What is Biden running on as a platform?
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cawacko
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Brown's point was the people have to know you stand for something. For Bill Clinton "it's the economy, stupid". He ran hard on that and it wasn't about tying himself to specific proposals.
2016 wasn't that long ago. Hillary was looking good in the polls and her supporters were feeling pretty confident about her pending victory. And we all saw what happened. Based on all going on today I'd feel pretty good if I were Biden as well. But as Brown brings up you still have to get people to turn out. And just saying 'I'm a Democrat and government is a force for good' when he wrote the '94 crime bill and made questionable statements on race throughout his career isn't guaranteed to turn out the voters who stayed home for Hillary.
cawacko
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Since this is a discussion board I'd point out 2004 and the whole Anybody But Bush movement and we see what that got. Now if forced to bet today I'm betting that Biden wins. A lot can happen from now until November so I reserve the right to change that but if all the young people on the streets today turn out to vote like they did for Obama then Trump is gone. But none of you on here thought he'd win in '16 either. But Biden's history doesn't appeal to all young and black people. That's your challenge.
You really suck at lying dipshit. Most of that is existing wall. That said, where is the check from Mexico dumbass?
Since you are obviously pretty ignorant, let me repeat: Where is the check from MEXICO?????
Let me guess, you were stupid enough to believe the renegotiated NAFTA crap too....lol
Biden could always run on a platform of economic recovery that we experienced after 8 years of Bush 43 debacle.
That would be the same great economy that tRump loves to take credit for, but has since eroded from his Covid incompetence.
That should just about do it........)
That would be the same great economy that tRump loves to take credit for, but has since eroded from his Covid incompetence.
That should just about do it........)
I suspect that no matter who was running, taking care of Corona and the economy will be huge issues. So will dealing with BLM. Revamping the police will be another. Nobody can ignore those problems. How the Dem party chooses to address those issues is not known until the convention. Biden can and will talk about them before the convention. He already has. The convention ends Aug. 20.
All Biden has to do is appear half human. Couple that with tRump's penchant for self-destruction and you have a winning strategy.
Has nobody on this board heard him talk about these problems? I have seen him interviewed several times. He is articulate and shows real knowledge.
cawacko
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You act like the party platform is a constitution that the Presidential nominee must resort to while in office. The party's put out a platform at their convention as a statement of values but it is nothing more than that. Have you ever heard during a Presidential primary debate a candidate say "I can't answer that question until the party puts out its platform?" Have you ever heard a President in office say "i'm making this decision for our country based on the platform our party put out during its convention"?
That's no to both. I can understand someone young and new to this being confused but not someone who has followed politics.
As I noted, Biden does stand for something, as he has pretty much established that he offers a break great away from the divisiveness and orchestrated anger of the last three and half years.
And as far as the voting block you are implying, again, Trump being Trump in those matters will go a long way
Yes, I have. He comes across as warm and sincere. Very much different than how both tRump and Hillary projected a "cold" and "calculating" demeanor.
That said, Biden can still take a very "measured" approach and watch tRump continue to self destruct.
It is a point, but I still think you are underestimating the “anybody but Trump” variable, especially among young and Black people. This is not 2004, Bush isn’t Trump, and today is closer to 2016, except this time we don’t have an either or choice regarding the least desirable candidate. Haven’t you noticed that Trump unsuccessfully has been been attempting to portray Biden as crooked and evil, which is a throw back to his 2016 campaign
cawacko
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In the liberal world Bush was pretty much evil personified circa 2004. Everything was "ABB". I remember it well. Like I said, if I had to pick today I think Biden will win (handily). But Hillary was this smart/brilliant woman with amazing experience who was going to crush Trump in the debates and waltz into the Presidency. We see how that turned out and many people are saying the same thing about Biden that they did Hillary.
No, I do not act like that. The premise of the thread was about Biden running on a platform. The platform comes in Aug. The candidate has great input on the platform but does not dictate it. Biden is showing what issues he is interested in if you ever listen to him.
Every debate, trump lost points. She crushed him. But there is more. The righty hated CNN and MSNBC covered every single Trump rally from beginning to end, They made him president and he is not grateful. They gave him mega millions of free ads. They seem to have learned their lessons. Of course, this disastrous rally was harmful to Trump's campaign. He thought he could step into footprints he left 4 years ago. He does not fit n them anymore.
cawacko
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They cover and talk about the guy 24/7. Doesn't look like they learned their lesson huh?
cawacko
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No one gives two sh*ts about party platforms other than party insiders. The premise of the thread is what does Biden stand for/what is he running on. Not a difficult concept to understand.
Everybody is completely consumed by the platform and nail it to the walls and worship it. Biden has made his stances clear. Try listening.https://www.vox.com/2016/7/12/12060358/political-science-of-platforms
T. A. Gardner
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So, according to this platforms really don't matter. Well, the way I see it is this:
1. The Democrat party is now a party of Progressive Leftists.
2. Progressive Leftists had totally screwed every nation they got in control of up EVER.
3. Therefore, don't put Progressive Leftists in charge of ANYTHING.
4. Joe Biden being elected gives control of the executive branch of the US government to Progressive Leftists.
5. That means we're screwed.
6. I don't want to be screwed.
7. Trump is a lot of negative things but he is not a Progressive Leftist.
8. Therefore, I should vote against Joe Biden.
gfm7175
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Biden probably forgot what it was...