Virginia Giuffre's tell all memoir to be published on Oct 21st, detailing her time with Epstein and his "many friends"

[Walt]

鬼百合 has been informed multiple times that the tens of thousands of files in the "Epstein File" hoax are child porn videos, and the source is Pam Bondi, the authoritative source on the matter:

Bondi who accepted illegal contributions stolen from trump's supposed charity as a bribe, and helped Gaetz cover up a child abuse network?

 

[IBDaMann]

They really are not, but I will humor you here.

I don't need you to humor me. You are the one who strangely believes that financial crimes cannot occur.

How do you alter financial records so they still match a checksum that was made public at the time?

You have the software overwrite the new checksum with the checksum that was made public at the time, giving the false appearance that nothing has changed. This could give the perpetrator enough lead time to disappear in the Bahamas.

If there is fake evidence being introduced into thousands of trials, if Epstein was framed for crimes he did not commit, etc. is very important.

I didn't say any of this. You just tried to completely derail this conversation. Why?

I think the evidence is real,

Why do you think this? Why should any rational adult believe as you do?

and Epstein went down for a crime he committed,

OK, and ...?

It is the "clever word play" that @Damocles said was alright.

@Damocles isn't really participating in this thread. He's giving out some complimentary warnings and we've discussed procedure, but he's letting everyone else address the topic.

So, why are you not demanding the release of Epstein's grand jury testimony? That contains all the answers to all your questions and contains all the information you are demanding "be released." So ... why are you not demanding it?

ANSWER: You're not demanding it specifically because it reveals Bill Clinton's and Barack Obama's escapades on Epstein's island, and that Trump is completely exonerated, and you know all this, because if you had thought differently, you would be demanding the grand jury testimony. So instead, you hammer away at demanding a hoax somehow be "realeased" and when it isn't, you scream "cover-up!" Did I miss anything?

 

[Walt]

You have the software overwrite the new checksum with the checksum that was made public at the time, giving the false appearance that nothing has changed.

A common trick with a checksum is to publish it in a newspaper. Almost always it is registered with the SEC, and a bonding agency. Most bonding agencies have ways of permanently storing checksums.

So your software would have to track down every newspaper ever sold on that day, and all the other records of that newspaper. It would have to convince the SEC and the bonding company to change the checksum.

I reassure you that a lot of effort has been put into making this unbeatable.

This could give the perpetrator enough lead time to disappear in the Bahamas.

The Bahamas has an extradition treaty with the USA. You want to alter records from a while ago, they are not going to release the funds for a long while. Certainly not going to let you take the money to The Bahamas.

I know you think you are clever, but you really are not. Everything you are thinking about has been done before, and now cannot be done again.

So, why are you not demanding the release of Epstein's grand jury testimony?

Why bother? Bondi has access to all the evidence, and to the witness statements before the grand jury. Grand jury testimony would be nice, but it is focused on just getting enough evidence for an indictment. What we want is the evidence that was not necessary for the grand jury. We want the evidence of others involved.

You're not demanding it specifically because it reveals Bill Clinton's and Barack Obama's escapades on Epstein's island

There is no evidence that Obama ever met Epstein. Their timelines do not overlap. Your accusation is stupid and without merit.

Why would they include anything about Clinton (or trump) in the grand jury testimony? It does not help the cases against Epstein or Maxwell. It draws attention away from the people the prosecutor wants to indict, which is very bad for the prosecutor.

If you can get the grand jury testimony, that is great, but it is not that important. I would rather the whole evidence.

But if the evidence used in the grand jury is a hoax, as you claim, then I would support going after the hoaxers. Bondi should release the evidence, so we can all check it out.

 

[Into the Night]

The hypocrisy is your sock @IBDaMann not being banned.

You can't blame your sock problem on anybody else, Sybil.

 

[Into the Night]

In most financial records, there is no place to put a video.

Financial records are not a video, Wally.

With the paper files, there is no way to put a video on paper.

What files, Wally?

There are going to be things on the computer, and in the other records that are not videos.

What computer, Wally?

Obviously, the child porn videos should not be released to the public,

What child porn videos, Wally?

but they need to be reviewed by someone who does not have an extreme conflict of interest. Bondi should not be the only person to review them.

Epstein seems like the type who would have a lot of child porn videos, but someone (without a conflict of interest) has to review them to make sure they are not evidence of a crime beyond their simple possession.

What child porn videos, Wally?

 

[Into the Night]

On Monday, you gave him a warning to stop. He continued on and on... Now 5 days later on Friday, he is saying



There is a point that it no longer is subjective. I think we all know that IBD is just flagrantly breaking the rules.

What rule has he broken, Wally?

 

[Into the Night]

According to IBD, she has a binder of child porn videos on pieces of paper.

Videos are not a binder, Wally. What child porn videos?

 

[Into the Night]

It is just a proven fact that trump was involved.

Involved in what, Wally?

What we may never be able to do is prove he was criminally involved beyond a reasonable doubt. There is a chance he was just unbelievably incompetent, which would mean not criminally involved, but also no way he should be president.

I just keep coming back to all the effort trump put into plausible deniability. To me that is a strong indicator that trump is guilty... But I have to admit it is not beyond a reasonable doubt.

What crime, Wally?

 

[Into the Night]

According to IBD, she has a binder of child porn videos on pieces of paper.

Misquoting again, Wally?

 

[Into the Night]

Very funny. Being a nitpicking person.

The rule 12b serves as a warning to everyone.

It is not a warning, Random.

 

[Into the Night]

You're being a nitpicking person. You knew what he meant. Everyone who flirts with 12b gets a warning.

12b is not a warning, Random.

 

[AProudLefty]

Misquoting again, Wally?

Nope. Your sock @IBDaMann would accuse this lady of wanting child porn.

 

[Into the Night]

You are now dead. Enjoy

Planning on murder now?

 

[Into the Night]

Nope. Your sock @IBDaMann would accuse this lady of wanting child porn.

He never did, Random. You cannot blame your sock problem problem on anybody else.

 

[AProudLefty]

12b is not a warning, Random.

Damocles warned. Are you saying Damocles is a random person or he said a random thing?

 

[AProudLefty]

He never did, Random. You cannot blame your sock problem problem on anybody else.

Learn what "would" means.

 

[Into the Night]

So you are saying that saying she "demands" child pornography is OK, but saying she "needs" it is a step too far.

We all know that you are allowing the worst violations of 12b. This is just sick.

What violation, Wally?

I am not seeing the point to a political forum where if I post tax policy that differs from trump, I can be accused of the worst sexual crimes against my children, or have threats against them to kill and rape them...

Get off the drugs, Wally.

Yes, I remember your excuse the rape was just incidental to the killing, so it was OK to threaten to kill my children.

What rape? What killing? Get off your drugs, Wally.

 

[Into the Night]

You called her a sick-o. That's personal. That's a no-no according to the rule.

Calling someone a sick-o does not violate any rule, Random.

Again, she did not demand that child porn be released. She demanded that files with information be released.

What child porn? What files?

 

[Into the Night]

Damocles warned. Are you saying Damocles is a random person or he said a random thing?

You can't blame your randomness on Damocles, Random.

 

[Into the Night]

Learn what "would" means.

Word games won't work, Random.