What If Trump Loses In 2020 And Refuses To Accept The Results Or Leave Office?

Calm down, I know what I'm saying isn't what you want to hear, but getting angry won't help.
who's angry?

When the Republicans decide to not remove Trump, do you honestly believe that these veterans are going to rise up and overthrow Trump?
do you honestly believe that all those 'militia' people are right wing conservatives? if so, you need to stop watching the fake news BS. There are more of us that are constitutionalists, not republicans or democrats.

Have you not been watching the hearings? There are still Democrats fighting for democratic elections.

if you're talking about schiff or nadler, you're deluded.
 
Maybe Bloomberg will be the one. I know nothing about him, but already several people have mentioned him to me. I need to learn more.

Bloomberg is an anti gun republican turned anti gun democrat. A Billionaire intent on buying a presidency to implement his antigun big government objective.
 
"(CNN)President Donald Trump's critics are increasingly focused on the question of which Democrat will challenge him for the presidency in 2020. It's an important question, but another one might be even more important: Regardless of who runs in 2020, if Trump loses, will he leave the Oval Office peacefully?

Let's start with why we need to ask this question: Trump is increasingly proving himself to be a President eager to overstep his authority. Just last week, Trump displayed his willingness to invoke unprecedented presidential power to declare a national emergency utterly without justification. This week has brought a startling report from the New York Times that, for the past two years, Trump has tried to undermine the investigations by Special Counsel Robert Mueller and other parts of the Justice Department in order to, in the words of the Times, "make the president's many legal problems go away." In light of these overreaching assertions of his own authority, it's at least plausible that Trump might attempt to cling to power in ways previously unimaginable by an American president.

Thankfully, there are four steps that key actors across the American system of governance can take to get ahead of this possibility.

Remember, when Trump was merely a private citizen running for President in 2016, he became the first presidential candidate in recent memory to refuse to commit that he'd honor the results of the election if he lost. Now, he occupies the Oval Office. He's the commander in chief of the most powerful military on Earth. If he even hints at contesting the election result in 2020, as he suggested he might in 2016, he'd be doing so not as an outsider but as a leader with the vast resources of the US government potentially at his disposal.
Trump's unrelenting assaults on the media and intelligence community, augmented by his baseless insistence on widespread voter fraud, have laid the groundwork for him to contest the election results in worrisome ways by undermining two institutions Americans would count on to validate those results.

As the 2018 midterms approached, Trump appeared to preview exactly such behavior. He tweeted that he was "very concerned that Russia will be fighting very hard to have an impact on the upcoming Election" and "pushing very hard for the Democrats." Without pointing to even a shred of analysis from the intelligence community, media reports or any other sources, Trump seemed to dangle the notion that, if the elections went too badly for the Republicans, he might allege foreign interference with the vote tally to cast doubt on the validity of the results.
In 2020, with his reelection on the line, the stakes for Trump himself are, of course, wildly bigger.
All told, there's real reason to worry here. So, what can be done now to avoid a potential constitutional crisis and ensure that the 2020 election results -- whatever they might be -- are respected and that any transfer of power occurs peacefully?
While many of us worry that President Trump has fallen woefully short in addressing foreign election interference through social media that can change American voters' minds, there's nonetheless an obvious imperative to respect the actual vote tally unless the intelligence community indicates that malicious actors have directly altered it (which would be unprecedented). Thankfully, there are four key sets of governmental actors across the United States that can commit now to certain steps that would help to isolate President Trump should he refuse to hand over power peacefully.

First is ... " (click the link to read more)

What if Trump refuses to accept defeat in 2020?

What if pigs could fly you would be covered in pig shit.
 
Yeah. I remember that. But none of those Presidents were extremists. Trump is.

In the case of the prior three presidents, I think the speculation about "he won't leave when his time is up" was more a product of disgruntled and bored ppl looking to stir up some drama among equally-bored ppl. In TRE45ON's case though, due to his routine flaunting of law and convention, it starts to take on an air of plausibility, eh?
 
They honored the system. Trump does not. Even Nixon supplied the information the impeachment committee demanded Trump will not. They all honored subpoenas, Trump does not. Clinton testified under oath. Trump will not.
Trump has said he thinks he should have more than 2 terms. No other president has said that since terms were limited.

Correct!

that's just cawacky lying as usual.
 
I give it a probability of zero percent that Donald Trump will hunker down in the white house
You're making up numbers.

after - AGAIN - losing the popular vote
Irrelevant. Not how Presidents are elected.

and this time hypothetically losing the EC in 2020.
This MUST happen in order for Trump to lose. The EC is how Presidents are elected.

I think the overwhelming preponderance of evidence is that Donald Trump is a coward, who is full of bluster, but always quick to fold in the end.
You're making shit up again.

I still marvel at the claim he made that he would keep the government shut down for years if the Democrats didn't cave on giving him his border wall.
So?

There is no threat Donald Trump can make that should be believed.

Donald Trump is one in a long line of weak cowards who are quick to puff themselves up, but just as quick to fold.
You're making shit up again.
 
In the case of the prior three presidents, I think the speculation about "he won't leave when his time is up" was more a product of disgruntled and bored ppl looking to stir up some drama among equally-bored ppl. In TRE45ON's case though, due to his routine flaunting of law and convention, it starts to take on an air of plausibility, eh?

well, that's bullshit. During Bush's first term and after the PATRIOT ACT passed, most of the liberals were all about GW/Cheney police state, gulags for liberals, suspended elections............etc. there was no 'boredom' in politics after 9/11
 
Anybody placing faith in the 'militia' has the mind of those who believe in pixies and gnomes.

so the founders believed in pixies and gnomes? they were childlike mindsets whose debates and arguments over the creation of a document defining the new federal government should be discarded because you think you 'know' better?????
 
who's angry?

You are. You resorting to insults right away.


do you honestly believe that all those 'militia' people are right wing conservatives? if so, you need to stop watching the fake news BS. There are more of us that are constitutionalists, not republicans or democrats.

I believe it. I just don't believe that any of them are going to rise up and kick out a super corrupt president, whether that president is Republican or Democrat.
When the Republicans vote to keep Trump after what he did, I'd be surprised if more than ten of these so-called "constitutionalists" do anything other than complain.



if you're talking about schiff or nadler, you're deluded.

How so?
 
insult? what insult?

You said that I was projecting my own incompetence. You should apologize, but I know you army boys don't have much honor or humility.

Anyway, when Trump is allowed to remain in office, how many Constitutionalists do you think will rise up to kick him out of the White House?


now I know you're deluded.........that just makes you exactly like the trumpers

If you can't explain why they're not fighting for democratic elections, then I don't think you really believe that.
 
OMG TRUMP is running in 2024 TOO!!!!


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ke-huckabee-impeachment-inquiry-a9244761.html

Former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee says he has been "named to head up" what would be an unconstitutional 2024 re-election campaign for Donald Trump.

Mr Huckabee, father of former White House press secretary Sarah Sanders, made the explosive claim in a pair of tweets on Thursday afternoon in which he also said the US president was "eligible" for a third term due to congressional investigations into him.

"Greatly honored to be asked to chair @realDonaldTrump re-election campaign for @POTUS in 2024. Gives me lots of time to plan!" Mr Huckabee said without providing evidence.






Relax its a joke.
 
Trump talked about more terms several times. When asked, he claimed it was a joke. Is that funny? has Trump shown any hint of a sense of humor?
Trump only cares about Trump.
 
Trump talked about more terms several times. When asked, he claimed it was a joke. Is that funny? has Trump shown any hint of a sense of humor?
Trump only cares about Trump.
The joke is on you :laugh: You look like a moron if you think anybody thinks Trump is going to serve a day over 8 years.
 
You said that I was projecting my own incompetence. You should apologize, but I know you army boys don't have much honor or humility.
are you incompetent? if so, then it's not an insult. If you aren't incompetent, explain why, regarding my scenario. and do you disrespect ALL military? or just army.

I'm a Marine, by the way.

Anyway, when Trump is allowed to remain in office, how many Constitutionalists do you think will rise up to kick him out of the White House?
more than you can conceive of, apparently.

If you can't explain why they're not fighting for democratic elections, then I don't think you really believe that.

have we lost our elections? or just your version of democratic elections?
 
This is just another method of sowing discord between the people and donald Trump. They want to give people the impression, or implication that Trump my not leave office peacefully.

This sentiment enhances the chances or success of a democratic coup because people will make the assumption that Trump will not leave peacefully, therefore he needs to be taken out of office by force to prevent that scenario from taking place.

There is no doubt in my mind, Trump will be violently removed from office before his first term is up. There will NOT be a 2020 election and I will bet my account on that.
 
are you incompetent? if so, then it's not an insult. If you aren't incompetent, explain why, regarding my scenario. and do you disrespect ALL military? or just army.

Either way, calling someone incompetent is rude. But I expect that from someone who was in the military.

more than you can conceive of, apparently.

Give me a number. Twenty? Forty? A hundred?


have we lost our elections? or just your version of democratic elections?

Well we'll probably still have elections, but they'll be Soviet-style elections where the votes don't matter. If the president is allowed to use the office to take out political opponents, then elections don't matter. And if the overton window continues moving in this direction, we'll eventually have a president who is allowed to arrest political opponents just because.
 
Either way, calling someone incompetent is rude. But I expect that from someone who was in the military.
if the truth offends you, too bad.

Give me a number. Twenty? Forty? A hundred?
That is impossible to give, given the number of constitutionalists and independents out there.

Well we'll probably still have elections, but they'll be Soviet-style elections where the votes don't matter. If the president is allowed to use the office to take out political opponents, then elections don't matter. And if the overton window continues moving in this direction, we'll eventually have a president who is allowed to arrest political opponents just because.
you're extremely naive if you think trump is the first person to ever do this.
 
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