Trumps plan to dismantle the Deep State

Trump would like to replace this phony deep state with the Trump state. There is no deep state that we vote on. There are very powerful wealthy people pulling the strings, and they do not pull them for you. They are in the background making rules, paying for think tanks and societies that push the plutocracy that we are powerless to stop. They are giving huge grants to colleges and deciding what will be taught. there is nothing benign in how Koch and the others use their money. We feel like we are losing power as a people, but we really do not know who to.
 
Yakuda said:
Look at this everybody yet ANOTHER I hate trump thread by a sufferer of TDS. If only I gave a shit about how.muchbtheybare suffering I might start a telethon but I can only hope its terminal.
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It's solely a matter of how full of shit trump is. He had 4 years to do whatever he wanted, but chose to do nothing. All the while you make excuses for his failures.
 
Nordberg said:
Trump would like to replace this phony deep state with the Trump state. There is no deep state that we vote on. There are very powerful wealthy people pulling the strings, and they do not pull them for you. They are in the background making rules, paying for think tanks and societies that push the plutocracy that we are powerless to stop. They are giving huge grants to colleges and deciding what will be taught. there is nothing benign in how Koch and the others use their money. We feel like we are losing power as a people, but we really do not know who to.
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You misspelled 'Biden' again.
 
zymurgy said:
I hate Trump - but the fact is that bullshit Russian Collusion hoax made it very hard for him to even attempt to clean house
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LMAO.

How so? He and his Klan refused to comply with the Mueller investigation, and there is nothing about his report that is a hoax.
 
zymurgy said:
I already replied how that is not really true - the open investigation made it pretty much impossible to act . you shitstains were throwing a temper tantrum when he tried to use his constitutionally granted powers to clean house in the DOJ - and now you are gas lighting us that it didn't happen
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Oh. I see.

The 'Deep State' is everyone that was investigating trump.


How quaint.
 
Nordberg said:
Trump would like to replace this phony deep state with the Trump state. There is no deep state that we vote on. There are very powerful wealthy people pulling the strings, and they do not pull them for you. They are in the background making rules, paying for think tanks and societies that push the plutocracy that we are powerless to stop. They are giving huge grants to colleges and deciding what will be taught. there is nothing benign in how Koch and the others use their money. We feel like we are losing power as a people, but we really do not know who to.
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Agree.

Which is why trump did nothing for 4 years. The so called 'Deep State' benefits him
 
If it were up to me I'd go a different route, one that can be done by executive order and has more than the desired effect.

I'd write up an executive order requiring every federal agency to submit an accurate page count / word count of ALL their current regulations and rules within say 90 days to the executive. If their count comes up wrong, 10% of their budget is withheld until they get it right. If they don't submit on time, 20% gets withheld until they do it right.

Once I have those numbers in hand, I then put out an executive order that requires EVERY agency in the executive branch to remove by word count and page number 10% of their current regulations / rules. This doesn't preclude them making new rules and regulations, nor does it preclude them doing everything they are now. What it does do is require them to do it with 10% less verbiage.

All agencies are given to September 30th of the current year to comply. Those agencies that don't meet this figure and deadline have a percentage of their next year budget withheld until they do comply. Then I repeat this in the next year.

Every federal agency would be so focused on getting rid of rules and regulations, in whole or part, that they'd have nothing else topping their agenda. Three years in they'd have 20% less regulations and rules by word and page count than when they started.

Then in that year, I'd demand a review of personnel and order a RIF getting rid of those who no longer have stuff to do because there's 20% less stuff to do. I'd particularly target lawyers and low-level executives who are the ones responsible for writing those rules to begin with. Then cut their staff. If you chop of the head, the body will die. That's how you force bureaucracies into being more efficient and doing only the minimum they're supposed to be doing.

Best of all, the Left would go apeshit nuts with rage as their favored bureaucracies are crippled then castrated, and there's nothing they could do to stop it. In 8 years, most of the deep state would be gone.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
If it were up to me I'd go a different route, one that can be done by executive order and has more than the desired effect.

I'd write up an executive order requiring every federal agency to submit an accurate page count / word count of ALL their current regulations and rules within say 90 days to the executive. If their count comes up wrong, 10% of their budget is withheld until they get it right. If they don't submit on time, 20% gets withheld until they do it right.

Once I have those numbers in hand, I then put out an executive order that requires EVERY agency in the executive branch to remove by word count and page number 10% of their current regulations / rules. This doesn't preclude them making new rules and regulations, nor does it preclude them doing everything they are now. What it does do is require them to do it with 10% less verbiage.

All agencies are given to September 30th of the current year to comply. Those agencies that don't meet this figure and deadline have a percentage of their next year budget withheld until they do comply. Then I repeat this in the next year.

Every federal agency would be so focused on getting rid of rules and regulations, in whole or part, that they'd have nothing else topping their agenda. Three years in they'd have 20% less regulations and rules by word and page count than when they started.

Then in that year, I'd demand a review of personnel and order a RIF getting rid of those who no longer have stuff to do because there's 20% less stuff to do. I'd particularly target lawyers and low-level executives who are the ones responsible for writing those rules to begin with. Then cut their staff. If you chop of the head, the body will die. That's how you force bureaucracies into being more efficient and doing only the minimum they're supposed to be doing.

Best of all, the Left would go apeshit nuts with rage as their favored bureaucracies are crippled then castrated, and there's nothing they could do to stop it. In 8 years, most of the deep state would be gone.
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The left is apeshit nuts with rage now.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
If it were up to me I'd go a different route, one that can be done by executive order and has more than the desired effect.

I'd write up an executive order requiring every federal agency to submit an accurate page count / word count of ALL their current regulations and rules within say 90 days to the executive. If their count comes up wrong, 10% of their budget is withheld until they get it right. If they don't submit on time, 20% gets withheld until they do it right.

Once I have those numbers in hand, I then put out an executive order that requires EVERY agency in the executive branch to remove by word count and page number 10% of their current regulations / rules. This doesn't preclude them making new rules and regulations, nor does it preclude them doing everything they are now. What it does do is require them to do it with 10% less verbiage.

All agencies are given to September 30th of the current year to comply. Those agencies that don't meet this figure and deadline have a percentage of their next year budget withheld until they do comply. Then I repeat this in the next year.

Every federal agency would be so focused on getting rid of rules and regulations, in whole or part, that they'd have nothing else topping their agenda. Three years in they'd have 20% less regulations and rules by word and page count than when they started.

Then in that year, I'd demand a review of personnel and order a RIF getting rid of those who no longer have stuff to do because there's 20% less stuff to do. I'd particularly target lawyers and low-level executives who are the ones responsible for writing those rules to begin with. Then cut their staff. If you chop of the head, the body will die. That's how you force bureaucracies into being more efficient and doing only the minimum they're supposed to be doing.

Best of all, the Left would go apeshit nuts with rage as their favored bureaucracies are crippled then castrated, and there's nothing they could do to stop it. In 8 years, most of the deep state would be gone.
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favorite bureaucracies? Who has such a thing? Did you sleep through the banking crisis we are in due to gutted regulations making banks unable to respond in an emergency? Again, regulations are all you have to fight the wealthy and corporations. You are being played by the top 1 percent, and cannot understand it.
 
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