We have to split up!

Well, that's the question. Everyone wants to feed their Family. Who gets the 'Job'? The American? Or some Foreigner?

Anyone who thinks a job better done by robots is a career job is too retarded to have kids.

I don't support "free college" but I fully support making college cheaper and more accessible to all Americans who want to put in the work.

The Americans should be the managers, drivers, maintenance personnel, etc. Not fruit pickers. If not those jobs, then retrain for something of equal income.
 
Anyone who thinks a job better done by robots is a career job is too retarded to have kids.

I don't support "free college" but I fully support making college cheaper and more accessible to all Americans who want to put in the work.

The Americans should be the managers, drivers, maintenance personnel, etc. Not fruit pickers. If not those jobs, then retrain for something of equal income.

I keep hearing about the Trucking Industry being 'computerized' for Autonomous Drive. Making Truck Drivers obsolete. That's a lot of people, who probably don't have a lot of talents, that will be 'replaced'.
I don't know how sending them all to 'College' will work out. Then ... begin to multiply this phenomenon by all the other jobs that will eliminate Humans.

"Automated trucking, a technical milestone that could disrupt hundreds of thousands of jobs, hits the road"
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/driver...dustry-as-soon-as-2021-60-minutes-2020-08-23/

"Companies are already testing driverless trucks on America's roads. The technology will bring untold profits, but it may cost thousands of truckers their livelihoods."
 
You rightys can flee to Argentina. That is what Hitler is supposed to have done. They still have Nazi enclaves that will treat you like brothers.

Maybe you guys can flee to Havana. As an added bonus if you have any old 56 or 57 Chevy car parts you can bring along you will be THE MAN down there!
 
I keep hearing about the Trucking Industry being 'computerized' for Autonomous Drive. Making Truck Drivers obsolete. That's a lot of people, who probably don't have a lot of talents, that will be 'replaced'.
I don't know how sending them all to 'College' will work out. Then ... begin to multiply this phenomenon by all the other jobs that will eliminate Humans.

"Automated trucking, a technical milestone that could disrupt hundreds of thousands of jobs, hits the road"
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/driver...dustry-as-soon-as-2021-60-minutes-2020-08-23/

"Companies are already testing driverless trucks on America's roads. The technology will bring untold profits, but it may cost thousands of truckers their livelihoods."

The same with pilots. Life's a bitch, then you die. LOL

So far, I haven't seen any illegals competing for trucking or flying jobs. :)
 
The same with pilots. Life's a bitch, then you die. LOL

So far, I haven't seen any illegals competing for trucking or flying jobs. :)

:) Yeah. It's all in the 'theme' of the Working Class losing Jobs to Automation, Outsourcing, and Immigration.
If you have a choice, it's best to be in the 50% of Americans that are part of the Investing Class, rather than the 50% that are Hand-to-Mouth Worker Drones.
 
:) Yeah. It's all in the 'theme' of the Working Class losing Jobs to Automation, Outsourcing, and Immigration.
If you have a choice, it's best to be in the 50% of Americans that are part of the Investing Class, rather than the 50% that are Hand-to-Mouth Worker Drones.
It's not a B&W issue. The jobs of Americans making a living wage making jeans or putting the right front fenders of cars for 20 years are effectively gone. Boutique clothes and specialized cars are a little different.

There'll always be a need for drivers and pilots, but it'll be a greatly reduced niche.

The Ravikant interview points out how Rogan's job as a podcaster didn't even exist 15(?) years ago. People are making good money on Etsy or telecommuting.

Notice that mainly the service-type workers (including illegals) were harmed most by the pandemic. Telecommuters kept their jobs. Maybe reduced hours, but still a paycheck.
 
It's not a B&W issue. The jobs of Americans making a living wage making jeans or putting the right front fenders of cars for 20 years are effectively gone. Boutique clothes and specialized cars are a little different.

There'll always be a need for drivers and pilots, but it'll be a greatly reduced niche.

The Ravikant interview points out how Rogan's job as a podcaster didn't even exist 15(?) years ago. People are making good money on Etsy or telecommuting.

Notice that mainly the service-type workers (including illegals) were harmed most by the pandemic. Telecommuters kept their jobs. Maybe reduced hours, but still a paycheck.

Well, I think it IS a B&W issue when it comes to 'immigration'. Why import 'Basket weavers' into the Country?
'Automation' ... you're not going to stop or slow down.
'Outsourcing' ... maybe there is a Government decision to 'regulate' Capitalism even more than they do now. The WTO and Global Capitalism frown on that.
'Immigration' ... the EASIEST way to help the American Working Class is to STOP Cheap Foreign Labor from coming here and competing with Americans. (this seems like a no-brainer to me)
 
Well, I think it IS a B&W issue when it comes to 'immigration'. Why import 'Basket weavers' into the Country?
'Automation' ... you're not going to stop or slow down.
'Outsourcing' ... maybe there is a Government decision to 'regulate' Capitalism even more than they do now. The WTO and Global Capitalism frown on that.
'Immigration' ... the EASIEST way to help the American Working Class is to STOP Cheap Foreign Labor from coming here and competing with Americans. (this seems like a no-brainer to me)

The fact you see "Cheap Foreign Labor" as your competition says a lot all by itself. :)
 
what a stupid remark -even for you.
it's like you were asleep since the 1980's when Cheap Foreign Labor cause all the outsourcing

For no one in the states. Just the one percent. Since they had to possibly pay 2%. No the 'stupid' is the belief in the 1% narrative.
You do that well.
 
The fact you see "Cheap Foreign Labor" as your competition says a lot all by itself. :)

:) I'm retired. I'm an Observer of what is occurring. I come to the Political Forum to hear different opinions, views, solutions.

Now, I will concede that I'm on the losing end of this Argument. Even the Right supports 'Legal Immigration', which I oppose on the same reasoning.
The Left seems to be caught up with 'We're Nice People', rather than being pragmatic about the Future of the American Working Class.

My Argument entails more. 'Quality of Life' (who wants to live in Bombay, Shanghai, or Jakarta?). 'Environment' (more people means more degradation of the natural environment). 'Carrying Capacity of the Planet' (at some point Food Production can't meet demand ... think 'Soylent Green').

Anyway, nice talking to you.
 
Well, I think it IS a B&W issue when it comes to 'immigration'. Why import 'Basket weavers' into the Country?
'Automation' ... you're not going to stop or slow down.
'Outsourcing' ... maybe there is a Government decision to 'regulate' Capitalism even more than they do now. The WTO and Global Capitalism frown on that.
'Immigration' ... the EASIEST way to help the American Working Class is to STOP Cheap Foreign Labor from coming here and competing with Americans. (this seems like a no-brainer to me)

The core issue is dumbing down humanity for top down greed. The whole system we are apart of is the magical bullshit that, 'you too' can win the lottery and be the billionaire class if you just go along with the meme that labor is evil, 'commy' and the smart thieves know how to help you, lol. But they are thieves and could give two shits to the wind for you, your family, your land, your environment, your children or your grandchildren or the planet we reside in, they are a SELF IMPORTANT CANCER that's owned the narrative and cancer feeders here, give them power in the hopes they too can win the lottery of selfishness, so they can smugly say you're a failure.

This forum is the bastion of self loathing towards others in the name of fucking, ME.

It's a fucking poison, now.
 
:) I'm retired. I'm an Observer of what is occurring. I come to the Political Forum to hear different opinions, views, solutions.

Now, I will concede that I'm on the losing end of this Argument. Even the Right supports 'Legal Immigration', which I oppose on the same reasoning.
The Left seems to be caught up with 'We're Nice People', rather than being pragmatic about the Future of the American Working Class.

My Argument entails more. 'Quality of Life' (who wants to live in Bombay, Shanghai, or Jakarta?). 'Environment' (more people means more degradation of the natural environment). 'Carrying Capacity of the Planet' (at some point Food Production can't meet demand ... think 'Soylent Green').

Anyway, nice talking to you.

No dude, what we need is a global framework. The 1% want you to think one nation vs. the other is greater or lessor. We, ARE ONE humanity. How we get there is in different places and different times but it requires a more conscious bottom up, biological framework. We need to be engaged with where labor, people and humanity IS for the future of global stability. No systems owns the future of this 'shmere' on the planet called life, it requires all hands on deck. Do you grasp this? Seriously, do you?
 
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