What's the greatest thing about communism?

What's the greatest thing about communism?

  • The way it makes everything equal

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • The way it's good for the economy

    Votes: 1 7.7%

  • Following, man

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Conforming to society

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Freeing the proles from their capitalist masters

    Votes: 1 7.7%

  • Ron Paul

    Votes: 11 84.6%
  • Total voters
    13
finally the capitalism that brings them out of such squalor

Not sure if that's true. Capitalism in India for example, has only lifted a very small demograhic whilst the rest remain in absolute poverty.

The rising tide analogy rarely reveals itself in reality.....
 
AnyOldIron said:
With each successive failure it seems that it becomes more like a religion than a realistic form of centralized government.

Communism, yes, but I was referring to centralised government...

Communism fails because it relies to heavily on the existence of human virtues that few humans possess. We'd need to be all like Jesus.

However Marx makes more than vaild points in his critique of capitalism, points that are still relevant today....

Capitalism fails on a daily basis too...
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The thread is about communism. You attempt to digress into other areas that are incomparable. I never stated that centralized government as a whole is a failure. I stated that communism spectacularly fails when it reaches that level.
 
AnyOldIron said:
finally the capitalism that brings them out of such squalor

Not sure if that's true. Capitalism in India for example, has only lifted a very small demograhic whilst the rest remain in absolute poverty.

The rising tide analogy rarely reveals itself in reality.....
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When were they communist?

You keep missing the main subject of the thread.

Even in China it is capitalism that brings some of them out of their squalor and into the modern age. Your attempt to defend communism with examples that are not part of communism is futile and pointless and entirely built on the strawman fallacy.

Please look back and point out where I said that Capitalism as a form of government is full of win....
 
Cypress said:
Communism often has worked on small scales, it is when it becomes a centralized state government where if fails so miserably.


Communism became wound up with totalitarianism.

Its a failed ideology, that doesn't work in the real world. Much like libertariansim :cool:
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Show me an example of where Libertarianism failed in the real world.
And you better not just say 19th century industrial America, because we are talking comparitively here and back in 1875, America was very Libertarian and the premiere choice for immigrants coming from all over the world with many different systems of government.
 
Libertarianism has not had many opportunities since it is somewhat contrary to human nature and societial structures.
 
uscitizen said:
Libertarianism has not had many opportunities since it is somewhat contrary to human nature and societial structures.
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Libertarianism is difficult to implement as people consistently prefer to give up some liberties for security. Where governments that were close to libertarianism were set up, the consistent reality was toward more centralized government as people chose to give up liberties for security.
 
Damocles said:
Libertarianism is difficult to implement as people consistently prefer to give up some liberties for security. Where governments that were close to libertarianism were set up, the consistent reality was toward more centralized government as people chose to give up liberties for security.
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Yep, perhaps mankind will one day progress far enough for libertaniarism to become common, butt until then it is stupit and will not work.
 
uscitizen said:
Libertarianism has not had many opportunities since it is somewhat contrary to human nature and societial structures.
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That's the smartest thing you've ever posted, and a very astute observation.

Man, used to view life and survival as being tied to living in a group. We are slowly evolving away from that primitive tribal mindset and towards allowing people individual freedom to chart their own course in life.
There are those who cling to using government to force individuals to give up pieces of their own earned prosperity for the "good" of the pack, but their time is ticking and there will hopefully be more oppurtunities for Libertarianism to have a shot.
 
Darla said:
I voted for him on this one.
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Yes, that's the greatest thing about this thread. Libertarians just have a knee-jerk reaction to push "Ron Paul", and Liberals do it to insult Ron Paul.

Dano, the sole conservative, doesn't have much to say about any of it.
 
the greatest thing about communism is it produces slave labor goods so Americans can buy cheap junk at walmart. If republicons still hated communism like they used to claim, we wouldn't have such a huge trade imbalance in this country. Face it right wingers, you love communism.
 
Crashk said:
the greatest thing about communism is it produces slave labor goods so Americans can buy cheap junk at walmart. If republicons still hated communism like they used to claim, we wouldn't have such a huge trade imbalance in this country. Face it right wingers, you love communism.
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You're an idiot.

The trade imbalance is due to the debt - that's FACT, not any of your protectionist garbage thought.
 
China is far from "Communist". The Communist party has the power, and monopolizes it much like the duopoly here, but they are not a communist country. They're a totlitarian country, but not Marxist Communist.

No country is truly communist. There's always a capatilist underbelly to the economy, it just depends on how hard the regime in power is going to come down on it.
 
Watermark said:
You're an idiot.

The trade imbalance is due to the debt - that's FACT, not any of your protectionist garbage thought.
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Umm much of the trade imbalance is a combination of Americans liking to buy cheap stuff and American corporations liking to make more profit.

sure bl;ame it on something else, but we all are pretty much to blame for the China trade debacle.
 
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