What Taxing the Rich Could Yield

A few things:

1. Back before Reagan, the tax burden was far more equitable and the middle and lower classes paid a larger share of the burden. But then you morons cut taxes, which resulted in people suddenly not paying any taxes, and the burden becoming less equitable.

2. While they pay 55% of the income taxes, the amount they pay is half of what it was before Reagan. So you are trying to lead people to a false conclusion by pretending that because they pay a larger share (completely your fault, by the way, for cutting taxes in the first place), that it's somehow unfair, but the part you leave out is that the amount they pay is about half of what they used to since their rate is about half of what it was in 1980.

3. When you make lazy, bullshit arguments like this, be aware of your flank because they're so easily smacked down, and the problem is put right back on you.

4. If you're crying crocodile tears over the burden the wealthy pay while ignoring the fact that their rate is basically half of what it used to be, then you're a duplicitous, lying piece of shit who deserves no respect. Ever.

Full stop.

you really are stupid, I'll be damn
 
Nah...just put the emphasis in because it is allowed...and it is fun.




I also do not give a rat's ass how much wealth someone has if they earned it honestly.

But...

...1) LOTS of that money has not been earned honestly...it was earned dishonestly or questionably and passed on from generation to generation.

...2) when there are massive domestic projects that need doing...and there are people unable to compete in this fucking dog eat dog economic system we have...I want to see EVERYONE WITH SUFFICIENT and ALL DOMESTIC PROJECTS THAT NEED DOING being done...

...before we have the kinds of disparity we have now.

After those two goals are met...the disparity can gain again.

If we continue down the road we are on...we are heading for the kind of corrections that took place in late 18th century France and early 20th century Russia.

Right now the top 1% of Americans own 35% of the total wealth. The top 20% of Americans own 85% of the wealth. The bottom 80% own only 15% of the wealth. And the wealth gap is rising whether the government is dominated by Democrats or Republicans.

We now have decent, hard-working people who work several jobs and are barely able to make ends meet...always fearful of that one incident that will put them in abject poverty.

Apparently assholes like you think that the top 20% did so much of the work that was needed to make our nation what it is, that they deserve the 85% of the wealth...and the bottom 80% are so lazy and worthless that having 15% of the wealth is reasonable.

Okay...but I think THOSE ASSHOLES ARE NOTHING BUT FUCKING BARBARIC MONSTERS WHO SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO LIVE AMONG HUMANS.

Other than that...I hope your Christmas holiday went well. ;)





No, no, no. I am just NOT a jerk-off American conservative savage, barbaric, sub-human piece of shit willing to put up with the kind of nonsense people like you embrace.

No envy at all...but I suspect someone like you could never accept that.

Okay. Live with your delusion.

Just another worthless leftist screed

What you earn isn’t a reflection of how hard you work. Never has been.
 
you really are stupid, I'll be damn

What's sad about you is that you just sit there and snipe because you know you cannot hang in a debate with me.

Your judgment is so poor, your instincts are so bad, your character so rotten, that you got conned by a reality TV show host with stupid hair and a fake orange tan.
 
Just another worthless leftist screed

What you earn isn’t a reflection of how hard you work. Never has been.

You are a fucking moron, IHA.

For you...and the other fucking American conservative morons who do not see what is happening...

...I ask:

What would it take for you to see the disparity as a major problem?

Would .01% of the people owning 75% of the wealth of the nation be enough?

Would 5% owning 90% of the wealth be enough?

Would 20% owning 90% of the wealth be enough?

Just how bad would things have to get for you idiots to even SEE that the problem exists?
 
Why is ones that obviously have less or no money (most likely due to lack of skills to make it or just too fucking lazy) that demand those that did get ahead pay more? Screw you. You live in the is country, you use its resources, pay your fair share of taxes. I do not care how much or how little you make.
 
It's important that Flash establish this as a given because the rest of his argument completely falls apart without this straw man.

We don't believe everyone who became wealthy cheated...but many of them did cheat, and many others exploit the system in order to maintain the status quo.

You just proved my "false" straw man is in fact an accurate description:

"We don't believe everyone who became wealthy cheated...but many of them did cheat, and many others exploit the system in order to maintain the status quo."

To say "everyone" did not cheat but "many" did proves the point--that liberals think "many" people got rich from cheating. Cheating explains why some are rich and others are not. It gives them another group to dislike and blame for any problems.
 
Kind of emotional aren’t you Frankie? I don’t care how much wealth someone has if they earned it honestly and neither should you

But you are greedy and you want OPM. You like many despots hide behind the poor and needy to disguise your envy

Our JPP liberal complainers seem to be upset that they've never reached the monetary goals they hoped for and now want anyone who was able to succeed, to be PUNISHED.

Since they like to whine about how business owners only prosper on the backs of the employees, I wonder why liberals haven't banded together and started businesses where they can treat their employees the way they feel that they need to be treated.

In other words, since they are so knowledgeable; why don't they put their money where their mouths are??

:facepalm:
 
You just proved my "false" straw man is in fact an accurate description:

"We don't believe everyone who became wealthy cheated...but many of them did cheat, and many others exploit the system in order to maintain the status quo."

To say "everyone" did not cheat but "many" did proves the point--that liberals think "many" people got rich from cheating. Cheating explains why some are rich and others are not. It gives them another group to dislike and blame for any problems.

Give it a fucking break, Flash. Stop being such a sucker.

Why not answer that question I asked up above?

I'd really be interested in a few of you American conservative geniuses answering. What would it take?
 
You just proved my "false" straw many is in fact an accurate description

So now comes the part of the debate where you try and move the goalposts, isn't it?

Here's what you said:

Liberals are envious and want to believe anyone who is wealthy had to cheat to get their money.

ANYONE

So right away, you make a false argument, and in your defense of that false argument, you make another false argument.

The fact is that your character is so rotten to the core, that all you can do is make these kinds of bullshit arguments.

I believe you don't even know what it's like to be honest anymore.

I think you've been so dishonest for so long that operating in bad faith is habitual with you. You don't know any other way to act. It's become ingrained in your personality.

You cannot operate without acting in bad faith...your mind simply won't let you.
 
Our JPP liberal complainers seem to be upset that they've never reached the monetary goals they hoped for and now want anyone who was able to succeed, to be PUNISHED.

Since they like to whine about how business owners only prosper on the backs of the employees, I wonder why liberals haven't banded together and started businesses where they can treat their employees the way they feel that they need to be treated.

In other words, since they are so knowledgeable; why don't they put their money where their mouths are??

:facepalm:

NO one is asking for anyone to be punished.

We are asking to head of a situation that has caused huge upheavals in other societies at other times.

So I ask you to answer the question I posed above.

What would it take to finally wake you up?
 
No, I mean you are outclassed and can't defend your own shitty core beliefs, so you should just fucking die rather than pollute discourse.

You offer nothing, you bring nothing to the table, what is the point of you?

So you're "polluting" the discourse.

What a Freudian slip and so ironic. :good4u:
 
"We don't believe everyone who became wealthy cheated...but many of them did cheat, and many others exploit the system in order to maintain the status quo."

To say "everyone" did not cheat but "many" did proves the point--that liberals think "many" people got rich from cheating. Cheating explains why some are rich and others are not. It gives them another group to dislike and blame for any problems.

Here's what you said that prompted my response:

Liberals are envious and want to believe anyone who is wealthy had to cheat to get their money

Now within the context of this debate, you end up looking like a shameful asshole who made a straw man argument, and is now trying to shift the goalposts so the straw man is in the end zone.

You're worthless.
 
No one is stopping anyone else from giving their money to whomever you choose. But you won't do it. You want someone else to. That's the embarrassing facts of the matter.
 
Give it a fucking break, Flash. Stop being such a sucker.

Why not answer that question I asked up above?

I'd really be interested in a few of you American conservative geniuses answering. What would it take?

He says all liberals think anyone who attained wealth cheated.

I said that liberals don't believe everyone who attained wealth cheated, but that many did.

He takes that as affirmation of his straw man when it completely says the opposite.

Now he's just trying to shift the goalposts so he doesn't have to admit he's full of shit. Because if he admitted that, he might also have to admit that what he believes is full of shit. And if he admitted that, he'd have to admit his judgment and instincts aren't as good as he wants people to think.

He's a selfish asshole.
 
What's sad about you is that you just sit there and snipe because you know you cannot hang in a debate with me.

Your judgment is so poor, your instincts are so bad, your character so rotten, that you got conned by a reality TV show host with stupid hair and a fake orange tan.

But you're not engaged in a "debate"; because all you've done, besides being an echo of yourself, is bitch and moan.

You probably blame Trump, for your failure to be in and have a relationship with another person. :palm:
 
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