What are Leftist American Marxists Trying to Destroy and Replace?

T. A. Gardner said:
Then you have Leftists like Ross Doland who speak only in glittering generalities, platitudes, and vague promises of utopia but when asked for specifics turn instantly into hateful monsters who refuse to answer their own claims and seek to destroy anyone that questions their motives.
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"glittering generalities, platitudes, and vague promises" are the nuts and bolts of both parties' propaganda campaigns.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
What a dodge! First, you make trivial objections, then move to whataboutism. Worse, you try to fear monger and make a call for destruction of your enemies while saying nothing about your own intentions.
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You said I promise Utopia. I defy you to show me doing so.

You won't, mostly because I never have.

If either of us is dodging...YOU are that dodger, although you are far from being "artful" about it.
T. A. Gardner said:
I'm not.
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You sound as though you do.

T. A. Gardner said:
The Left, historically, has been the single greatest destructive cause of pain, suffering, misery, death, and poverty to humanity for over two centuries now. Any sensible, rational, person would fear the Left.
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Bullshit. If anything, people should fear that Nazi-like MAGA shit.
T. A. Gardner said:
In other words, you can't so you engage in ad hominem and insults instead.
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I do indulge in ad homs and insults...but mostly because I see so much of it coming from the MAGA morons. You are correct about that. But the reason I am refusing to play your game has already been explained. You know the answers. The questions are just dodges from you people.
T. A. Gardner said:
No, you don't.
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Oh, yes I do. It is amateurish...and most of us understand the "ask them questions" nonsense.
T. A. Gardner said:
You made it up to suit your own need for propaganda and deflection. That shows because you cannot and will not put forward what the Left wants to do in tangible terms.
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I did not make it up. It is obviously the MAGA moron MO. And I have already told you why I am not playing your questions game.
T. A. Gardner said:
The Left WILL destroy our Republic given power.
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The right WILL destroy our Republic...and you can see Trump trying. But you are being stubborn.

Okay...there were many Germans who did the same thing in the middle of the last century.


T. A. Gardner said:
That has numerous historical precedents to validate it. The Left has killed billions of people. Again, that's a historical fact.
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Unfortunately, the left and the right has killed billions of people. Obviously you want to pin most of those killings on the left. Okay...do it. I don't mind laughing at you for doing so.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Last resort of a Leftist: Hurl a final insult then run away. The Left can never be honest about what they would do to make society in their image because if they were nobody would support them.
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What on Earth makes you suppose this is the "final insult" I intend to hurl? I am right here...not running away at all. I intend to hurl lots more at you, TA. So?

How seriously would you take a thorough explanation of my position (at least one leftist) on where we should be heading?
 
Ross Dolan said:
I want things to be fairer and more comfortable for everyone.

The only people who do not support that are people like you.

Too bad, that.
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Define "fair" and how you will achieve that. Define "comfort." How comfortable is comfortable enough?

What I don't support is robbing some people to give to others who often don't deserve it in the name of "fair and equal." The whole idea of Leftist economics is one of envy.
 
Ross Dolan said:
What on Earth makes you suppose this is the "final insult" I intend to hurl? I am right here...not running away at all. I intend to hurl lots more at you, TA. So?

How seriously would you take a thorough explanation of my position (at least one leftist) on where we should be heading?
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Quite seriously. The thing is, if you gave one and I raised serious objections and questions about it, all you would do is circle back to insults and ad hominem.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Define "fair" and how you will achieve that. Define "comfort." How comfortable is comfortable enough?
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YOu define them.

T. A. Gardner said:
What I don't support is robbing some people to give to others who often don't deserve it in the name of "fair and equal." The whole idea of Leftist economics is one of envy.
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Horseshit.

You people spend most of your energy thinking up reasons to justify your hatred of others.

Get over yourself.
 
Libhater said:
Individualism with Collectivism
Constitutional protected rights with Government overreach
Equality of Opportunities with Equity of outcome
Rule of law with lawlessness and mob culture
Content of character with Identity (Skin color, gender, sexual orientation, etc.)
Free Market with Socialism, i.e. Sanders, AOC, Mamdani, Pocahontas et al.
Nationalism with Globalism
Diversity of though with Conformity
Justice for all with customized justice e.g. racial, social and environmental justice
Freedom of expression with Censorship/Political Correctness
Parental Rights with Children of the State
Common Sense with Political ideology

Any forum liberals willing to admit that the Dem Party and you have been deeply entrenched
in this Marxist ideology? Just admit it by showing your Hammer and Sickle Tattoo to us at this forum.
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Congrats on another totally lying thread. Your streak continues.
 
Jake Starkey said:
It's your claim. Prove it. Show us that Mamdani wants to own the means of production.

He is a social market democrat claiming to be a socialist. He is not.
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He states all the time that he is a socialist along with being an anti Semite, yet you say he is not a socialist? LOL
 
Libhater said:
www.jewishvoicesnj.org

What you should know about Mamdani and the Democratic Socialists - Jewish Community Voice

It was a Jewish politician, Bernie Sanders, whose surprisingly strong showing in the 2016 presidential primaries brought the Democratic Socialists of America to prominence. Although not a member of the group, Sanders identifies as a “democratic socialist.” The DSA endorsed him, and his candidacy...
www.jewishvoicesnj.org www.jewishvoicesnj.org
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Jake Starkey said:
It's your claim. Prove it. Show us that Mamdani wants to own the means of production.

He is a social market democrat claiming to be a socialist. He is not.
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www.jewishvoicesnj.org

What you should know about Mamdani and the Democratic Socialists - Jewish Community Voice

It was a Jewish politician, Bernie Sanders, whose surprisingly strong showing in the 2016 presidential primaries brought the Democratic Socialists of America to prominence. Although not a member of the group, Sanders identifies as a “democratic socialist.” The DSA endorsed him, and his candidacy...
www.jewishvoicesnj.org www.jewishvoicesnj.org
 
Jake Starkey said:
American is transforming, boys and girls, and nothing can stop it.
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Trump is stopping obama and the dem party's transformation into a Marxist hellhole. American is transforming boys and girls? No,
you f**ked up lefties have managed to transform young children into sex confused suicidal scapegoats of your ongoing Marxist
ideology to transform our sound culture into a Mao Zedong type of cultural revolution. You F**ks won't win this battle.
 
Ross Dolan said:
I am a leftist...far left.
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Which means you are dishonest 24/7 and you seek to concentrate power into the government at the eventual doom of We the People.

Ross Dolan said:
We mostly stand for caring for our fellow humans;
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This is your euphemism for "not valuing human life" and "seeking killing supremacy." This is why the DNC is the party of Death, after all.

Ross Dolan said:
our planet and its health;
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This is your euphemism for attempting to kill all life on planet Earth, by getting Earth's sacred life-essential compound CO2 declared to be "poison" and "pollution" in order to justify programs to remove all of it from the atmosphere, thus killing all plant-life, on which all other life depends. This is partly why the DNC is the party of Death, after all.

Ross Dolan said:
and for the non-human population that share the planet with us.
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This is your tongue-in-cheek way of saying that you want animal supremacy (with crimes against animals to command the most severe punishments) while legally and physically preventing human fathers from saving their own children from certain death.

Ross Dolan said:
As for the American right...here is what they are proud of:
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I bet you don't get this right. You aren't educated enough to really get anything right, and you aren't honest enough to say anything that you might accidentally get right.

Ross Dolan said:
They are proud that they can justify their considerable hatred ...
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There's no HATRED to be had on the right. The left has cornered the market on irrational HATRED.

Ross Dolan said:
MAGA morons can justify their hatred and lack of concern for non-white people;
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The MAGA camp is accepting with open arms the deluge of "non-white" people who are fleeing the left in droves as the DNC implodes.

Ross Dolan said:
for older people; for poor people;
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The MAGA camp is accepting all of them with open arms as well, as they flee the oppression of the left for the empowering freedom of the right.

Ross Dolan said:
And when Hillary Clinton called them a basket of deplorables...they castigated her for doing so.
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Yes, we are still roasting her for that.

Ross Dolan said:
As far as I was concerned, she was being kind
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... because you are just another iraationally HATEFUL leftist.

Ross Dolan said:
...because they actually are a disgusting bunch of trash masquerading as humans.
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That's what all you irrationally HATEFUL leftists say.
 
Libhater said:
Although not a member of the group, Sanders identifies as a “democratic socialist.” The DSA endorsed him, and his candidacy inspired a surge in membership.

Nine years later, the DSA has endorsed another rising progressive star, and this time he is a member: Zohran Mamdani, a member of DSA’s New York chapter, who pulled off a stunning upset in the Democratic primary for New York City mayor.
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Please remember that Democratic Socialism is just the new name for National Socialism, i.e. Hitler's brand of socialism, denoted as a fascist/progressive form of socialism, that muscles what it needs with Brown Shirts/ANTIFA/BLM and wants you to only believe what Goebbles/CNN/MSNBC tell you to believe.
 
Libhater said:
Individualism with Collectivism
Constitutional protected rights with Government overreach
Equality of Opportunities with Equity of outcome
Rule of law with lawlessness and mob culture
Content of character with Identity (Skin color, gender, sexual orientation, etc.)
Free Market with Socialism, i.e. Sanders, AOC, Mamdani, Pocahontas et al.
Nationalism with Globalism
Diversity of though with Conformity
Justice for all with customized justice e.g. racial, social and environmental justice
Freedom of expression with Censorship/Political Correctness
Parental Rights with Children of the State
Common Sense with Political ideology

Any forum liberals willing to admit that the Dem Party and you have been deeply entrenched
in this Marxist ideology? Just admit it by showing your Hammer and Sickle Tattoo to us at this forum.
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There are perhaps some marxists in America, but they are not influential.
 
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