Trump tariffs ruled illegal by U.S. court

Yakuda said:
Yes. How pays this supposed "tariff tax"?
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You pay that " supposed tariff tax " with money that is how.
Now who pays the tariff tax , The exporting companies / countries pass the tariff on to the end consumer so it is the end consumer that ends up paying more, they may not have to pay all of it but what ever the retailers pass on they do.
 
Cypress said:
Taxation authority rests with Congress, and that is crystal clear.

I'm enjoying seeing all the right-wing posters who spent years claiming they were devout defenders of the Constitution proving they had just been bullshitting us the whole time.
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Another bullshit thread brought to you by the feckless bitter leftist fools here.
 
Cypress said:

Trump Tariffs Ruled Illegal by Federal Judicial Panel​

The U.S. Court of International Trade said the president had overstepped his authority in imposing his “reciprocal” tariffs globally, as well as levies on Canada and Mexico.

A panel of federal judges on Wednesday blocked President Trump from imposing some of his steepest tariffs on China and other U.S. trading partners, finding that federal law did not grant him “unbounded authority” to tax imports from nearly every country around the world.

The ruling, by the U.S. Court of International Trade, delivered an early yet significant setback to Mr. Trump, undercutting his primary leverage as he looks to pressure other nations into striking trade deals more beneficial to the United States.

Before Mr. Trump took office, no president had sought to invoke the International Emergency Economic Powers Act, a 1977 law, to impose tariffs on other nations. The law, which primarily concerns trade embargoes and sanctions, does not even mention tariffs.

But Mr. Trump adopted a novel interpretation of its powers as he announced, and then suspended, high levies on scores of countries in April. He also used the law to impose tariffs on products from Canada and Mexico in return for what he said was their role in sending fentanyl to the United States.

On Wednesday, the Court of International Trade, the primary federal legal body overseeing such matters, found that Mr. Trump’s tariffs “exceed any authority granted” to the president by the emergency powers law. Ruling in separate cases brought by states and businesses, a bipartisan panel of three judges essentially declared many, but not all, of Mr. Trump’s tariffs to have been issued illegally.

It was not clear precisely when and how the tariff collections would grind to a halt. The ruling gave the executive branch up to 10 days to complete the bureaucratic process of ending them. The Trump administration immediately filed its plans to appeal in the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit.



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And that was reversed by another judge.... That was fast.
 
Walt said:
The courts have the power to interpret tax laws. Congress has the power to make tax laws. trump has the power to execute tax laws. he does not have the power to create, and judge tax laws.
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They don't have the power to make up new laws or interpret existing ones in ways that bear no resemblance to the written law itself. Further, they cannot impose judgements outside the scope of their authority. Yet, today, the courts, particularly lowly district judges are doing that every time Trump does something.
 
Circuit Court judges cannot be mucking around with things that affect United States foreign policy.
That is definitely out of their wheelhouse of job descriptions.
If they want to do that, they cannot, as per our laws.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Which part of Congress legislated that the President could impose tariffs don't you understand?
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The law in question does not actually mention tariffs at all, and of course all laws can be judged by courts. We have gone from this is the absolute power of trump to if the courts say it is OK, it is a power of trump.
 
Walt said:
The law in question does not actually mention tariffs at all, and of course all laws can be judged by courts. We have gone from this is the absolute power of trump to if the courts say it is OK, it is a power of trump.
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WTF? Could you maybe rewrite that one? I know there's a moronic statement hidden inside that trainwreck, I'm just not sure how bad it is. Help!

Laws aren’t judged by courts, unless you’re some oath-dodging, agenda-pushing judge who considers themselves above the system. Courts uphold laws, not invent them, not weigh their morality or validity like some philosophical circus. Congress crafts the laws; courts enforce them. That’s the deal. So, what’s the rest of your point? Or are you just tossing word salad to see what sticks?
 
T. A. Gardner said:
I bet you're wrong. The appeals court already put the lower court on hold, and that was on an emergency basis which never bodes well for the lower court judgement holding up.
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Nope. Appeals courts typically preserve the status quo while the appeal is litigated when that will result in the least injury to affected parties. The government made that happen here by promising to refund tariff payments if it loses.
 
Nordberg said:
The judgment continues. The resolution is likely near. I see Trump with no chance to win it.
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