What is the purpose of government?

Dutch Uncle said:
Anything involving an Amendment would be impossible in today's toxic environment. People smarter than me would have to figure it out and/or monitor it. Reagan was a model of a President who admitted he didn't know everything but was smart enough to surround himself with people who did. GHW Bush did the same. After that it went downhill and hitting bottom under the last administration. I'm not really sure if the Biden administration or the Democrats have what it takes to lift us off the bottom. The Republicans are zero help.
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I don't understand it very well, but I don't think it is desirable or would have public support. What economic groups would be represented in different districts?
 
Flash said:
I don't understand it very well, but I don't think it is desirable or would have public support. What economic groups would be represented in different districts?
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The focus would be to develop the citizens. Right now the focus is to develop property and boot out the poor. Focusing on developing the poor would produce tax revenue, not tax liabilities.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
The focus would be to develop the citizens. Right now the focus is to develop property and boot out the poor. Focusing on developing the poor would produce tax revenue, not tax liabilities.
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How is that connected to drawing district lines for representation?
 
Flash said:
How is that connected to drawing district lines for representation?
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Independent neutral commission would use economic development criteria to determine the lines. I'd like rules such as "no thin lines, only a single blob".
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Corrupt and ineffectual. When We, the People, settle for politicians who are corrupt or support corrupt policies, then we only have ourselves to blame.

Settling for the lesser of two evils is a vote for evil. That's not working, IMO.
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you actively support corruption and lie all day, lie bag.

you act like theres no conflict with big pharma getting immunity from prosecution, but then still act like you're some high minded idealist.

you're a total fraud of a human being.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Independent neutral commission would use economic development criteria to determine the lines. I'd like rules such as "no thin lines, only a single blob".
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So wealthy areas would represent some districts and poor areas would represent other districts? I don't understand how that changes anything if voters are electing the same people as before.
 
AssHatZombie said:
you actively support corruption and lie all day, lie bag.

you act like theres no conflict with big pharma getting immunity from prosecution, but then still act like you're some high minded idealist.

you're a total fraud of a human being.
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“We were somewhere around Barstow on the edge of the desert when the drugs began to take hold. I remember saying something like "I feel a bit lightheaded; maybe you should drive...." And suddenly there was a terrible roar all around us and the sky was full of what looked like huge bats, all swooping and screeching and diving around the car, which was going about a hundred miles an hour with the top down to Las Vegas”
 
Flash said:
So wealthy areas would represent some districts and poor areas would represent other districts? I don't understand how that changes anything if voters are electing the same people as before.
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I was thinking of a higher level where districts would be analyzed for growth.

No worries, like you, I doubt the Democrats or Republicans are interested in anyone who votes against them.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Corrupt and ineffectual. When We, the People, settle for politicians who are corrupt or support corrupt policies, then we only have ourselves to blame.

Settling for the lesser of two evils is a vote for evil. That's not working, IMO.
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When everything you see is evil, you are in your own prison.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
“We were somewhere around Barstow on the edge of the desert when the drugs began to take hold. I remember saying something like "I feel a bit lightheaded; maybe you should drive...." And suddenly there was a terrible roar all around us and the sky was full of what looked like huge bats, all swooping and screeching and diving around the car, which was going about a hundred miles an hour with the top down to Las Vegas”
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I prefer 'on the road'.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
The focus would be to develop the citizens. Right now the focus is to develop property and boot out the poor. Focusing on developing the poor would produce tax revenue, not tax liabilities.
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BidenPresident said:
Aristotle said “the object of a state is the good life” (Politics;1280b39).

If the purpose of government is not to make people good, then what is it?
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I like the way the US Constitution frames it:

"to establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity."
 
Dutch Uncle said:
I was thinking of a higher level where districts would be analyzed for growth.

No worries, like you, I doubt the Democrats or Republicans are interested in anyone who votes against them.
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what's your feeling on the kelo decision?

In 2005, the United States Supreme Court decided the landmark case of Kelo v. New London. In a 5-4 decision delivered by Justice Stevens, the Supreme Court ruled that the government's seizure and transfer of private property to a private redevelopment company did not violate the 5th Amendment's taking clause.


This is definitely fascism.
 
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