Trumpet
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Just what is this suppose to accomplish???????????
Trump tariffs create budget surplus
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Tbird19482
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So your calling the GAO a liar.
Althea
Althea told me...
Blind squirrel, as it were.
T. A. Gardner
Thread Killer
No. I'll call you a liar and the report by the Joint Economic Committee of the Senate Democrats cherry picked bullshit.
That's the link again that you, Tbird. You try tossing out that logical paradox and it won't fly.
In the report they cite the economy is better under Democrat Presidents. That's just as I stated in my rebuttal. By only comparing Presidents in office, they can ignore all the fucked-up stuff they do as a party to wreck the economy. Or are you denying that social-welfare spending isn't a growing and serious issue and cause of budget deficits?
Tbird19482
Verified User
Call it cherry picking all you want . do a search for yourself and you will see MOST every link that comes up will tell you the same thing.No. I'll call you a liar and the report by the Joint Economic Committee of the Senate Democrats cherry picked bullshit.
That's the link again that you, Tbird. You try tossing out that logical paradox and it won't fly.
In the report they cite the economy is better under Democrat Presidents. That's just as I stated in my rebuttal. By only comparing Presidents in office, they can ignore all the fucked-up stuff they do as a party to wreck the economy. Or are you denying that social-welfare spending isn't a growing and serious issue and cause of budget deficits?
The Republicans run this country into recessions and a Dem President has to come in and get us out of it . Fact is Bush II ran us into a deep recession and Obama got us out and handed Trump a recovered economy that was in good shape and Trump put us back into another recession that Biden had to get us out of that one and now Trump is trying to do it again.
Remember GOOGLE is your friend.
T. A. Gardner
Thread Killer
Presidents alone do not control the federal budget nor the economy.
Correlation =/= Causation.
LurchAddams
There Can be Only One!
Stopped clock..
Tbird19482
Verified User
They are the person that proposes the budget in the first place and they are the ones that sign it into law so they do control the budget.
And Putting tariffs on as high as Trump is talking can have a lot to do with what the economy does. and right now economists are saying IF he finally stops all his flip flopping and does put his high tariffs on it could drive us into a deep recession or even a depression.
So again Presidents DO have some control over the Budget and economy.
Godwin says it is not. So...you are wrong.
They are well documented.
LBJ: The President Who Marked His Territory
Here, we're choosing to remember Lyndon B. Johnson not by the many political wheels he set into motion, but by the stuff he kept by his side—and close to his heart.www.mentalfloss.com
Why The Kennedys Couldn't Stand Lyndon B. Johnson - Grunge
During the first two years of Kennedy's administration, the Kennedy family were concerned about Lyndon B. Johnson in the Oval Office.www.grunge.com
Three New Revelations About LBJ
The author of an about-to-be-published biography of Lyndon Johnson shares some of what he has learnedwww.theatlantic.com
Did LBJ Say 'I'll Have Those N*****s Voting Democratic for 200 Years'?
A viral quote attributed to LBJ since the 1990s features the 36th president uttering the N-word and stating a cynical motive for his civil rights stance.www.snopes.com
The most vulgar American president ever? It sure as #$@!%* isn't Donald Trump
How repulsive was Lyndon B. Johnson? Contact with him put one at risk of encountering a profane spectacle of burping, farting and crotch-scratchingnationalpost.com
'Lady Bird' Details Lyndon Johnson's Dark Side
Lyndon B. Johnson was moody, depressive, lecherous and lusty. He was crass and ill-mannered. He adored his wife, but he wasn't always nice to her. This is a portrait of a classic 1950s wife who loved…www.oklahoman.com
They are NOT well documented.
He was crude. But he never came close to being the abomination Trump is every day of his life.
LBJ DID NOT GET US INTO THE VIETNAM WAR...and if you do not know that...or do not have the ethical wherewithal to acknowledge it...go discuss comic books or animated movies.
Yes, he did. See the above links for starters.
As for the Great Society:
The Forgotten Failures of the Great Society
Amity Shlaes has written a powerful book. It is the most interesting and substantive account of Lyndon Johnson and Richard Nixon’s “war on poverty” to date — and just in time. In Great Society: A New History, she notes that “just as the 1960s forgot the failures of the 1930s, we today forget the...manhattan.institute
The Failure of LBJ's Great Society and What It Means for the 21st Century
In 1964, President Lyndon Johnson announced his plans for what he called "the Great Society," a sweeping set of programs…reason.com
How Lyndon Johnson Failed to Make a 'Great Society'
The State clearly knew best what "these" people really needed for them to have some minimum form of a "decent life."www.newsweek.com
The Failure of Lyndon Johnson’s Great Society
Massive failure may be an understatement.freedomandprosperity.org
The climax of that failure came with the infamous Watts riots.
The Great Society efforts were in the interests of helping the poorest among us...and easing racial discrimination. Trump does his best to screw the poorest among us...and foments all sorts of societal problems.
If you want the latter...fine. You are free to effort for it. I prefer the former.
LBJ was no saint. That does not make Trump any less of an abomination.
He is destroying our Republic...and being aided by people like you.
Too bad that.
Trump is a disgusting abomination. You should be embarrassed and ashamed for supporting him in any way.
Tom Homan Accuses Biden Admin Of 'Lying' About Properly Vetting After MS-13 Kingpin's Capture
Border czar Tom Homan accused former President Joe Biden's administration of lying about properly vetting illegal immigrants.dailycaller.com
Tom Homan ‘convinced’ US will see major terror attack because of Biden’s lax border policies: ‘It’s coming’
“This scares the hell out of me and I’ve been doing this for 40 years. It should have scared the hell out of every American what the Biden administration did.”nypost.com
MAGA celebrates arrest of top MS-13 leader: "Tom Homan is a superstar"
The suspect is one of the top three MS-13 gang leaders in the U.S., according to Attorney General Pam Bondi.
ICE captures alleged MS-3 kingpin, with associate also in custody
WASHINGTON, DC - JULY 10: Trump administration "border czar" Tom Homan talks with reporters outside the White House on July 10, 2025 in Washington, DC. Homan answered a range of questions related to border security and immigration enforcement actions. (Photo by Win McNamee/Getty Images)thenationaldesk.com
Biden more than doubled the population of criminal aliens in the US in just four years. He let in an unknown number of likely terrorists along with the criminals. That is purely an attempted destruction of our society.
Nor am I. That would be nice, but Trump is a "bulldozer" personality. We just have to put up with that for the next three and a half years. Also, in politics, always remember, nice guys finish last.
Let's keep this up.
It is fun.
Appears humor is wasted on MAGA’s
Hey, Jerkoff.
Thanks for amusing me with your triteness.
Sorry to hear you are dying. But...if it frees up some oxygen, maybe it is for the greater good.
LurchAddams
There Can be Only One!
LOL - poor TA. If the facts don't match his predetermined narrative that his trumptard party isn't a total dumpster fire, he just shakes the etch-a-sketch and makes up new ones!
Cause Trump puts the bullshit out there, as he himself has endorsed, negative attention is better than no attention, why did you think he puts shit everyday on social media platforms? Starts holiday greetings with opens like “Happy Father's Day to all, including the Radical Left, RINOs and other Losers of the world?”Media cover Trump 92% negatively yet have little impact. Here’s why
Media cover Trump 92% negatively yet have little impact. Here’s why
President Donald Trump has received overwhelmingly negative coverage from the legacy news media. But he's storming ahead with great support.www.washingtonexaminer.com
(A) study, conducted by Professor Thomas E. Patterson of Harvard’s Kennedy School and the Schorenstein Center on Media, Politics and Public Policy found 80% of the media’s coverage of President Trump during the first 100 days of his administration was negative. Not only that, but news about President Trump and his administration consumed fully 41% of all news coverage, three times as much as previous administrations and coverage of presidents. Trump has complained of being targeted by the news media and Patterson wrote, “The sheer level of negative coverage gives weight to Trump’s contention, one shared by his core constituency, that the media are hell bent on destroying his presidency.”
TV Hits Trump With 85% Negative News vs. 78% Positive Press for Harris
Nearly Seven in Ten Americans Are Now Hearing at Least Some Negative News About President Trump
Nearly Seven in Ten Americans Are Now Hearing at Least Some Negative News About President Trump
Polling report on perceptions of President Trump, the administration's recent actions, and how Americans would like Democrats in Congress to respond.navigatorresearch.org
TV news ‘most lopsided’ ever: Trump 85% negative, Harris 78% positive
TV news ‘most lopsided’ ever: Trump 85% negative, Harris 78% positive - Washington Examiner
The bias is likely not surprising, though the percentages are.
ABC, NBC and CBS slap Trump with 92% negative coverage as 100th day of second term approaches, study finds
ABC, NBC and CBS slap Trump with 92% negative coverage as 100th day of second term approaches, study finds
The Media Research Center analyzed ABC’s "World News Tonight," "NBC Nightly News" and "CBS Evening News" and found largely negative coverage.www.foxnews.com
The MSM HATES Trump. That's obvious. They have hated him from the moment he came down the escalator in 2016 to take the election win. He gets lots of coverage--and it's almost entirely negative--because the MSM thinks that bombarding the public with negative messaging will turn them against him. It obviously hasn't worked, and may even be backfiring, but they haven't let up one iota.
Trump purposely courts the negative coverage so individuals as yourself will swallow the media martyr bullshit, it has been of his schtick since he chased the media in NYC
QP!
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A budget surplus is a meaningless stat if you spend more than you gain.For the first time since Trump's first term, the federal government has a budget surplus due to tariffs taken in. You're not likely to hear about that on any MSM news channel other than maybe FOX.
U.S. posts surprise $27 billion budget surplus in June, boosted by tariffs
U.S. Posts First Monthly Budget Surplus Since 2017 Amid Tariff Windfall
U.S. Posts First Monthly Budget Surplus Since 2017 Amid Tariff Windfall - EconoTimes
Just a week after President Donald Trump signed the Big Beautiful Bill into law, the U.S. Treasury surprised markets with a rare budget surplus for June 2025. The federal government reported a $27 billion surplusthe first...www.econotimes.com
US government reports historic $258 billion surplus boosted by tariff revenues
US government reports historic $258 billion surplus boosted by tariff revenues
The U.S. government has delivered its first monthly surplus in its 2025 fiscal year, the second-largest monthly surplus in history.
If you have a budget surplus of 15% at home but raise spending 200% then you are losing, FULL STOP.
Tariffs are a tax on American businesses and consumers and they will do what taxes do which is raise lots of money from the middle class and below for the government.
Something magats demanded no prior government do but because Trump calls them tariffs suddenly magats celebrate the tax increase.
You are stupid. There are no tariffs in place. The one he claimed, with the Brits, is essentially unchanged. The revenue you dishonest Trumpys talk about does not exist. If you knew anything about American economics, you would understand the Repubs crank up the debt and the Dems fix it. If you are not ignorant about American economics, you are lying.No. I'll call you a liar and the report by the Joint Economic Committee of the Senate Democrats cherry picked bullshit.
That's the link again that you, Tbird. You try tossing out that logical paradox and it won't fly.
In the report they cite the economy is better under Democrat Presidents. That's just as I stated in my rebuttal. By only comparing Presidents in office, they can ignore all the fucked-up stuff they do as a party to wreck the economy. Or are you denying that social-welfare spending isn't a growing and serious issue and cause of budget deficits?
anonymoose
Classical Liberal
Saved.