What is the purpose of government?

[BidenPresident]

Aristotle said “the object of a state is the good life” (Politics;1280b39).

If the purpose of government is not to make people good, then what is it?

 

[Jack]

Law & Order.

 

[BidenPresident]

Law & Order.

Not a bad reason. But that could exist is a fascist state.

 

[Jack]

Not a bad reason. But that could exist is a fascist state.

Yes. Theocracies. Dictatorships. Military Juntas. Democracies. All with a sense of law and order.

 

[Legion]

Aristotle said “the object of a state is the good life” (Politics;1280b39). If the purpose of government is not to make people good, then what is it?

It's defined in our Constitution, isn't it?

 

[Celticguy]

It's defined in our Constitution, isn't it?

the national govt certainly.

any proper answer will require definitions for local, state and national govts.

 

[BidenPresident]

the national govt certainly.

any proper answer will require definitions for local, state and national govts.

Sure, but what is the purpose of any government?

 

[Legion]

the national govt certainly. any proper answer will require definitions for local, state and national govts.

I'm fairly certain that those all follow the US Constitution, at least in our country.

 

[Celticguy]

Sure, but what is the purpose of any government?

in simplest terms, to manage the affairs of the citizens. obviously the particulars vary by jurisdiction.

a few things ring across all levels, law and order for example.

 

[BidenPresident]

in simplest terms, to manage the affairs of the citizens. obviously the particulars vary by jurisdiction.

a few things ring across all levels, law and order for example.

If government is just managing, who sets the agenda?

 

[Celticguy]

I'm fairly certain that those all follow the US Constitution, at least in our country.

in my reading it clarifies what the federal govt is intended to do AND what it is NOT to do (such as things intended to be addressed by the several states).

in the case of rights, yes those are protected at all levels.

 

[Celticguy]

If government is just managing, who sets the agenda?

the citizens, of course.

 

[BidenPresident]

the citizens, of course.

Citizens decide what their country will be? By what standard?

 

[Hawkeye10]

Aristotle said “the object of a state is the good life” (Politics;1280b39).

If the purpose of government is not to make people good, then what is it?

What ever the people want it to be.

 

[Legion]

in my reading it clarifies what the federal govt is intended to do AND what it is NOT to do (such as things intended to be addressed by the several states). in the case of rights, yes those are protected at all levels.

There you go.

Any abrogation of that principle requires a new mandate by popular acclaim.

The purpose is expressed in the preamble to the Constitution: ''We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ...


https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CDOC-108hdoc94/pdf/CDOC-108hdoc94.pdf

 

[BidenPresident]

What ever the people want it to be.

So if people want totalitarianism that would be good?

 

[Celticguy]

Citizens decide what their country will be? By what standard?

yes, of course. you recall right here in America they had a constitutional convention to do just that.

by what standards ? the ones agreed upon by the folks mentioned above and ratified by the states.

 

[Hawkeye10]

So if people want totalitarianism that would be good?

I dont live in your fantasy Universe.

 

[BidenPresident]

yes, of course. you recall right here in America they had a constitutional convention to do just that.

by what standards ? the ones agreed upon by the folks mentioned above and ratified by the states.

Seems vague. That would allow fascism as legitimate or any totalitarianism.

 

[BidenPresident]

I dont live in your fantasy Universe.

Get lost bozo.