WE'VE LOST...THEY'VE WON!

[RB 60]

NO. They are not.

They are people who see the threat Donald Trump poses.

I thought that was self-evident.

Trump won't be the end of this country, Frank. We've had worse presidents, they just didn't have twitter to prove it.

 

[Ross Dolan]

Like I said before Frank, it might do you well to take a break from these political forums.

I'm just fine.

Hell...I'm 81. I won't have to tolerate what comes of this for long.

 

[Ross Dolan]

Trump won't be the end of this country, Frank. We've had worse presidents, they just didn't have twitter to prove it.

I doubt we've actually had worse.

I am convinced Trump is the bottom.

 

[cawacko]

If you do not understand what our side of the issue is...

...it is no wonder you are on that side.

I didn't know I was on a "side". How about in English and not tribalism. You're claiming we are all about to die. So I don't understand if i say we will live? Then F you for disrespecting my daughter

 

[Cancel 2018.1]

Cheer or don't cheer at a sporting event.

It has nothing to do with what is being said here.

Sorry but I didn't see myself in those pics you posted.

 

[Ross Dolan]

And he disarmed them, too. That's why we have a Constitution, to protect from government tyranny. You've even said yourself, that disarming us will never happen here.

Ahhh...the "disarming" thing.

Now I see what you are getting at.

We can all rest easy because guys like you...are going to stand up to Donald Trump if he tries anything.

Yeah.

Oh, what a relief to know we have people like you.

 

[RB 60]

I doubt we've actually had worse.

I am convinced Trump is the bottom.

Read some history on past presidents.
Granted, Trump should stay off twitter and let the criticism be as it may and concentrate on governing.
That said, again, it's too early to make a sound judgement on whether he's at the bottom.
I didn't care for Obama, but I didn't hate him and I survived. Don't let hate cloud your judgement.

 

[Ross Dolan]

I didn't know I was on a "side".

I imagine there are lots of things you don't know. Or at least, it sounds as though there are.

How about in English and not tribalism. You're claiming we are all about to die.

I am claiming that Donald Trump is a menace...and that his followers are acting an awful lot like Hitler's followers were during the 1030's.

That's all.

So I don't understand if i say we will live? Then F you for disrespecting my daughter

Respect your daughter enough to keep her out of this discussion.

 

[countryboy]

Bitter?

Not I.

Old fuck?

Yeah...I guess so.

As for your seeing no resemblance...I understand.

None of the people in that first picture would have either.



We are screwed.

 

[RB 60]

Ahhh...the "disarming" thing.

Now I see what you are getting at.

We can all rest easy because guys like you...are going to stand up to Donald Trump if he tries anything.

Yeah.

Oh, what a relief to know we have people like you.

Frank, please don't bother responding to me any longer. You asked for a respectable discussion and I tried my damnedest to give you one. I'm sorry I wasted our time.

 

[Ross Dolan]

Read some history on past presidents.
Granted, Trump should stay off twitter and let the criticism be as it may and concentrate on governing.
That said, again, it's too early to make a sound judgement on whether he's at the bottom.
I didn't care for Obama, but I didn't hate him and I survived. Don't let hate cloud your judgement.

Donald Trump is a danger to the Republic...and his followers look to me like the followers of Adolf Hitler in the 1930's. If it bothers you for me to call that to everyone's attention...

...tough.

I am as bothered as (apparently you are) by what even I see as hatred of what Donald Trump is doing. I'd love to be above that...but I acknowledge I am not.

I imagine there were Germans who saw no danger in Adolf Hitler who wished they had hated him at the beginning...and advocated rejecting him.

 

[Nomad]

Here is my guess about the reality of our political situation. I HOPE I AM WRONG. I fervently hope I am wrong.

We’ve lost…they’ve won!

Those of us who oppose and are horrified that Donald Trump is our president...those of us who actively oppose him…HAVE LOST.

The people who helped Donald Trump to win the presidency; the people continuing to support him; and the people NOT actively opposing him…

…HAVE WON.

Adolf Hitler came to power legally. Donald Trump also came to power legally.

It now appears as though the fools who support him have sealed the fate of our nation. My guess is that anyone (including Donald Trump) on trial for crimes committed in support of his candidacy or in support of his administration…will NEVER be found guilty. There will always be at least one rabid individual on each jury like one of these people here who refuses to see the problem…probably several. After several hung juries…the prosecutors will give up even trying.

Hitler…oops, I mean Trump…will almost certainly prevail. He’ll manage to obtain an enabling act of some sort…and become dictator.

I imagine for the rabble fawning before him…it will be a glorious time.

Well, it all depends on the midterm results in November.

If the Repugnants hold the House, no matter what Mueller's report says, the worst punishment that Trump would suffer would be censure, if that.

If the Dems win the House only but not the Senate, assuming Mueller finds major crimes committed by Trump or by his campaign with his knowledge, there will be an impeachment, but it could go either way in the Senate.

If the Dems win both houses, again assuming Mueller finds something, it's all over for Trump. He'd probably pardon himself and everyone else then resign before any action could be taken against him.

 

[Tranquillus in Exile]

Here is my guess about the reality of our political situation ...

“When fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in the flag and waving a cross”
- (attrib. Sinclair Lewis).

Trump has got the flag and the cross-wavers, but I think he would have to be a LOT smarter to pull off something like that.

Germany had lost WWI after coming very close, lost significant territory, gone through hyperinflation and 30-40% unemployment, and had a tradition of militarism. America is peeved about 'unfair' trade practices?

 

[cawacko]

I imagine there are lots of things you don't know. Or at least, it sounds as though there are.




I am claiming that Donald Trump is a menace...and that his followers are acting an awful lot like Hitler's followers were during the 1030's.

That's all.





Respect your daughter enough to keep her out of this discussion.

Yeah, there is a whole hell of a lot I don't know. And the funny thing is the older I get and the more I learn it only reinforces how little I actually know.

I would give my life in a heartbeat for my daughter. So yeah, when you speak like we're going to die I'm looking out for her first.

I was always taught to respect my elders so I have pains of guilt here having told an 81 year old to F off. But for as much guilt as I feel I'd do it again based on your comments

 

[Ross Dolan]

Yeah, there is a whole hell of a lot I don't know. And the funny thing is the older I get and the more I learn it only reinforces how little I actually know.

I too discovered how little I knew earlier...with each passing year. For the last 20 years on the Internet...I have used the words, "I do not know" more than anyone with whom Ive had contact. I certainly use those words more than anyone I know in my non-cyber life.

I would give my life in a heartbeat for my daughter. So yeah, when you speak like we're going to die I'm looking out for her first.

Then leave her out of this discussion. The way you brought her into it was disgusting...whether you can see that or not.

Show those words to your wife...and see if she thinks them to be appropriate...no matter what was being said here.

I was always taught to respect my elders so I have pains of guilt here having told an 81 year old to F off. But for as much guilt as I feel I'd do it again based on your comments

Have your say. I respect your right to say it...and accept that it might be more appropriate than I want to admit.

Those of us who do this Internet arguing have thick skins.

 

[Nordberg]

And he disarmed them, too. That's why we have a Constitution, to protect from government tyranny. You've even said yourself, that disarming us will never happen here.

Hitler did not disarm the people. later on he tried to take away jewish peoples weapons.However Hitler did not win more than half the vote. He has that in common with Daffy.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

I have not gone off the deep end.

Take another look at that first picture...then take a look at these.

So you cherry pick pictures, in a really pathetic try to make a point.

If someone wanted to take the time and put forth the effort, both Hillary and Obama could be made to appear as Hitler like also.

 

[Ross Dolan]

So you cherry pick pictures, in a really pathetic try to make a point.

If someone wanted to take the time and put forth the effort, both Hillary and Obama could be made to appear as Hitler like also.

Yeah...but...but...but...ahhh...

...neither Hillary Clinton nor Barack Obama are president of the United States right now. Let them be as much like Hitler as they want. You can be if you want also. Means nothing.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

Yeah...but while those people were cheering in the first photo...

...Hitler had not killed all those people.

He was just promising to make Germany great again.

So...go cheer, RB. We'll see about the mental stability.

So when people were cheering for Obama or Hillary, they were thinking of killing people and there mental stability should be questioned also.

You have just exhibited the biggest case of butt hurt, that has been posted lately.

 

[Ross Dolan]

So when people were cheering for Obama or Hillary, they were thinking of killing people and there mental stability should be questioned also.

You have just exhibited the biggest case of butt hurt, that has been posted lately.

Yeah...you do want for that to be the case.

It ain't.

People cheering for Hillary or former President Obama...or former President George W. Bush, George HW Bush, Bill Clinton, Ronald Reagan...etc...were cheering for the person who wanted to serve as president.

Donald Trump is all about Donald Trump.

And he is a dictator wanna-be.

People who helped put him into office should hang their heads in shame.

People who still support him should seek help from a mental health professional.