned.
 
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Cypress said:
John Edwards was practically drummed out of the party when news of his affair and shabby treatment of his wife became public knowledge.
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Exactly. It's one thing if you vote for someone not knowing what a sleazoid they are. It's quite another if you continue to support them after the facts come out. It's been well known about Trump -- and has been for decades -- that he is an amoral cheating bullying corrupt POS. So there was no excuse whatsoever for electing him, other than the RWers simply do not care. They are as devoid of integrity and ethics as their #MalignantMessiah is.
 
ExpressLane said:
Oh did I say rank and file? Now you are trying to put words in my mouth.:laugh: During his first run for president The voters were told that Clinton had sexually abused women I remember seeing him on TV denying it. But that didn't stop Democrats from voting for him.
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You've harangued liberals on this board for voting for Clinton because Monica Lewinsky.

No liberal on this board, and no rank and file Democrat in this country ever cast a vote for Clinton with knowledge of Monica Lewinsky. Clinton was reelected in 1996, public knowledge of the Lewinsky affair was 1998.

In stark contrast, MAGAs had full knowledge of Trump's porn star sleaze and hush payments, and they not only continued to worship Trump but also to cast votes for him
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Exactly. It's one thing if you vote for someone not knowing what a sleazoid they are. It's quite another if you continue to support them after the facts come out. It's been well known about Trump -- and has been for decades -- that he is an amoral cheating bullying corrupt POS. So there was no excuse whatsoever for electing him, other than the RWers simply do not care. They are as devoid of integrity and ethics as their #MalignantMessiah is.
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I actually think MAGAs prefer stupidity, sleaze, and immorality.

In 2016, they had a number of choices of more competent and more moral Republican contenders for the presidential nomination.

But they overwhelmingly preferred Trump, and it wasn't even really close.

Trump is the frontrunner this year, by a country mile.
 
Cypress said:
I actually think MAGAs prefer stupidity, sleaze, and immorality.

In 2016, they had a number of choices of more competent and more moral Republican contenders for the presidential nomination.

But they overwhelmingly preferred Trump, and it wasn't even really close.

Trump is the frontrunner this year, by a country mile.
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Let's hope as things unfold that that changes. It is still very early; the election isn't for a year and a half yet.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
Duerry proves he still has nothing to add to any conversation........
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Posts this.....then posts this.
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PostmodernProphet said:
not true.....I find meaning to my life whenever I can educate the mindfucked idiots who post here as lib'ruls......
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Bitter, angry geezers become the way they are because of the following reasons, either singly or in combination:
1. They're in physical pain and are such selfish, pussified males that they seek to harm others in response.
2. They're in mental anguish and are such selfish, pussified males that they seek to harm others in response.
3. They're just selfish, pussified males who claim to be victims of those they hate.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Let's hope as things unfold that that changes. It is still very early; the election isn't for a year and a half yet.
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I'm predicting violence and strong public support to shut down the violent Trumper WSEs. It won't include any JPP members because all the Trumpers here are all mouth, no action. They're purely Keyboard Warriors.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
it is sad that you continue to pretend that paying his attorney's bill somehow becomes a contribution to his own campaign......it must be the result of the same extreme case of TDS that Bragg has.....perhaps drinking bleach will help you rid yourself of that disease......
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Client Running for Office - I have this $100,000 i want to use to benefit my campaign and pay a person, but i do not want to have to disclose it
PostModernProphet - Ok well i am lawyer, so i will give that person $100,000K personally and then bill you attorney fees, and it will be all fine and legal that way.


You are the only lawyer in the US stupid enough to think the above makes it legal and fine. If that $100,000 is merely a flow thru, it is campaign contribution and against the law. That is fact and others have cited proof of that to you.

You will not comprehend the above because you are not a lawyer and are stupid but it is all fact.

Every dollar that was paid by Cohen to Stormy that Trump reimbursed him for DOES NOT qualify as 'attorney fees' and what Cohen wrote on the invoice to disguise it (attorney fees) does not change that.
 
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