What is the difference between slaves on a plantation....

Stargazer said:
and blacks who blindly vote for Democrats?

What does a slave-owner have to provide, free, for his slaves?

1. Free Housing.
2. Free Food.
3. Free Healthcare
4. A menial education sufficient to the task he requires the slave to perform.

What is the one thing a slave owner required of his slaves?

1. Unquestioning Loyalty.

What do the democrats always promise to provide, free, to blacks?

1. Free Housing.
2. Free Food.
3. Free healthcare
4. A free menial education, sufficient to get them to the voting booth.

What is the one thing Democrats require of their constituents?

1. Unquestioning Loyalty.

The only question black democrats have to ask themselves is:

Who’s your massa now?

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The Democrat Party survives because it keeps blacks poor and dependent on Democrat hand-outs to survive.

Democrats do something similar with gays: they keep us in check by scaring gays into believing Republicans are evil and want to kill us, so the only protection we have is to vote Democrat, Democrat, Democrat.

Democrats keep Hispanics under control by pushing Spanish as much as possible, so Hispanics never learn English and don’t progress as much in society.

Women are kept in line by Democrats though cultural wedge issues like abortion, where, once again, people are convinced to vote against their own economic best interests because Democrats create boogeymen to scare them into believing conservatives are evil and want to harm them or take away their rights.

If even one of the groups above could be reasoned with, and would actually see what the Democrat Party does to them, the fragile identity-bloc coalition that makes up the Democrat Paty would collapse on itself.

If you blindly vote Democrat, year after year, without ever asking what you REALLY get out of it, you are either a slave or a damn fool.

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All truthful of course, but what else should we expect from the neo-communist? The Democrats entire political agenda is based in bribery for power.

However why should we exempt the Republicans from their share of the responsibility? Haven’t Republicans furthered the Democrat’s agenda every time Republicans had the power? If they haven’t, how come we had growth in the cost of every socialist federal program during every Republican control of the federal government? How come Republicans like the Democrats never really cut or eliminate anything the federal government does? How come we always see rising deficits and a rising national debt when the Republicans are in control? What about the Republicans boogiemen? You know all of those foreign countries that wish us harm that Republicans always want to protect us from like North Korea, Iraq, Afghanistan and Iran? What about all of those undeclared unconstitutional wars the Republicans allow Republican Presidents to start that they never pay for? What about the Military Industrial Complex and World Police Force that Republicans always waste taxpayer’s money on? What about the Republicans failed insane violent Drug War? What about the Republicans “Faith Based Initiative, Prescription Drugs For Seniors and the unconstitutional Patriot Act?” What about all of those Republican subsidies for corporations and crony capitalism and corporate bailouts? What about the financial economic enslavement and debt to China that Republicans have “forced” on to the taxpayers of this nation? What about all of those idiot Republican voters that encourage and sanctify the Republican agenda with Republican votes? Should we ever expect anything different from the neo-fascist Republicans?

Is there any real difference between Democrats and Republicans?

“Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, its force like fire a troublesome servant and a fearful master, never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible actions.” (George Washington)
 
Classic Liberal said:
All truthful of course, but what else should we expect from the neo-communist? The Democrats entire political agenda is based in bribery for power.

However why should we exempt the Republicans from their share of the responsibility? Haven’t Republicans furthered the Democrat’s agenda every time Republicans had the power? If they haven’t, how come we had growth in the cost of every socialist federal program during every Republican control of the federal government? How come Republicans like the Democrats never really cut or eliminate anything the federal government does? How come we always see rising deficits and a rising national debt when the Republicans are in control? What about the Republicans boogiemen? You know all of those foreign countries that wish us harm that Republicans always want to protect us from like North Korea, Iraq, Afghanistan and Iran? What about all of those undeclared unconstitutional wars the Republicans allow Republican Presidents to start that they never pay for? What about the Military Industrial Complex and World Police Force that Republicans always waste taxpayer’s money on? What about the Republicans failed insane violent Drug War? What about the Republicans “Faith Based Initiative, Prescription Drugs For Seniors and the unconstitutional Patriot Act?” What about all of those Republican subsidies for corporations and crony capitalism and corporate bailouts? What about the financial economic enslavement and debt to China that Republicans have “forced” on to the taxpayers of this nation? What about all of those idiot Republican voters that encourage and sanctify the Republican agenda with Republican votes? Should we ever expect anything different from the neo-fascist Republicans?

Is there any real difference between Democrats and Republicans?

“Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, its force like fire a troublesome servant and a fearful master, never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible actions.” (George Washington)
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you are of course 1000% correct
 
Expecting the Democrats or Republicans to protect freedom is like expecting to find that pony that left horse shit in your Christmas stocking.
 
Obviously, Democrats are much better masters. There used to be a work requirement for "free stuff" which wasn't really free and has since been waived.
 
Howey said:
**sniff**

**sniff**

Them's some smelly socks there...
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Not sure what that means, except perhaps for smelly socks. Getting your mother to do your laundry on more regularly might help, but I still don't see how that is relative to my post.
 
Stargazer said:
Being enslaved to vote for scraps someone may throw you from their table is not freedom, only the appearance of it.
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No one is enslaved to vote. If they choose to vote that way to continue their benefits, especially if the benefits are a trade for freedoms, it is still a freedom to choose.

The slaves had no such choice.
 
WinterBorn said:
No one is enslaved to vote. If they choose to vote that way to continue their benefits, especially if the benefits are a trade for freedoms, it is still a freedom to choose.

The slaves had no such choice.
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Thank you. It's a stupid fvcking analogy.
 
WinterBorn said:
No one is enslaved to vote. If they choose to vote that way to continue their benefits, especially if the benefits are a trade for freedoms, it is still a freedom to choose.

The slaves had no such choice.
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Being a slave to the govt is not freedom. The two cannot be conflated. Living life as a dog is not freedom, not true freedom anyway, only the mirage of such.
 
Stargazer said:
Being a slave to the govt is not freedom. The two cannot be conflated. Living life as a dog is not freedom, not true freedom anyway, only the mirage of such.
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The question was not whether being enslaved to the gov't is freedom. The question was what is the difference between slaves on a plantation and blacks who vote for democrat.

As I said, the difference is the freedom to CHOOSE. The blacks who receive the benefits that you listed and vote democrat for that reason, are CHOOSING to do so. The slaves had no choice whatsoever.
 
Stargazer said:
It's apt, hence your knickers being in a knot over it.
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It is not an apt analogy.

On the one hand people were captured by force and shipped out to a life of servitude without any choice at all. On the other hand people vote for a party in order to continue to receive benefits. They have the choice to do so. They also have the choice to not vote, or to vote republican, or to work hard and become wealthy, successful people on their own.
 
Stargazer said:
It's apt, hence your knickers being in a knot over it.
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Me thinking its stupid has nothing to do with my knickers being in a knot. (Well actually they are but it's over USC's performance today not your comment. Your comment was just dumb.)
 
WinterBorn said:
The question was not whether being enslaved to the gov't is freedom. The question was what is the difference between slaves on a plantation and blacks who vote for democrat.

As I said, the difference is the freedom to CHOOSE. The blacks who receive the benefits that you listed and vote democrat for that reason, are CHOOSING to do so. The slaves had no choice whatsoever.
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The politicians who strive to keep people mired in poverty are modern day slave masters.

You can parse words and take it to the extreme, but you get the gist. ;)
 
WinterBorn said:
It is not an apt analogy.

On the one hand people were captured by force and shipped out to a life of servitude without any choice at all. On the other hand people vote for a party in order to continue to receive benefits. They have the choice to do so. They also have the choice to not vote, or to vote republican, or to work hard and become wealthy, successful people on their own.
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Oh for God's sake, keeping people down, dumb and dependent in order to get votes is not freedom, it's modern day slavery.

Call it whatever you will. You can roll a turd in sugar and call it candy, but that is only the appearance. Shit is still inside.
 
Stargazer said:
The politicians who strive to keep people mired in poverty are modern day slave masters.

You can parse words and take it to the extreme, but you get the gist. ;)
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If you want to try and make the point that politicians are hurting certain ethnic groups by providing too many benefits, you can do that easily.

To try and make the case that those people have no freedom to choose or that they are the same as slaves on a plantation is ridiculous. I am not parsing words when I say that any black in this country can make something of himself and NOT be satisfied with scraps from someone else's table. They have a choice that slaves did not have. They also have freedoms that slaves did not have.
 
Stargazer said:
Oh for God's sake, keeping people down, dumb and dependent in order to get votes is not freedom, it's modern day slavery.

Call it whatever you will. You can roll a turd in sugar and call it candy, but that is only the appearance. Shit is still inside.
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No, you can try and deny that people have choices if you want. But that does not change the fact that they are free to choice.

Suppose a black kid is born in Harlem and then raised in the South Bronx, by immgrant parents. Is he enslaved? Or does he have a choice in his future? Suppose this kid goes to public school in the South Bronx. Probably not the best education. But are you claiming he has no choice in how his live will be??

A slave born anywhere in the USA had no choice whatsoever.

But General Colin Powell came from some of the worst ghettos in this country and CHOSE to achieve and accomplish.

One of the cornerstones of conservatism is that people ae responsible for their lives. Now here you want to try and argue that blacks in this country to not have a choice? They have no freedom?

The shit is inside your argument. The analogy is infantile at best.
 
cawacko said:
Me thinking its stupid has nothing to do with my knickers being in a knot. (Well actually they are but it's over USC's performance today not your comment. Your comment was just dumb.)
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Yeah, the game today was a pretty bad ending to a surprisingly bad season. USC started at #1 with Barkley owning the Heisman.
 
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