Unarmed on Campus... Call the cops, they will protect you... NOT

Lucius Cornelius Sulla said:
Yeah yeah, let me dig it up.

This is on Lanza. Not the only one, but it's the shortest.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...newtown-school-because-it-was-an-easy-target/

As for the Columbine kids:
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...004/04/the_depressive_and_the_psychopath.html
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(1) The Lanza stuff is law enforcement theory, not anything Lanza "specifically stated" like you claimed.

(2) The Columbine article shows that the shooting was a secondary thing and that the real plan was a massive bombing. I don't see how the fact that no one is armed at the school (which was not actually the case) was a factor at all.
 
Dungheap said:
(1) The Lanza stuff is law enforcement theory, not anything Lanza "specifically stated" like you claimed.
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They have his documents, so I only have their work to go on.

(2) The Columbine article shows that the shooting was a secondary thing and that the real plan was a massive bombing. I don't see how the fact that no one is armed at the school (which was not actually the case) was a factor at all.
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Which they chose because they could attack it with impunity.
 
Lucius Cornelius Sulla said:
Ok then, so you'd also find doing nothing an acceptable course? Because I'd be fine with nothing.
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No. I think the myopic focus on school violence (or even mass shooting incidents) is stupid.


Lucius Cornelius Sulla said:
Yes.
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Forgive me, but it's about time for you to show me and not just tell me.


Lucius Cornelius Sulla said:
Well, that is unknown. It might have a significant effect of stopping a mass shooting in its infancy. It may have no effect. I'm not a person who says it WILL do anything. I do think it won't HARM anything, and that is reason enough to try it. Because in the event of such a happening, you can either have a gun or call someone with one, who is farther away than yourself.
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Right. So it might do nothing. And it might actually do harm where guns are now potentially available where they ohterwise might not be.


Lucius Cornelius Sulla said:
Then I don't know what you'd suggest.
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That's OK. The first thing I'd suggest is not doing what you suggest. Other than that, anything I might suggest ain't gonna happen.
 
Superfreak said:
What about the UCF student? He made bombs as well. So did the cowards at Columbine. So did Holmes.
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I'm not talking about what they have at home but about the specific weapon used during the event. Lanza, Loughner, Holmes, Cho, etc. all carried out their massacres at the site with guns. Same thing with Poplawski here.
 
Lucius Cornelius Sulla said:
They have his documents, so I only have their work to go on.
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Well, you shouldn't say that he specifically said something he didn't specifically say and instead say that one law enforcement theory is that he chose the school becuase it was an easy target.

Lucius Cornelius Sulla said:
Which they chose because they could attack it with impunity.
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See that's the part that's missing. You're making a leap there that is entirely unwarranted. I mean, they were psychopathic high school kids. What the fcuk else would they target?
 
Dungheap said:
See that's the part that's missing. You're making a leap there that is entirely unwarranted. I mean, they were psychopathic high school kids. What the fcuk else would they target?
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A mall would be a great choice if you wanted the largest casualties figures. Lots of people in a crowded space, schrapnel from all the broken tile and glass, etc.
 
Well, I'm off to my school. I'm having coffee with one of carrying teachers and then have an AMVETS meeting. So I'll be back to discuss this....later tonight.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
I didn't say that. I'm trying to discern why people feel better about armed cops vs. armed teachers.
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Carrying a gun is part of law enforcement, because of the nature of the job & the situations they encounter on a day-to-day basis.

Carrying a gun is not part of what is needed to be a teacher, and what they do on a day-to-day basis.
 
Thing1 said:
Carrying a gun is part of law enforcement, because of the nature of the job & the situations they encounter on a day-to-day basis.

Carrying a gun is not part of what is needed to be a teacher, and what they do on a day-to-day basis.
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so you're whole issue is that teachers should teach and cops should carry guns? that's it? you have no other issue about guns in schools at all?
 
SmarterthanYou said:
so you're whole issue is that teachers should teach and cops should carry guns? that's it? you have no other issue about guns in schools at all?
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I was addressing your specific question.

As far as guns in schools, I have a LOT of other issues - many of which I have explained on this very thread.
 
Thing1 said:
I was addressing your specific question.

As far as guns in schools, I have a LOT of other issues - many of which I have explained on this very thread.
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cops have been known to forget guns in bathrooms, changing rooms, and had their weapons taken from them as well, so I see no difference. can you explain it?
 
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