Trumps tax cuts were a mammoth fraud

Gonzomin said:
No it is not. The long-time plan was to crank up the debt so they could justify ending all programs that help the poor. See our terrible debt, we have to eliminate food stamps, Social Security, welfare and other programs because we cannot afford them. That is another reason they jack up the military budget. This is no accident,but the plan for the last 50 years. Every Red president has done it. They cranking up the debt is the program.
It has not failed but succeeded in their long term plans. It started with Reagan.
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Lol. Damn, you've busted is. Be afraid, be VERY afraid.
 
Gonzomin said:
No it is not. The long-time plan was to crank up the debt so they could justify ending all programs that help the poor. See our terrible debt, we have to eliminate food stamps, Social Security, welfare and other programs because we cannot afford them. That is another reason they jack up the military budget. This is no accident,but the plan for the last 50 years. Every Red president has done it. They cranking up the debt is the program.
It has not failed but succeeded in their long term plans. It started with Reagan.
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We have been hearing about that plan for years but Republicans continue to increase social spending just like the Democrats.

And cutting Social Security would not reduce the debt because it does not come from the general fund
 
Flash said:
We have been hearing about that plan for years but Republicans continue to increase social spending just like the Democrats.

And cutting Social Security would not reduce the debt because it does not come from the general fund
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Yep. Have heard the same claim since I started following politics regarding Republicans. What I unfortunately have come to realize is both party’s love spending they just have different priorities.
 
cawacko said:
Yep. Have heard the same claim since I started following politics regarding Republicans. What I unfortunately have come to realize is both party’s love spending they just have different priorities.
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The new spending bill increases the debt by $400 billion over ten years.

I saw an interesting debate in the House that reverses the old Dem v. Rep battle.

The Democrats introduced a bill to increase the SALT (state & local taxes) income tax deduction from $10,000 to $20,000. The 2017 tax bill reduced the deduction to $10,000.

The Republican argument against the bill was that almost all benefits will go to the top 1%.

So, the Dems want to increase tax deductions which will reduce revenue while the Reps want to lower the deduction and which results in more revenue because it benefits the wealthy.
 
Flash said:
The new spending bill increases the debt by $400 billion over ten years.

I saw an interesting debate in the House that reverses the old Dem v. Rep battle.

The Democrats introduced a bill to increase the SALT (state & local taxes) income tax deduction from $10,000 to $20,000. The 2017 tax bill reduced the deduction to $10,000.

The Republican argument against the bill was that almost all benefits will go to the top 1%.

So, the Dems want to increase tax deductions which will reduce revenue while the Reps want to lower the deduction and which results in more revenue because it benefits the wealthy.
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Surely you can't be speaking of revenue at a time of massive deficits and debt.
 
Trump made the government bigger.

There are currently more government bureaucrats now than when Trump got elected.

Shhh.

Don't tell the Trump fans.

They don't want to know that.
 
"Business investment in the United States, far from rising, has plunged this year. The huge reduction in corporate income tax rates, from 35% to 21%, has not had the irresistible incentive effect that it was supposed to.

Job creation has chugged along at a steady pace over the past two years, with no discernible help from the tax changes. In the past two years, the U.S. economy has added fewer jobs than it did in the final two years of Obama’s presidency. In employment terms, the tax measure has been a nothing burger."

Where's the beef?

There sure has been a lot of pork.
 
"The 2017 tax package was a mammoth fraud that put the GOP’s political priorities and ideological dogma ahead of the welfare of our children and grandchildren. That’s the nature of Trump’s presidency: Even his proudest achievements are cause for regret."

Totally irresponsible.
 
floridafan said:
Decades from now, many Americans will have to consult history books to gain an appreciation of the lowest point of Donald Trump’s presidency: his impeachment. But they will be able to feel the effects of his highest point: the 2017 tax bill, which he signed into law two years ago Sunday. That’s because they will still be paying for it.
Trump and his party took great pride in enacting the biggest tax overhaul in a generation. “It’s going to be a tremendous thing for the American people".the president exulted. But like most things he says, the claim was unfounded. The package turned out to be an extravagant mirage.


https://www.chicagotribune.com/colu...0191220-pp6eha6ktbhyxpwiagcrzuvqmm-story.html.
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It has already gone down in history as the most devastating blunder to our National Debt, and most self-serving selfish and plutocratic politically partial power/money grab in the history of American Politics.
 
Adolf_Twitler said:
It has already gone down in history as the most devastating blunder to our National Debt, and most self-serving selfish and plutocratic politically partial power/money grab in the history of American Politics.
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But his supporters who got fucked by the tax cut,love it,because their Orange Messiah,told them it "Made America great again"
Live by the cliche,die by the cliche
 
Flash said:
We have been hearing about that plan for years but Republicans continue to increase social spending just like the Democrats.

And cutting Social Security would not reduce the debt because it does not come from the general fund
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It is still on their list. Ryan said it all clearly. He was pushed out after they adopted his libertarian and crazy talking points.
 
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MASON said:
But his supporters who got fucked by the tax cut,love it,because their Orange Messiah,told them it "Made America great again"
Live by the cliche,die by the cliche
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Yes, and Bloomberg who got an extra several Billions of Dollars gift over the last two years is now spending his windfall tax relief in DEFEATING DONALD ASS TRUMP!

SEE HOW THAT DOUBLE EDGE SWORD SLICES BOTH WAYS! LOL!

MONEY TALKS AND BULLSHIT WALKS! BLAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

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Adolf_Twitler said:
Yes, and Bloomberg who got an extra several Billions of Dollars gift over the last two years is now spending his windfall tax relief in DEFEATING DONALD ASS TRUMP!

SEE HOW THAT DOUBLE EDGE SWORD SLICES BOTH WAYS! LOL!

MONEY TALKS AND BULLSHIT WALKS! BLAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

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These idiot Trump supporters would believe Haliburten didn't make a dime in Iraq
 
MASON said:
These idiot Trump supporters would believe Haliburten didn't make a dime in Iraq
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Or DICKHEAD CHANEY- or Blackwater- SAY, Where did that 250 billion dollars of totally contracted by an unfettered contract military logistics spending go- that has never been found and it's disappearance has never been explained as of yet?

The military says they never saw it, and have no idea where the money went- BUT THEY DIDN'T GET ANY BENEFIT FROM THE MONEY LOST!

The people deserve answers. It was our money.

What a money grab by the Corrupt contractors and Vice President of the United States! Let's face it, the Republicans are crooks!
 
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Adolf_Twitler said:
Or DICKHEAD CHANEY- or Blackwater- SAY, Where did that 250 billion dollars of totally contracted by an unfettered contract military logistics spending go- that has never been found and it's disappearance has never been explained as of yet?

The military says they never saw it, and have no idea where the money went- BUT THEY DIDN'T GET ANY BENEFIT FROM THE MONEY LOST!

The people deserve answers. It was our money.

What a money grab by the Corrupt contractors and Vice President of the United States! Let's face it, the Republicans are crooks!
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Were,Bonnie and Clyde,John Dillenger,Jessie James Republicans?lol
 
floridafan said:
Surely you can't be speaking of revenue at a time of massive deficits and debt.
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I wasn't speaking of it--it was a debate in the House. Republicans wanted to keep the SALT deduction at $10,000 and Democrats wanted to raise it to $20,000. Big switch from their usual positions.
 
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