US military forces 'fully prepared' to cross into Ukraine

You want me to criticize the invasion?
I have. I understand the predicate, but the invasion has had terrible effects on civilians.
I've said many times i'd be fine with annexing Donbas. but not this invasion west of the Dnieper

Your turn to critique NATO expansion into eastern Europe. I bet you wont

Yes, you soft-pedal the wrongness of the invasion...without naming Putin...then spend the rest your time blaming the US, NATO, the West and anything but Putin or Mother Russia, Dookie.

Why do you love Russia so much? Why do you hate the US so much?

Is this sour grapes for you leaving Russia for America but being so homesick that you'd sell out your new country?
 
absolute trash.
why after all these years of Putin making that same speech ( he started the "Russian Imperium" noise around 2002) did he suddenly decide to invade?

Because he saw Biden come in -after being unable to negotiate with Trump because of the Russian Hoax-
and knew Biden Inc has a bunch of neocons like Nuland and Rice and Sullivan in power.
So obviously Ukraine was going to get it's NATO status, but in the meantime Ukraine was getting lots of offensive weapons. Not to mention the basic rejection of his redlines

Meaning his window to deal with Ukraine was closing, neutrality was out of the question since the Maidan
and he did what he had to do to neutralize NATO expansion into Ukraine

Finland already had a robust defense, and Sweden isn't even on the radar.
Those becoming NATO arent a big deal to Russia like Ukraine is

Ukraine is strategicially important to Russia, it's east is Russian by all measures
so it was now or never -unless he could see some diplomatic progress ( the Lavrov letters) -
and they were blown off by Biden

Whether or not NATO even existed, Putin would still think Ukraine was a fake country and legitimately belongs to Russia.

That is why he holds out the 1654 Pereyaslava Agreement as justification for his imperialist ambitions.

The agreement of Pereyaslava predates the formation of NATO by 298 years. It was only the brief interlude of the Soviets that the Kremlin even nominally recognized the distinctiveness of Ukranian identity. For most of the last three centuries, Russian nationalists believe they are entitled to hegemony over Ukraine and Holy Kiev.
 
Whether or not NATO even existed, Putin would still think Ukraine was a fake country and legitimately belongs to Russia.

That is why he holds out the 1654 Pereyaslava Agreement as justification for his imperialist ambitions.

The agreement of Pereyaslava predates the formation of NATO by 298 years. It was only the brief interlude of the Soviets that the Kremlin even nominally recognized the distinctiveness of Ukranian identity. For most of the last three centuries, Russian nationalists believe they are entitled to hegemony over Ukraine and Holy Kiev.
Thanks for the history lesson
 
I am aware that the success of the NATO alliance is deeply humiliating to Vlad, but his designs on Ukraine are primarily based on 300 years of history, and this is open knowledge.
already answered. not interested in another history lesson
 
Spain To Deploy Fighter Jets To Bulgaria, Romania To Bolster Air Defenses
Spain said it would deploy 14 fighter jets to Bulgaria and Romania as NATO continues to bolster its eastern flank in the face of Russia’s aggressive actions in the region.
The country previously sent 12 fighter jets to eastern NATO members Bulgaria, Lithuania, and Estonia following Russia's invasion of Ukraine in late February.
https://www.rferl.org/a/spain-fighter-jets-bulgaria-romania/32096207.html

Saber rattling yet with no REAL indication of Russian mobilization towards those areas.

But let's gin up the back door draft again, because the nano-second the word "draft" is uttered all hell breaks loose in this country.
 
And exactly where is Putin going to deploy nukes?

As it is, everyone in Russia and surrounding Ukraine countries are holding their butts over the possibility of one of those nuke power plants getting hit with artillery.

And who is stupid enough to irradiate their backyard?

Think it through, folks.
 
And exactly where is Putin going to deploy nukes?

As it is, everyone in Russia and surrounding Ukraine countries are holding their butts over the possibility of one of those nuke power plants getting hit with artillery.

And who is stupid enough to irradiate their backyard?

Think it through, folks.

That China is permitting the Russians to take out Ukrainian energy, thus unleashing massive suffering, is concerning about what else night happen.
 
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
And exactly where is Putin going to deploy nukes?

As it is, everyone in Russia and surrounding Ukraine countries are holding their butts over the possibility of one of those nuke power plants getting hit with artillery.

And who is stupid enough to irradiate their backyard?

Think it through, folks.




That China is permitting the Russians to take out Ukrainian energy, thus unleashing massive suffering, is concerning about what else night happen.

Since when has China suddenly become the major determiner in this situation? And how does your insertion of this notion change one iota of what I previously wrote. Seriously, I want to understand your train of thought here.
 
Since when has China suddenly become the major determiner in this situation? And how does your insertion of this notion change one iota of what I previously wrote. Seriously, I want to understand your train of thought here.

Since the invasion of Ukraine, and especially it going badly. The Russians now cant lift a finger if China objects, and the Chinese are very clear on what is OK under Empire Rules and what is not.

Would the Chinese approve tactical nukes in Ukraine even though that would result in a near instant complete break between the Empire and the West?

I dont know that the answer is no.
 
And exactly where is Putin going to deploy nukes?

As it is, everyone in Russia and surrounding Ukraine countries are holding their butts over the possibility of one of those nuke power plants getting hit with artillery.

And who is stupid enough to irradiate their backyard?

Think it through, folks.
who ever thought we'd have the 101st Airborne 3 miles from Ukraines border "ready to go"

The Army's 101st Airborne Division, which boasts the "Screaming Eagles" moniker, has been deployed to Europe for the first time since World War II , practicing with live tank and artillery rounds not far from the Black Sea, across which Russia has taken territory from Ukraine, including Crimea, at a forward operating site on NATO's eastern flank, according to CBS News .

Brig. Gen. John Lubas, the division's deputy commander, stressed this is "not a training deployment" but rather a "combat deployment" from which his forces "need to be ready to fight tonight, depending on how the situation escalates across the border."
Armed forces can't be driven by events, one has to wargame them out, or strategize different scenarios.

the fact we are in this close (3 miles) to a "combat ready" role in Ukraine tells me we aren't thinking it out
(unless one thinks Ukraine is worth US troops on their soil in a war against Russia) in terms of negative consequences possibilities

Meaning we are being driven by events, or mindlessly clinging to "must defend every inch of Ukraine"
By that mindset we aren't allowing Putin an off ramp either.

Shit happens -we aren't even looking to step around the pooh
 
Fantastic. Now that Brandon has depleted the oil reserves, that's when we start talking about entering a war with Russia?
 
Since when has China suddenly become the major determiner in this situation? And how does your insertion of this notion change one iota of what I previously wrote. Seriously, I want to understand your train of thought here.



Since the invasion of Ukraine, and especially it going badly. The Russians now cant lift a finger if China objects, and the Chinese are very clear on what is OK under Empire Rules and what is not.

Would the Chinese approve tactical nukes in Ukraine even though that would result in a near instant complete break between the Empire and the West?

I dont know that the answer is no.

Well, since it's the European/Western sanctions that have been putting the squeeze on Russia, and the Russian & Chinese have ZERO tolerance on either violating their borders ... the Chinese would definitely raise an eyebrow at even a dirty bomb usage, because escalation is NOT in their best interests. Anything else they just nod their heads and give lip service.
 
The current crisis is far worse than the Cuban missile crisis, in part because during the Cuban missile crisis both Kennedy and Khrushchev were willing to discuss a way of walking back the confrontation. There is no such option on the table here," Cynthia Hooper, a history professor and Russia expert at the College of the Holy Cross, told Insider.

Russia has the nuclear arms to back up its threats against Ukraine, and experts see a disconnect between the US and Russian leaders that may contribute to a dire miscalculation — in stark contrast to the Cuban missile crisis.

"Today, the two presidents are not talking to each other," she said.

"President Biden has made clear his views that Vladimir Putin is a war criminal. And Vladimir Putin has responded that these remarks are unforgivable," Gottemoeller said. "So the communications between the two top leaders have been very much on ice, and I think for good reason in many ways. But I do think communicating at a high level at some point during this crisis will be necessary."

with the war going badly for Russia, there are growing concerns that Putin could make good on these threats. The Biden administration has privately warned Russia there would be "catastrophic consequences" were Russia to use of a nuclear weapon in Ukraine.

President Joe Biden recently suggested that the world is now the closest its been to nuclear "Armageddon" since the Cuban missile crisis. His comment triggered criticism, but experts tend to agree with Biden's assessment.

"This crisis is more dangerous than the Cuban missile crisis," Andy Weber, a former assistant secretary of defense for nuclear, chemical and biological programs, recently told Politico. "President Biden's reported reference to 'Armageddon' is not an exaggeration," Weber added.
https://www.businessinsider.com/ukr...rse-than-cuban-missile-crisis-experts-2022-10
 
Your judgement and claims about the events around the Russo-Ukraninan war can't be trusted and lack credibility.

It isn't me that contriving to make posts out of context, bugler. I see that you've deleted the qualifier, you tub-thumping war-monger.
 
It isn't me that contriving to make posts out of context, bugler. I see that you've deleted the qualifier, you tub-thumping war-monger.
Ms. Moon, why do you live in the West when you hate it so much? Did your husband force you to leave your home country?
 
It isn't me that contriving to make posts out of context, bugler. I see that you've deleted the qualifier, you tub-thumping war-monger.

That was the title of your thread of last May, that the Ukrainian army was leaderless, unsupported, deserting. Why write that thread title if you didn't believe it?
 
Ms. Moon, why do you live in the West when you hate it so much? Did your husband force you to leave your home country?

I don't even think she is particularly pro Muslim or pro Palestinian. She just irrationally latches onto anything that fuels her hatred of NATO, EU, United States.

I have numerous posts about white Christian Russian discrimination against Muslim minorities in the Russian Federation, and have been met with complete radio silence from Moon.
 
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