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So many are out of work in this great country, what can be done?

Nothing seems to work so far.

Has any one heard some ideas?
 
A lot of people just did. What will that accomplish, and how?

I've heard all kinds of promises.

What do YOU think?
 
A lot of people just did. What will that accomplish, and how?

I've heard all kinds of promises.

What do YOU think?
Nothing yet, meathead....they haven't taken office yet to pass or vote on anything.
 
So many are out of work in this great country, what can be done?

Nothing seems to work so far.

Has any one heard some ideas?

Nothing seems to work so far because liberal democrats are running government. The president is an anti-business Marxist who hates capitalism. Haven't you heard all the horror stories about greedy big corporations, wall street, the rich people who have more than they deserve? The left has waged an all-out war on capitalism for the better part of the last decade, and show no signs of letting up. You can't expect job creation in such an environment.

Now, the next big thing is this... Government doesn't create jobs! It doesn't matter what the politicians say, or what they promise you, the government simply can't create jobs. Oh, they can throw out a few public sector jobs here and there, create a new department of whatever, hire more government workers to make twice what they deserve and be eligible for pension plans and such, but by-and-large, the government simply can't create enough jobs to make a difference. About the only time there has ever been an exception to this, is when government has 'created jobs' as a US soldier in a time of war. Private sector job creation happens in the private sector, not government. In order to stimulate private sector job creation, you have to encourage the people in the private sector who have the wealth to create jobs. Nothing this administration has done, is the least bit encouraging to those people. You have to come up with ways to incentivize creation of new jobs, and again, this administration has not even entertained such an idea, they are hell-bent on doing the diametric opposite, because they are Marxist Socialists.

You see, the Marxist-Socialist idea, is to stifle capitalism and business, drive unemployment even higher, create a worse condition for the average Joe. By doing this, you become desperate for answers, like your thread here sounds... Oh my goodness, what can we do? *wringing hands* Well, what we can do, is let government take over the means of production! Then the government can determine where you need to work and what you need to do, to best serve the commune as a whole. In theory, this is supposed to be preferable to capitalism, free enterprise, and free market economics. The problem is, it has failed miserably every time it has been tried in human history.

Back to your question of what can be done. Like I said, it's really not that complicated. Congress has to enact legislation to ease restrictions and burdens on corporate America, to encourage hiring and growth, and to give entrepreneurs an incentive to create new jobs, through tax breaks or other means at their disposal. Then, the government has to get out of the way, and let capitalism work. That's not that difficult, it's a pretty simple solution. Unfortunately, it goes against everything Marxist Socialists want to accomplish.
 
So many are out of work in this great country, what can be done?

Nothing seems to work so far.

Has any one heard some ideas?
Quit depending on the government, for one. When push comes to shove, those in government are, like anyone else, most concerned with their own well being. Big, bloated, strong central government is what those in government want because it gives them the most. The "help" the big mommy government hooligans keep supporting is purposely designed to give the dependents just enough to keep them coming back and voting for more. If you think government assistance is about helping people become self sufficient, you need to come down off your drug high and take a long, hard look at reality. Dependence on government is a one way ticket to totalitarianism.

Second, quit depending on big business. They aren't going to do anything other than pad their bottom line. That is what they exist for. When things are good, they'll hire people, put them to work, and make better profits. When things are bad, they lay people off to conserve profits. So when it comes to brass tacks, when things are good, they are good for big business and good for the people. When things are bad they are still good for big business, and bad for the people.

Therefore, let the people BECOME business, in and of themselves. Instead of sitting at home waiting for that nefarious and unstable jobs market to open up, MAKE YOUR OWN JOB!! Find a need and fill it. Or better yet, fond a a want - wants are more profitable. (funny how people are almost invariably willing to spend far more on their wants than their needs) Small businesses have been the backbone of our economy since we told King George to take a powder. There is a reason for that: because small business means people are doing for themselves, instead of being either dependent on government, on big business, or (shudder) both. Self reliance is always more stable than dependence - especially dependence on those whose purpose is to simply use you for their own benefit.

One thing we have today that previous generations did not. We have an infrastructure available that quite literally avails to us a WORLD market for whatever product(s) or service(s) we can dream up. It's time to go to work, people.
 
Quit depending on the government, for one. When push comes to shove, those in government are, like anyone else, most concerned with their own well being. Big, bloated, strong central government is what those in government want because it gives them the most. The "help" the big mommy government hooligans keep supporting is purposely designed to give the dependents just enough to keep them coming back and voting for more. If you think government assistance is about helping people become self sufficient, you need to come down off your drug high and take a long, hard look at reality. Dependence on government is a one way ticket to totalitarianism.

Second, quit depending on big business. They aren't going to do anything other than pad their bottom line. That is what they exist for. When things are good, they'll hire people, put them to work, and make better profits. When things are bad, they lay people off to conserve profits. So when it comes to brass tacks, when things are good, they are good for big business and good for the people. When things are bad they are still good for big business, and bad for the people.

Therefore, let the people BECOME business, in and of themselves. Instead of sitting at home waiting for that nefarious and unstable jobs market to open up, MAKE YOUR OWN JOB!! Find a need and fill it. Or better yet, fond a a want - wants are more profitable. (funny how people are almost invariably willing to spend far more on their wants than their needs) Small businesses have been the backbone of our economy since we told King George to take a powder. There is a reason for that: because small business means people are doing for themselves, instead of being either dependent on government, on big business, or (shudder) both. Self reliance is always more stable than dependence - especially dependence on those whose purpose is to simply use you for their own benefit.

One thing we have today that previous generations did not. We have an infrastructure available that quite literally avails to us a WORLD market for whatever product(s) or service(s) we can dream up. It's time to go to work, people.

good post....

i heard on the radio this week that corps supposedly made a shitload of money and profits are actually up this year and this is due to layoffs and overseas outsourcing....

couple of questions i have:

1. is this good for america? corps are purely a statutory creation that only exist due to american laws (and exist elsewhere due to laws of said nation) and enjoy american protection.

2. since jobs seem to be good for america, why is it that we give tax breaks to corps when they outsource and in a year their profits rise?
 
good post....

i heard on the radio this week that corps supposedly made a shitload of money and profits are actually up this year and this is due to layoffs and overseas outsourcing....
Like I said, when things are good, they are good for big business (corporations) and good for working people. When things are bad, they are still good for big business, because big business has the capability of reducing expenses (like labor costs) to offset reduced sales.

couple of questions i have:

1. is this good for america? corps are purely a statutory creation that only exist due to american laws (and exist elsewhere due to laws of said nation) and enjoy american protection.
Clarify. Do I think bunches of people going out and creating their own jobs would be good for America? Well, fracking DUH! But what does the legal aspect of corporateship have to do with it?

2. since jobs seem to be good for america, why is it that we give tax breaks to corps when they outsource and in a year their profits rise?
Because they were not supposed to react in that manner. (Not that it could not be predicted they would - they just were not "supposed" to react in that manner.)

Of course, I personally believe corporate income taxes just end up hurting the consumer anyway - and outsourcing would occur regardless of the tax structures. So the lower they make corporate taxes, the better off we all are. Businesses (small and uber multinationals) treat taxes like any other expense: the higher the expense, the higher the price of products. If higher prices decrease sales, that can doom small businesses, but big businesses just lay people off (ie: decrease other expenses) and keep the higher profits anyway. And if the higher prices do not decrease sales, keep the profits even more. In the end, when corporate taxes go up, the people take a hit, as consumers and as laborers. When corporate taxes come down, the people take less of a hit.

Outsourcing is a different topic - with all the FTAs that came about the last couple decades, outsourcing was going to happen no matter what was done with corporate taxes. They would have to come up with one hell of a punative tax system to make outsourcing unprofitable.
 
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