US IGNORANCE Spawns Russian-Chinese Military Alliance

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Say goodbye to US military superiority.

Just a bit more American IGNORANCE and Pakistan, with its nuclear arsenal, will join this alliance. Oil producing nations are already looking to Russia and China for protection against America .. and we sure better think twice before we attack Iran which has already formed alliances with this new front.

US Hegemony Spawns Russian-Chinese Military Alliance
http://www.antiwar.com/roberts/?articleid=11422

This week the Russian and Chinese militaries are conducting a joint military exercise involving large numbers of troops and combat vehicles. The former Soviet Republics of Tajikistan, Kyrgkyzstan, and Kazakstan are participating. Other countries appear ready to join the military alliance.

This new potent military alliance is a real world response to neoconservative delusions about US hegemony. Neocons believe that the US is supreme in the world and can dictate its course. The neoconservative idiots have actually written papers, read by Russians and Chinese, about why the US must use its military superiority to assert hegemony over Russia and China.

Cynics believe that the neocons are just shills, like Bush and Cheney, for the military-security complex and are paid to restart the cold war for the sake of the profits of the armaments industry. But the fact is that the neocons actually believe their delusions about American hegemony.

Russia and China have now witnessed enough of the Bush administration's unprovoked aggression in the world to take neocon intentions seriously. As the US has proven that it cannot occupy the Iraqi city of Baghdad despite 5 years of efforts, it most certainly cannot occupy Russia or China. That means the conflict toward which the neocons are driving will be a nuclear conflict.

In an attempt to gain the advantage in a nuclear conflict, the neocons are positioning US anti-ballistic missiles on Soviet borders in Poland and the Czech Republic. This is an idiotic provocation as the Russians can eliminate anti-ballistic missiles with cruise missiles. Neocons are people who desire war, but know nothing about it. Thus, the US failures in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Reagan and Gorbachev ended the cold war. However, US administrations after Reagan's have broken the agreements and understandings. The US gratuitously brought NATO and anti-ballistic missiles to Russia's borders. The Bush regime has initiated a propaganda war against the Russian government of Vladimir Putin.

These are gratuitous acts of aggression. Both the Russian and Chinese governments are trying to devote resources to their economic development, not to their militaries. Yet, both are being forced by America's aggressive posture to revamp their militaries.

Americans need to understand what the neocon Bush regime cannot: a nuclear exchange between the US, Russia, and China would establish the hegemony of the cockroach.

In a mere 6.5 years the Bush regime has destroyed the world's good will toward the US. Today, America's influence in the world is limited to its payments of tens of millions of dollars to bribed heads of foreign governments, such as Egypt's and Pakistan's. The Bush regime even thinks that as it has bought and paid for Musharraf, he will stand aside and permit Bush to make air strikes inside Pakistan. Is Bush blind to the danger that he will cause an Islamic revolution within Pakistan that will depose the US puppet and present the Middle East with an Islamic state armed with nuclear weapons?

Considering the instabilities and dangers that abound, the aggressive posture of the Bush regime goes far beyond recklessness. The Bush regime is the most irresponsibly aggressive regime the world has seen since Hitler's.
 
Unless they own 40% of the military power, like the US does, leaving only 20% for the rest of the 130 nations of the world, I think it unlikely that this will stop the US from being the elite military of the world.
 
I remember reading about this new alliance for the first time about two years ago I think. Though, it did not involve the militaries training together yet.

"The neoconservative idiots have actually written papers, read by Russians and Chinese, about why the US must use its military superiority to assert hegemony over Russia and China."


That's the money quote. Their stupidity truly is unfathomable. I think it's mixed with arrogance and that's what makes it particularly, dangerously, stupid.
 
Say goodbye to US military superiority.

Just a bit more American IGNORANCE and Pakistan, with its nuclear arsenal, will join this alliance. Oil producing nations are already looking to Russia and China for protection against America .. and we sure better think twice before we attack Iran which has already formed alliances with this new front.

US Hegemony Spawns Russian-Chinese Military Alliance
http://www.antiwar.com/roberts/?articleid=11422


yeah. so you'd think we would rethink our "most favored nation" idiocy with china.

Our leadership is gunning for the destruction of our nation, both parties. They, as individuals, have secured their own futures by selling out the rest of us.
 
Unless they own 40% of the military power, like the US does, leaving only 20% for the rest of the 130 nations of the world, I think it unlikely that this will stop the US from being the elite military of the world.

Just out of curiosity, can I see the work on your math?
 
Just out of curiosity, can I see the work on your math?
The work. The US owns 40% of the military on the planet, or spends 40% of the money spent on all military accross the planet, whichever way you want to say it (pre-war numbers). Therefore, in order to match or beat that you would need at least equal (another 40%) 40% plus 40% is 80%, since all of the military would be 100% you subtract the 80% and get 20% left over...

Therefore, if China and Russia were able to even match the US by banding together, 80% of the world's military would be in between those three nations and only 20% would be in the rest of the world.
 
America's days as the top superpower are definitely numbered. We have not used the position in a responsible way.

Bush/Cheney and the neocons really accelerated things, though. One of the few silver linings of the Iraq debacle is that it put a kabash on the whole neocon agenda (which went much further than Iraq), and marginalized them as a political force.
 
The work. The US owns 40% of the military on the planet, or spends 40% of the money spent on all military accross the planet, whichever way you want to say it (pre-war numbers). Therefore, in order to match or beat that you would need at least equal (another 40%) 40% plus 40% is 80%, since all of the military would be 100% you subtract the 80% and get 20% left over...

Therefore, if China and Russia were able to even match the US by banding together, 80% of the world's military would be in between those three nations and only 20% would be in the rest of the world.

Unless the market were to expand. If China and Russia increase their military spending by 30 % and nobody else decreases, then you jsut have a bigger market, no?

Anyway, our sole superpower status is winding down, these are the tea leaves here.
 
Why? You don't understand basic math. You consider discussion of the imminent failure of ss to be some kind of partisan alarmism.

Well, if the failure is "imminent" then you will be able to gloat very soon.

Let me define imminent for you, ok jackass:

"likely to occur at any moment; impending"
 
Unless they own 40% of the military power, like the US does, leaving only 20% for the rest of the 130 nations of the world, I think it unlikely that this will stop the US from being the elite military of the world.

Umm we could not stop the Chinese in our two previous lost wars.....
Then you throw in the Russians as well....
 
Unless the market were to expand. If China and Russia increase their military spending by 30 % and nobody else decreases, then you jsut have a bigger market, no?

Anyway, our sole superpower status is winding down, these are the tea leaves here.
Our "sole superpower" was going to end sometime. It doesn't change that we are a superpower. Often I have read articles that were surprised that something much like this hasn't happened already. It isn't like I can't understand why they might do it. However, attempting to just match the spending pretty much spent the USSR right into the crapper.
 
Umm we could not stop the Chinese in our two previous lost wars.....
Then you throw in the Russians as well....
We didn't try. At that time we had myriad weapons at our disposal, but the Presidents wisely decided that war with China wasn't what we needed.
 
Unless the market were to expand. If China and Russia increase their military spending by 30 % and nobody else decreases, then you jsut have a bigger market, no?

Anyway, our sole superpower status is winding down, these are the tea leaves here.


Overall, the "Golden Age" of America is winding down. It will take a while but the direction is clear. And having someone like bush and his enablers to hold the pedal to the floor in that direction does not help a bit.
 
Our "sole superpower" was going to end sometime. It doesn't change that we are a superpower. Often I have read articles that were surprised that something much like this hasn't happened already. It isn't like I can't understand why they might do it. However, attempting to just match the spending pretty much spent the USSR right into the crapper.

Yes, and this time, it could put into the crapper. They must be laughing themselves silly about what we are spending in Iraq.

I'm not an alarmist about it, I agree, it had to end someday. The problem is, to me, I don't see a world where an unchecked China and Russia run amok, as a good thing. So let's hope we don't completely destroy this country.
 
It was definitely "going to end sometime," but it certainly didn't have to make the quantum leap that we have over the past 5 years or so.

We stretched our military, probably hurt future recruiting, pissed on some of our allies, discredited the U.N., lost a huge amount of credibility in the world community, bolstered anti-U.S. sentiment for a generation & basically acted like a rogue, outlaw nation.

When we do slip & lose our status as the world's superpower, we'll be able to point to these years as the time when we really started blowing it...
 
It was definitely "going to end sometime," but it certainly didn't have to make the quantum leap that we have over the past 5 years or so.

We stretched our military, probably hurt future recruiting, pissed on some of our allies, discredited the U.N., lost a huge amount of credibility in the world community, bolstered anti-U.S. sentiment for a generation & basically acted like a rogue, outlaw nation.

When we do slip & lose our status as the world's superpower, we'll be able to point to these years as the time when we really started blowing it...
I agree. And still believe that actually following the Declaration Clause of the Constitution would have stopped much of this in its tracks. I do not believe that the Senate would have taken that onto themselves.
 
Overall, the "Golden Age" of America is winding down. It will take a while but the direction is clear. And having someone like bush and his enablers to hold the pedal to the floor in that direction does not help a bit.


And citizens like you who can't wait till it happens don't help either. It's not inevitable actually. We could reverse course today if we wanted.
 
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