2. Wrong again. What's announced on C-Span are the RESULTS....NOT what each individual electoral rep voted. That is my point and what the information we sussed over is about, that like the regular citizen in the popular vote, individual electoral voters are NOT obliged or required to announce who they voted for.....that comes out after the vote in a general breakdown....there is no way to guarantee that the electoral voter will rightfully represent the true majority in his/her state.
Not true. The certification from each state (see
https://www.archives.gov/electoral-college/2020) contains the signatures of all electors and the number of electoral votes given to the presidential and vice presidential candidates.
If a state has ten electoral votes and Biden and Harris each get ten we know how every elector voted for both president an vp. This is what occurs in almost every state.
In a state like Nebraska that divides its 5 electoral votes among 3 congressional districts and 2 at-large we also know how all 5 of those electors voted because we know which congressional district they represent and which are the two at-large electors.
Because many states have fines for faithless electors or can even replace them we have to know which electors did not vote as pledged in order to punish them.
"When the Electoral College electors cast their ballots on Dec. 18, will we all know whom they voted for and if any of them are “faithless”?
We’ll know. Electors are already pledged to vote for the winner of the popular vote in their state (except for Maine and Nebraska, which cast their votes proportionately), so there’s nothing secret about it.
If an elector decides to be faithless and vote for someone besides who they are pledged to, he or she would have to publicly refuse to sign the pre-printed certificate. Although exact procedures vary from state to state, in general on the day electors vote they meet in public at their respective state capitols."
"OLYMPIA — One-third of Washington’s 12 Democratic presidential electors went rogue on Monday, breaking pledges to honor the
state’s popular vote for Democrat Hillary Clinton.In acts of symbolic protest, three voted instead for former Secretary of State Colin Powell, while one voted for
Faith Spotted Eagle, a Native American elder and activist from South Dakota. Under state law, the four electors who didn’t heed Washington’s popular vote now face fines of up to $1,000. A spokesman for Washington Secretary of State Kim Wyman confirmed her office will enforce that penalty
Three of them — Bret Chiafalo, Levi Guerra and Esther John — supported Powell, who served as former U.S. secretary of state under Republican President George W. Bush. The trio was part of the “Hamilton electors” movement that hoped to ally with GOP electors in others states in denying Trump the required 270 electoral-vote majority he needed to be sworn in as president next month.
Robert Satiacum, a member of the Puyallup Tribe, had blasted Clinton for failing to take a strong stand against the proposed Dakota Access Pipeline despite its implications for the planet. On Monday, he said his electoral vote was for “a real leader” instead of Clinton, citing Faith Spotted Eagle’s environmental activism."
I now understand your point about exit polls.
Is this the opening sentence you are talking about? "Y
es, electoral votes count regardless of who they voted for. However, these votes did not mean 1) that each state did not give most of its electoral votes to the popular vote winner; 2) or that those faithless electoral votes changed who won the electoral college and became president."
If so, please point out anything about that statement that is incorrect. Again, there have been relatively few faithless electors and never have they affected a presidential outcome.
If there had never been any faithless electors and they all voted for the popular vote winner in their state it would not have changed the result of any of the 59 presidential elections.