Voters are demanding that McConnell hold a real trial, with witnesses

Nordberg said:
It is an accusation that has to be shown rooted in facts and malfeasance. that is a lot more. It was proven on TV for your watching pleasure. Impeachment is more like a grand jury. It found plenty of evidence of crimes.
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If only Nancy could get a ‘fair’ trial in the Senate she could prove it lol.
 
Nordberg said:
It is an accusation that has to be shown rooted in facts and malfeasance. that is a lot more. It was proven on TV for your watching pleasure. Impeachment is more like a grand jury. It found plenty of evidence of crimes.
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nope. it's based on hearsay, and the disguntlement of snooty career bureaucrats.
 
AssHatZombie said:
nope. it's based on hearsay, and the disguntlement of snooty career bureaucrats.
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Don't do that to yourself. There were witnesses testifying to Trump's disgusting and crooked ways. There were highly respected people who appeared. Their testimony was above reproach. That in spite of Trump's absolute stonewalling of all documentation and ordering his people to refuse subpoenas. That in itself is an obstruction on a grand scale.
The fact is Trump prevented those involved from appearing. That is what a guilty man with much to hide would do. If he were innocent, he would say talk to my people they will,l tell you I did nothing. But Trump did the opposite. He showed that sunlight was his enemy.
C'mon rightys admit it. You know trump is a crook and you want him to get away with it.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Which of course is their only game plan here. Cry out loud and sob about "Why don't they hurry up and get it done? Pelosi has nothing or she'd send over the indictme.... er, Articles," etc. Meanwhile they stall about witnesses, subpoenas, and testimony to try to make it look like the (D)s are the ones holding things up.

The OP is correct: If McConnell is forced to allow witnesses, the SS Trumptanic is going down for good.
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Well, Nancy is holding things up lol.

That piece of paper Democrats were wrapping themselves in last week says she is to appoint House managers to physically present the articles before the Senate.

And this business about ‘needing more witnesses’ means House Democrats didn’t finish their business before they voted. It’s easy to get the idea they were going to try and sneak ‘impeachment’ across the finish line so they could get impeaching the Bad Orange Man out of the way [the obvious main point to this obscene charade] and then somehow cajole Republicans into allowing them to complete the investigation in the Senate.

And when Republicans refuse to play along with their little scheme they whine about how ‘unfair’ republicans are and they won’t be allowed to try Trump ‘fairly’ when Nancy and a few of them are some of the most corrupt and cheating bastards to ever set foot in the House of Representatives.

I think that about covers it.
 
floridafan said:
On CNN Tuesday, Rep. John Yarmuth (D-KY) broke down the key political pressures pulling Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) in both directions on how to conduct the Senate impeachment trial.

“The president is saying the House process was unfair, and now implying why should Democrats expect a fair process in the Senate. what do you say to that?” asked anchor Kate Bolduan.

“Well, first of all, he’s totally lying about the process,” said Yarmuth. “He was invited to have lawyers present and call witnesses, he chose not to. He did not participate in the House. To say it was not fair because he decided not to make it fair is ridiculous. I think the argument is the same with whatever happens in the Senate.”

“I think Mitch McConnell’s in a real bind here, regardless of what President Trump says,” continued Yarmuth. “I think Mitch is going to face severe criticism, and as the polling has shown, not just from Democrats, if he makes short shrift of this whole proceeding. And yet if he calls witnesses, then the president’s case is going to be severely damaged. I think he really makes the calculation right now that at least he’s safer to have, basically, a non-trial trial, than to call witnesses who would undermine the president’s arguments.
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The Senate is going to use the SAME RULES AS THE CLINTON IMPEACHMENT TRIAL = COULD NOT BE ANY MORE FAIR, ASSHOLES.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
You are a good minion, your reward shall be great!

Maybe you should read what you just said here. Did it ever occur to you that the hearings in the House were "one-sided" because TRE45ON refused to cooperate, send his own attorneys and witnesses (if he has any), and participate like an adult?

Your nonsense proves that, once again, there is no stupid level too low for the Trumpanzees. You will defend the most treasonous and unethical and immoral behaviors in a vain attempt to defend your Mango Messiah.
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Ah the classic switch. Your libtard traitorous demonRATs could have compelled testimony through a simple court challenge just as has been done in every administration before. They chose to impeach instead. No time to wait the courts out they said. Now Pelosi is holding it up lol. Sorry that you are too stupid to see the conflict here. Also it is illegal to lie to a judge to get a warrant. Illegal for the fbi to get involved in the influencing of an election. It is also unconstitutional to use impeachment for political advantage. Comey just admitted to 17 counts of it.
So when you flap your cake hole that trump is the bad one just know that the FACTS say it was your side. The circumstantial evidence says it was for political gain to damage a hated president. From comey approving the known bs dossier to strock telling lisa paige they had a secret weapon should trump win to Pelosi speed rushing the impeachment and now sandbagging the articles.

They have zero evidence. The transcript is there to read there was no quid pro quo. No bribery. No need for second hand opinions from anyone. I dont need the whistleblower to tell me what I just read.. I'm capable unlike you of comprehending and giving context based on other information.

Also to you tardos, President Trump doesn't need dirt on Biden as he admitted it on live tv, sarcastically bragging that he got the prosecutor fired. And remember they are investigating election tampering from 2016. The presidents duty no less. Sad for sure.
 
Nordberg said:
It is an accusation that has to be shown rooted in facts and malfeasance. that is a lot more. It was proven on TV for your watching pleasure. Impeachment is more like a grand jury. It found plenty of evidence of crimes.
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Wow did we watch the same hearing? I saw every witness give opinions, beliefs, or heresy. I saw those same folks asked if they knew of a single crime committed by the president, say no. I saw three bias professors impugning trumps character. I saw witnesses being told to not answer a defense question. I saw your demonrats change the charges from qpq,to bribery, and finally obstruction lol. Precisely because they couldn't prove the first charges lol.

Keep.drinking the koolaid

4 more years to thank you and Pelosi for.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
No matter how hard you try to deny or excuse it, IMPOTUS is IMPEACHED!!!!

Best Xmas gift so far. :laugh:
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Sad day for america is more like it. But like your traitors have already said years ago we can't win unless we impeach him. Thankfully he's gonna win reelection. My joy will come in your four year torture as trump reverses king Obama's doings and secures the courts for decades. Imagine the golden god with no care about reelection. Stocking up on the pop corn.
 
floridafan said:
On CNN Tuesday, Rep. John Yarmuth (D-KY) broke down the key political pressures pulling Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) in both directions on how to conduct the Senate impeachment trial.

“The president is saying the House process was unfair, and now implying why should Democrats expect a fair process in the Senate. what do you say to that?” asked anchor Kate Bolduan.

“Well, first of all, he’s totally lying about the process,” said Yarmuth. “He was invited to have lawyers present and call witnesses, he chose not to. He did not participate in the House. To say it was not fair because he decided not to make it fair is ridiculous. I think the argument is the same with whatever happens in the Senate.”

“I think Mitch McConnell’s in a real bind here, regardless of what President Trump says,” continued Yarmuth. “I think Mitch is going to face severe criticism, and as the polling has shown, not just from Democrats, if he makes short shrift of this whole proceeding. And yet if he calls witnesses, then the president’s case is going to be severely damaged. I think he really makes the calculation right now that at least he’s safer to have, basically, a non-trial trial, than to call witnesses who would undermine the president’s arguments.
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He cant fuck breath...
 
floridafan said:
On CNN Tuesday, Rep. John Yarmuth (D-KY) broke down the key political pressures pulling Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) in both directions on how to conduct the Senate impeachment trial.

“The president is saying the House process was unfair, and now implying why should Democrats expect a fair process in the Senate. what do you say to that?” asked anchor Kate Bolduan.

“Well, first of all, he’s totally lying about the process,” said Yarmuth. “He was invited to have lawyers present and call witnesses, he chose not to. He did not participate in the House. To say it was not fair because he decided not to make it fair is ridiculous. I think the argument is the same with whatever happens in the Senate.”

“I think Mitch McConnell’s in a real bind here, regardless of what President Trump says,” continued Yarmuth. “I think Mitch is going to face severe criticism, and as the polling has shown, not just from Democrats, if he makes short shrift of this whole proceeding. And yet if he calls witnesses, then the president’s case is going to be severely damaged. I think he really makes the calculation right now that at least he’s safer to have, basically, a non-trial trial, than to call witnesses who would undermine the president’s arguments.
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:popcorn:
 
Nordberg said:
That is so stupid. Terrified Trump is throwing every roadblock he can to prevent the people from finding out what he has done in the dark. He ordered every person he had to ignore subpoenas to testify and prevented them from providing the paperwork that was requested. That is what the guilty do. If he had nothing to hide, he would not hide everything, everything. Every single scrap is blocked. When Sondland was testifying he said he was blocked from getting his own documentation by Trump. That is not what an innocent person would do. It is called obstruction of justice.
Nixon gave up documentation. Clinton testified. Trump hides. Trump does what the guilty does, not what a person with innocence protecting him would do.
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INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILT
 
Nordberg said:
Because you say so? The House was stopped from getting Trump's people to testify and from getting paperwork. Trump ordered all to ignore subpoenas and hide documentation. Think that will be reversed in the Senate? Trump will secrete every scrap of information again. That is what the guilty do. The Senate is full of Trump enablers.
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INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY.
 
Daddyo said:
Sad day for america is more like it. But like your traitors have already said years ago we can't win unless we impeach him. Thankfully he's gonna win reelection. My joy will come in your four year torture as trump reverses king Obama's doings and secures the courts for decades. Imagine the golden god with no care about reelection. Stocking up on the pop corn.
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