What are Leftist American Marxists Trying to Destroy and Replace?

Hume said:
Please give in your own words what a Marxist is.
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Since I didn't pick you out by calling you a Marxist, perhaps you could start the ball rolling by identifying
/defining what fascism means to you, and then tell us via your keyboard just how fascism relates to or defines we
Conservatives at this forum.
 
Libhater said:
Since I didn't pick you out by calling you a Marxist, perhaps you could start the ball rolling by identifying
/defining what fascism means to you, and then tell us via your keyboard just how fascism relates to or defines we
Conservatives at this forum.
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Fascism is the use of violence to achieve political ends. It is the way capitalism eliminates social or public space.
 

Definitions of Fascism​

Fascism typically includes:
  • Authoritarian leadership
  • Nationalist rhetoric
  • Suppression of dissent
  • Use of propaganda
  • Disregard for democratic norms
However, fascism also historically involved state control of industry, militarism, and a one-party system, which do not fully align with Trump’s policies.

📣 Arguments​

Some critics argue Trump exhibits fascist tendencies based on:

  • Strongman rhetoric and personal loyalty demands
  • Attacks on media and institutions
  • Use of executive power to bypass norms
  • Nationalist and exclusionary language
  • Encouragement of political violence (e.g., Jan. 6 Capitol riot)
These critics often cite historical comparisons to early fascist movements in Europe.

🛑 Arguments​

Others argue Trump is not a fascist, pointing out:
  • He operated within a multi-party democratic system
  • He did not impose state control over the economy
  • His policies reflect populism and nationalism, not full fascism
  • The term “fascist” is often used as a political insult, not a precise classification

🧾 Scholarly Views​

  • Madeleine Albright (former U.S. Secretary of State) warned of “fascism creeping in” but stopped short of labeling Trump outright.
  • Ruth Ben-Ghiat, historian of authoritarianism, argues Trump fits the mold of a modern authoritarian populist, though not a textbook fascist.
In short, whether Trump is a fascist depends on the criteria used and the political lens through which one views his actions. The term remains controversial and contested in both academic and public discourse.

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Hume said:
Fascism is the use of violence to achieve political ends.
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So the ongoing violence America has seen these past 5 years that has been nearly 100% leftist oriented will make
leftist fascism the right meaning in any of our dictionaries. Two assassination attempts on Trump, Charlie Kirk
murder, BLM & Antifa violence over Floyd death that had 2 dozens murders during the Summer of Love. Anti ICE
violence, and it goes on and on with leftist violence.
 
Libhater said:
So the ongoing violence America has seen these past 5 years that has been nearly 100% leftist oriented will make
leftist fascism the right meaning in any of our dictionaries. Two assassination attempts on Trump, Charlie Kirk
murder, BLM & Antifa violence over Floyd death that had 2 dozens murders during the Summer of Love. Anti ICE
violence, and it goes on and on with leftist violence.
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Trump organized the violent attack on the Capitol Jan. 6.
 
Hume said:
Fascism is the use of violence to achieve political ends.
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Wow, that's fucking retarded.

Hume said:
It is the way capitalism eliminates social or public space.
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You are astoundingly ignorant.

Fascism is ultimately the supremacy of the state, the concept that ALL power ultimately is the rightful domain of the central, in our case federal, government.

Mussolini was one of Vladimir Lenin's top lieutenants and deeply dedicated to the cause of socialism. But of course he was a megalomaniac and not going to play second fiddle to anyone, Il Deuce was the boss.

Mussolini set out to fix some of the deep flaws of the Bolsheviks. First was the issue of human nature. The Bolsheviks addressed this by corruption, Lenin and later Stalin made corruption a central feature of Communism, because nothing gets accomplished without the promise of reward. Graft is a poor way of managing.

Italy is the birthplace of the modern market, Venice the heart of the Renaissance. Also the rise of the Guilds. The Marxists in academia like to lie and claim that Fascism is "corporatist" - whatever the fuck that means. But in reality Mussolini followed the guild structure.

Surprisingly, Wikipedia does a good job of explaining how these guilds under Il Deuce were nothing like a modern corporation.


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A fascist corporation is a government body that brings together federations of workers and employers syndicates belonging to the same profession and branch, to regulate production in a holistic manner. Each trade union would theoretically represent its professional concerns, especially by negotiation of labour contracts and the like. It was theorized that this method could result in harmony amongst social classes.[35]

Corporatism - Wikipedia​

en.wikipedia.org

Ultimately the central doctrine of Fascism is supremacy of the state. This is also the central doctrine of the democrat party - that the state is supreme and individuals are irrelevant.
 
Hume said:
Trump organized the violent attack on the Capitol Jan. 6.
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That is a blatant lie.

Trump wasn't at the Capitol. Further, had Capitol police not bombarded the crowd with tear gas for 90 minutes, it's unlikely any violence would have ensued.

Want a dog to bite you? Kick it repeatedly.
 
AProudLefty said:
The Republicans are a Nazi, Fascist party. Those who belong to that party are Fascists.
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An utterly stupid claim. I know you're just doing the typical "Nuhn Uhn YOOO" idiocy. Still..

Republicans are not socialists and do not support governmental control of the economy. Ulike democrats, Republicans do not have a scapegoat based on race, the way democrats scapegoat whites. Republicans are not authoritarian - democrats are though. Republicans support individualism, unlike the fascist democrats who demand that the state is supreme in all things and the individual is irrelevant. Democrats, like all fascists, all Marxists, hold that people are fungible and have value only insofar as they are of use to the party, or the state.

See the source image
 
Uncensored2008 said:
An utterly stupid claim. I know you're just doing the typical "Nuhn Uhn YOOO" idiocy. Still..
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I was mirroring you in hope that you'd see your own idiocy.
Uncensored2008 said:
Republicans are not socialists and do not support governmental control of the economy. Ulike democrats, Republicans do not have a scapegoat based on race, the way democrats scapegoat whites. Republicans are not authoritarian - democrats are though. Republicans support individualism, unlike the fascist democrats who demand that the state is supreme in all things and the individual is irrelevant. Democrats, like all fascists, all Marxists, hold that people are fungible and have value only insofar as they are of use to the party, or the state.

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More gaslighting.

I find it funny that you claim that minorities and Jews who are Democrat hate themselves.
 
Libhater said:
So the ongoing violence America has seen these past 5 years that has been nearly 100% leftist oriented will make
leftist fascism the right meaning in any of our dictionaries. Two assassination attempts on Trump, Charlie Kirk
murder, BLM & Antifa violence over Floyd death that had 2 dozens murders during the Summer of Love. Anti ICE
violence, and it goes on and on with leftist violence.
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This "ongoing violence America has seen these past 5 years that has been nearly 100% leftist oriented" is a lie: J6, Charlottesville, Oakland, shootings, bombings, etc., has been overwhelmingly from the right, per the rightwing Cato Institute.


The Cato Institute reports that right‑wing extremists have been responsible for more politically motivated murders in the United States than left‑wing extremists (right‑wing 391 murders versus left‑wing 65 over 1975–September 2025), with Islamist terrorists accounting for the largest share overall.
 
Jake Starkey said:
This "ongoing violence America has seen these past 5 years that has been nearly 100% leftist oriented" is a lie: J6, Charlottesville, Oakland, shootings, bombings, etc., has been overwhelmingly from the right, per the rightwing Cato Institute.
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The Cato Institute reports that right‑wing extremists have been responsible for more politically motivated murders in the United States than left‑wing extremists (right‑wing 391 murders versus left‑wing 65 over 1975–September 2025), with Islamist terrorists accounting for the largest share overall.
 
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