Unconscious? You Know You Wanted It

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Another unconscious woman who was asking for it. Otherwise known as: "bitches ain't shit" Ken Buck's new campaign slogan. You're a woman voting Republican? You hate yourself. I don't care. From knowing some of you, I imagine you have good reasons. But it's your insistence on projecting that self-hate onto other woman that becomes my business.

"If you thought that high-heels gaffe was the height of Republican Senate candidate Ken Buck's offensiveness, think again. The Colorado Independent is bringing to light a 2005 rape case that the Weld County District Attorney declined to prosecute, in part because the alleged victim had a prior sexual relationship with the accused attacker. Today, the newspaper released the transcript of a taped phone call the accuser had with the alleged attacker in which he acknowledges that he raped her. It goes a little something like this:


Victim: "You do realize that … it's rape."

Suspect: "Yeah, I do."

Victim: "Like in a number of different ways, because I didn't want to do it and because I was intoxicated and because I was afraid."

Suspect: "Yes I do. I know."


The Independent explains, "In establishing whether there were grounds to arrest the suspect, Greeley police had the victim phone the suspect from the police station. That call was recorded and entered into evidence." The recording was made without his knowledge, so it can't be used in court -- but it was presumably part of the evidence Buck considered before declining to prosecute.

It was also presumably information he was privy to before his meeting with the alleged victim, the transcript of which the Independent published yesterday. He explained to the accuser that the case wouldn't fly because of her prior sexual relationship with the alleged attacker and the fact that she had invited him over that evening. It's worth reading the entire transcript, but this particular exchange stands out:


Buck: Because when you look at what happened earlier in the night, all the circumstances, based on his statements and some of your statements, indicate that you invited him to come to your apartment ... that you told him how to get in ... . It would appear to me and it appears to others that you invited him over to have sex with him. Whether that you, at that time, were conscious enough to say yes or no ... ?

Alleged Victim: So you're telling me that previous sexual relations is enough to provide consent, and you're telling me that because of me calling him and because of previous sexual relations and because I invited him up and told him how to get in, that invited him up for sex ...

Buck: I'm telling you that's what the circumstances suggest, to people, including myself, who have looked at it. Although, you never said the word yes, but the appearance is of consent.

Alleged Victim: Even though, he also stated that I told him no.


It's also worth noting that Buck, who believes abortion should be banned even in cases of incest and rape, implies that she had an ulterior motive in pursuing the case: "There are a lot of things that I have a knowledge of, that I would assume (name of possible suspect redacted) knows about and that they have to do with, perhaps, your motives for (unintelligible) and that is part of what our calculation has been in this. ... You have, you have had HIS baby, and you had an abortion." (Never mind that she says they only considered an abortion but ended up miscarrying.)

Some might ask why this is relevant to Buck's current Senate bid. Kjersten Forseth of ProgressNow Colorado put it perfectly in an interview with the Independent: "This shows us how he views women and what he thinks their role is. It shows us that even when a woman is the victim of a rape he will not advocate for her," she continues. "Do we want him making policy for the entire United States?"


full story: http://www.salon.com/life/broadsheet/2010/10/12/ken_buck
 
The left is bottom feeding on a case that happened 5 years ago

Another braindead comment. You think his views have undergone a radical change in the past 5 years?

Can we please get a higher quality of conservative poster on the board than what we're seeing? Damo?
 
A) You apparently don't know Darla too well
B) What a complete & utterly braindead thing to say

LOL I know!

I bet there is no one on this board who argues and even fights with their "own side" as much as me, and it's almost always over women's rights.
 
are you saying that one misogynistic asshole equates to the entire republican party?

Conservative policies harm women nearly across the board.

To be clear, there are elected democrats who are sexist. There are many, MANY, democratic male voters who are sexist. However, liberal policies are pro-woman and conservative policies are anti-woman.

Is it a coincidence that a man who wants the power, who demands the power, to force women to give birth to their rapists babies also believes that women generally consent to rape?(with probable exceptions for "nice" married women or virgins who are raped by a stranger with a knife in an alley. Of course, it helps if they are also murdered thus "proving" they put up a hell of a fight)

Of course it isn't.
 
LOL I know!

I bet there is no one on this board who argues and even fights with their "own side" as much as me, and it's almost always over women's rights.
Until I see you skewering Bill Clinton over his rapes or defending Palin once in a my judgment of you will stand. :)
 
Bill clinton never raped anyone.

He had consentual sex.


I'm not surprized you dont know the differance.
 
what is the point of this thread? other than a darla/onceler love fest....

I dunno...it's a political candidate, with an incident from his past that reveals certain views, and it's a political message board?

I suppose that all has something to do w/ it. Not a real shocker to see you join in w/ the braindeads, though. Typical Yurt hypocrisy....
 
I dunno...it's a political candidate, with an incident from his past that reveals certain views, and it's a political message board?

I suppose that all has something to do w/ it. Not a real shocker to see you join in w/ the braindeads, though. Typical Yurt hypocrisy....

too funny, you whine when others call out hypocrisy, but have no problem frequently doing so yourself...i wonder what that is called

so his views are that there might have been implied consent....i don't get the big deal....what i am missing? i didn't quite understand the entire situation as it appeared a lot was cut from the OP...
 
How did i know that was coming?

Well, you were one step ahead of me then. I didn't see it coming. I don't really get it?

I am more and more convinced, totally seriously, that a good number of regulars here are drunks. I would guess drugs, but I don't think so.
 
too funny, you whine when others call out hypocrisy, but have no problem frequently doing so yourself...i wonder what that is called

so his views are that there might have been implied consent....i don't get the big deal....what i am missing? i didn't quite understand the entire situation as it appeared a lot was cut from the OP...

I don't frequently do it. I do it with you a lot, because you are easily the biggest hypocrite on the board (as is evidenced by your whining defensiveness above).

Did you read the circumstances? Do you think they qualify as "implied consent"?
 
Well, there's no surprise over Yurt's desperate attempts to dismiss this story and turn it into something about his fixation on Onceler - after all, it has already been shown that Yurt is a woman-hater back on his "rape" thread. Hint; it was actually a triple murder.
 
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