We're at 11,000 Witnesses of Vote Fraud and Counting

T. A. Gardner said:
Really. Down ballot tends to follow the big races. That is consistent from presidential election to election. We haven't seen a presidential election where the party that won the top of the ticket simultaneously lost the rest of the ticket in modern history. That makes the outcome of this election very unique.
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Which isn't surprising. This was a very unique election. We've never had a president this bad and we've rarely had a global pandemic like this.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
One curious, and undeniable, thing about this election is that Joke Biden massively outperformed his party as a whole. In down-ticket races nationwide the Democrats took something of a drubbing. They lost seats in the House, failed to gain control of the Senate, didn't really change state level control of governors or legislatures. Pretty much across the board, they had a mediocre election result.
Yet, Joke Biden outperformed this overall view quite substantially. Why is that? One would expect if Biden did well he'd pull many down-ticket races along with him. That's what normally happens. That's what happened with both Obama and Clinton in their initial election for example. That's what the Democrats and pollsters predicted. Remember their "Blue wave?"

Yet, that didn't happen. It's quite odd that Biden alone should outperform his party in general so dramatically.
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Not really. People complain about congress but generally like their own elected critters. The fact that Biden won so overwhelmingly says more about #LOSER45 than anything else. This election was a resounding slap in the orange mug of the corrupt criminal who got us where we are today -- flat economy, raging pandemic, deaths piling up by the hundreds daily, no plans or efforts to mitigate that.

The people said your Malignant Melon must go. We are mostly content to let everyone else stay and clean up the mess.

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T. A. Gardner said:
Really. Down ballot tends to follow the big races. That is consistent from presidential election to election. We haven't seen a presidential election where the party that won the top of the ticket simultaneously lost the rest of the ticket in modern history. That makes the outcome of this election very unique.
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Except that your argument fails because the "party that won the top of the ticket" did NOT lose the rest of the ticket. Pretty much things stayed the same. The (D)s picked up a couple of Senate seats, lost a few House seats -- and vice versa of course.
 
StoneByStone said:
Which isn't surprising. This was a very unique election. We've never had a president this bad and we've rarely had a global pandemic like this.
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Yes we have had presidents this bad and worse. (in no particular order)

LBJ
Millard Fillmore
Franklin Pierce
Andrew Johnson
Even James Madison could be considered worse.

That's a short list, but those can be justified through their actions as President. So far, I've yet to see any particular reason Trump was "the worst," other than those saying so simply hating on him.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Except that your argument fails because the "party that won the top of the ticket" did NOT lose the rest of the ticket. Pretty much things stayed the same. The (D)s picked up a couple of Senate seats, lost a few House seats -- and vice versa of course.
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They lost ground in governors and state legislatures meaning that after the 2020 census is finalized, Republicans will decide congressional districts in a majority of the states. It also means that Biden is faced with gridlock in Congress, at best, and will be unable to push forward any sort of real agenda. So, it looks like the Democrats won the Presidency only to lose the election.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
They lost ground in governors and state legislatures meaning that after the 2020 census is finalized, Republicans will decide congressional districts in a majority of the states. It also means that Biden is faced with gridlock in Congress, at best, and will be unable to push forward any sort of real agenda. So, it looks like the Democrats won the Presidency only to lose the election.
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You didn't realize that (R)s already controlled a majority of state legislatures?

I'd say America won because we rid ourselves of the most corrupt, incompetent, treasonous, and failed IMPOTUS ever. You're welcome.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
You didn't realize that (R)s already controlled a majority of state legislatures?

I'd say America won because we rid ourselves of the most corrupt, incompetent, treasonous, and failed IMPOTUS ever. You're welcome.
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They expanded that control. The Democrats lost ground at the state level. There are now more Republican controlled states than before the election.

As for your second claim... I keep asking this of those who say that, Can you give me some examples of this corruption, incompetence, treason, and failure? It seems as if those are just hollow slogans and propaganda from the Progressive Left as no one seems to be able to actually do that.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
They expanded that control. The Democrats lost ground at the state level. There are now more Republican controlled states than before the election.

As for your second claim... I keep asking this of those who say that, Can you give me some examples of this corruption, incompetence, treason, and failure? It seems as if those are just hollow slogans and propaganda from the Progressive Left as no one seems to be able to actually do that.
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Exactly. Throw examples of racism in there also. They all scatter like cockroaches.
 
When these crazy right-wing threads are shown to be crap, will the rightys apologize and rethink what they said? Trump simply lost using the same election systems we have always used.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
As for your second claim... I keep asking this of those who say that, Can you give me some examples of this corruption, incompetence, treason, and failure? It seems as if those are just hollow slogans and propaganda from the Progressive Left as no one seems to be able to actually do that.
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I have been asked that -- and answered it -- multiple times since 2016. And you know what? No matter how many credible sources I provide -- even articles from Fox -- not a single one of you cultists will accept what truth is provided. Your adoration of #TRE45ON blinds you to all else.

But yeah, "slogans." :laugh:
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
I have been asked that -- and answered it -- multiple times since 2016. And you know what? No matter how many credible sources I provide -- even articles from Fox -- not a single one of you cultists will accept what truth is provided. Your adoration of #TRE45ON blinds you to all else.

But yeah, "slogans." :laugh:
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All T. A. Gardner seems to be able to do is post tripe using fancy vocabulary.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
That's a short list, but those can be justified through their actions as President. So far, I've yet to see any particular reason Trump was "the worst," other than those saying so simply hating on him.
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Well that's because you're a Fascist, so you see the Fascist things he's done as being a positive. And I guess you're still in denial about the role he played with the virus.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
I have been asked that -- and answered it -- multiple times since 2016. And you know what? No matter how many credible sources I provide -- even articles from Fox -- not a single one of you cultists will accept what truth is provided. Your adoration of #TRE45ON blinds you to all else.

But yeah, "slogans." :laugh:
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Then you should have no trouble answering it for me. The above amounts to little more than dodging the question.
 
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