Trump-Stormy Daniels settlement at heart of potential NY DA indictment didn't violate

Grokmaster said:
Post #77. Read first, comment later.

The campaign finance "crime" Cohen "confessed to" wasn't even a crime, according to the FEC, no matter what the New York SSR says, oir the insanely corrupt DOJ.


" Robert Khuzami, Attorney for the United States, Acting Under Authority Conferred by 28 U.S.C. § 515, announced that MICHAEL COHEN was sentenced today to three years in prison for tax evasion, making false statements to a federally insured bank, and campaign finance violations."
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It was a crime according to the actual law. One man who used to be on the FEC can not decide the legality of a campaign contribution.
 
Grokmaster said:

Cohen went to jail for tax evasion. The FEC already ruled that no laws were broken with the Trump/Daniels NDA and payment.
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Jarod said:
Untrue
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Oh Really? You had better tell the FEC then.;)

The Federal Election Commission has fined Hillary Clinton's 2016 campaign $8,000 and the Democratic National Committee $105,000 for obscuring their funding of the "Steele dossier," a 2016 opposition research report that sought to highlight alleged links between Donald Trump and Russia.

The bipartisan election commission also dismissed a complaint against Christopher Steele, the author of the dossier that caused a firestorm of allegations and investigations that shook the early months of Trump's presidency.

The campaign mislabeled Steele's work as "legal services" and "legal and compliance consulting" in campaign filings, the FEC concluded.
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillar...c-clears-steele-dossier-author-of-wrongdoing/
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
That is an interesting theory that is not based in any facts.
Trump paid from a business account and did not label it as a hush payment. He tried to illegally claim it was simply a legal retainer and not reimbursement for payments made to Daniels.
This is from Cohen's plea agreement.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/p...ral-court-eight-counts-including-criminal-tax
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It is not illegal for a candidate to pay for any thing he wants to with his own money. The FEC is only worried about contributors money not being accounted for correctly. Trump has the right to pay for the hush money with his business funds because he owns the business. Remember Gary Hart. A contributor paid money for him and he STILL was found not guilty.
 
ExpressLane said:
Trump-Stormy Daniels settlement at heart of potential NY DA indictment didn't violate campaign law: FEC expert

Prosecutors in the Manhattan district attorney's office won't have much of a legal leg to stand on if they indict former President Donald Trump on violating campaign finance law, according to a legal expert and former member of the Federal Election Commission (FEC).

"If the state charges are based on a supposed violation of federal campaign finance law, then the Manhattan DA is way off base," Hans von SpakovskyManhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg's office will reportedly meet with law enforcement officials to discuss logistics for some time next week regarding a potential indictment, which stems from a years-long investigation into Trump's alleged hush money scandal involving porn star Stormy Daniels.

In the final weeks of the 2016 presidential campaign, Trump's then-lawyer Michael Cohen sent $130,000 to Daniels to prevent her from disclosing her alleged 2006 affair with Trump, who has denied the affair. Trump subsequently reimbursed Cohen.

It's been widely speculated that Trump could be charged with overseeing the false recording of the reimbursements in his company's internal records as "legal expenses."

Prosecutors are also expected to charge Trump with violating campaign finance laws by arranging the payments to buy Daniels' silence weeks before the 2016 election. However, experts have questioned the legal reasoning behind such a charge.

"A settlement payment of a nuisance claim is not a federal campaign expense," said von Spakovsky, a senior fellow at the Heritage Foundation. "The state DA has no authority to prosecute a federal campaign finance violation in any event."

Such cases, he argues, are within the province of the FEC, where he served as a commissioner, or the U.S. Justice Department, explaining that both agencies have known about the facts for years but have chosen not to prosecute Trump.

"So, the federal agencies with jurisdiction did not consider it a violation," said von Spakovsky, who's been following this case for years.

In 2018, von Spakovsky wrote that the payment to Daniels seemed to be a "nuisance settlement," which celebrities often make, especially when faced with the threat of a false or salacious claim.

"Critics of the president claim this not only was a campaign expense that should have been reported but a potentially illegal loan by Cohen. But the settlement was ultimately paid out of Trump's personal funds and had nothing to do with the campaign since their alleged one-night stand occurred 10 years before the campaign," wrote von Spakovsky. "No reasonable member of a jury would consider this to be a campaign-related expense that needed to be reported, or to which any other campaign finance rules in the Federal Election Campaign Act apply."....


"The alleged one-night stand between Daniels and Trump is far more of a stretch," wrote von Spakovsky. "Daniels had no connection to the presidential campaign of any kind and the encounter — if it occurred — didn't happen during the campaign itself. In any event, even if the Daniels payment were to be considered a campaign-related expense, unlike Edwards, the nominal $130,000 payment wasn't made by Trump campaign donors but by Trump's personal attorney (not the campaign's attorney) with whom he has a long-standing business relationship. . . . Even if one might be able to reasonably construe the payment to Daniels as somehow related to the presidential campaign, there still would be no violation since candidates are allowed to spend as much of their own money as they want on their own campaigns."


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tr...ictment-didnt-violate-campaign-law-fec-expert

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If this pending arrest is hinged around this hush money payment to Stormy Daniels the case is doomed to failure. A Presidential candidate can do what they want with their own money. This case will not see Trump behind bars or saddled with a felony conviction if it hinges on this payment.
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Fox News =Fake News
 
ExpressLane said:
It is not illegal for a candidate to pay for any thing he wants to with his own money. The FEC is only worried about contributors money not being accounted for correctly. Trump has the right to pay for the hush money with his business funds because he owns the business. Remember Gary Hart. A contributor paid money for him and he STILL was found not guilty.
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What crime was Hart charged with?
 
Flash said:
What crime was Hart charged with?
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My bad it was John Edwards I get all the Democrat cheating husbands mixed up. FDR , JFK, Clinton Hart Edwards the list is long. Anyway a contributor paid $1 million on his affair and he was not guilty of FEC violations.
 
ExpressLane said:
My bad it was John Edwards I get all the Democrat cheating husbands mixed up. FDR , JFK, Clinton Hart Edwards the list is long. Anyway a contributor paid $1 million on his affair and he was not guilty of FEC violations.
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I read the book by Edward's staff member. Edwards asked him to allow his pregnant girlfriend to live with him and his wife and tell the media he was the father. You can imagine how happy the wife was with that arrangement.
 
Cypress said:
It's remarkable that a sleazebag who paid hush money to a porn star is the most popular and beloved Republican politician of the 21st century.
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its even more remarkable that all the prosecuting attorneys who've been sitting on this case didn't file any charges until 7 years later......its almost as if they had to wait until they could find someone stupid enough to carry the ball......
 
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