When They Took Fluoride Out of the Water Like RFK Jr. Wants to Do Everywhere, People's Teeth Started Rotting Out of Their Heads

Since fluoride mouthwashes and gels are available, why does the left insist that the stuff be added to tap water that people can't avoid using unless they have an expensive water treatment system in their home?

Fluoride-free toothpastes and mouthwashes are also available.

Maybe "my body, my choice" isn't really something the left believes in.
 
signalmankenneth said:
I hope the senate vote's no to this crackpot RFK Jr. for HHS?!!

Our next potential leader of US health policy, Robert F. Kennedy Jr, wants to ban adding fluoride to public drinking water — a practice that experts agree has remarkably elevated teeth health for millions of Americans at little cost.

In a country where many people don't have access to dental care, a widespread crackdown on this naturally occurring mineral could be a disaster. To see how, we turn to the sobering case of Juneau, a city in Alaska that voted to stop fluoridating its water in 2007, citing many of the same fears that RFK touts today.

In a 2018 study published in the journal BMC Oral Health, researchers examined the dental records of adolescents in the Alaska community who sought Medicaid dental care in the years surrounding either side of the ban.

They divided them into two treatment groups: a 2003 group, when public drinking water had optimal levels of fluoride, and a 2012 group, well after the fluoride ban.

The results were damning. On average, the 2012 group had a significantly higher number of cavity-related procedures for adolescents than the 2003 group. Similarly, the odds of someone 18 years-old or younger undergoing the same type of procedure was 25 percent higher in 2012.

Children born after the fluoride ban were the hardest hit age group, receiving not only the most tooth decay treatments, but also having the most expensive treatments on average.

Additionally on the economic side of things, the researchers found that dental care costs for adolescents soared by 73 percent as a result of the fluoride policy, even after adjusting for inflation. In sum, it seems clear cut that removing fluoride caused tooth rot to surge — and with it, medical costs.

Today, nearly three-quarters of the US population has access to fluoridated water, reducing tooth decay in children and adults by an estimated 25 percent. The US Centers for Disease Control has hailed fluoridation as one of the top ten greatest public health interventions in history.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/took-fluoride-water-rfk-jr-120017664.html

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Honestly, the best person to weigh in on this is Anonymoose.
 
Goyboy said:
There are probably other ways do get the same results without poisoning our entire endocrine system.
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Sorry for the late response Goy. Life happens. They’re not poisoning our entire endocrine system. Not by water fluoridation alone. EPA has set water fluoridation limits at a maximum of 0.7 mg/L (0.7 ppm). Multiple studies have shown that fluoride neorotoxic and endocrine disruption do not occur until an exposure of 1.5-3.0 mg/kg body weight is reached.

There have been a lot of studies showing that fluoride levels at 0.7 mg/L in water are not associated with fertility, pregnancy or birth outcomes nor is it associated with fluorosis, neurotoxicity, endocrine disruption or lowering IQ’s.

Having said that there are other forms of exposure to fluorides. If you brush your teeth twice a day with toothpaste you’re absorbing 0.9 mg/L. More than what is recommended for water. Other common sources of fluoride exposure are tea, which is ironic for commercially packaged tea as the tea it self has 1-4 ppm fluoride and the plastic bottles are made from epoxy resin (epichlohydryn) which is another confirmed endocrine disrupter. Many pharmaceuticals are made of organofluoride compounds that metabolize into inorganic fluorides. Fluorides are also used commonly in pesticides.

So this is a situation not unlike Sodium Chloride (table salt) in which we know that to little NaCl is detrimental to human health and to much is detrimental to your health.

The same is true here. We know what levels of fluoride exposure is to much or to little for good health and what is needed for good health.

The real problem is how does a regulatory body regulate exposure when, as I’ve just shown, there’s are so many routes of exposure and cross contamination?

Well you’re going to make the decision on what does the greatest good and the least harm. My point being is this is a complicated issue with real difficult decisions to be made and no matter what you decide you’re going to piss someone off.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
You idiot. It’s mainly the rural poor who do drink unfluoridated water.
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So you say, Ohioan.

If that's true - and you've not substantiated that assertion - can you cite any documented demand for fluoridation from "the rural poor" you presume to speak for?

I don't want fluoride in my water.

My body, my choice.

Why should I have to install and maintain a water filtration system to eliminate unwanted chemicals I never asked for that were introduced to a municipal water supply without my consent?
 
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The Trump Administration said:
So you say, Ohioan.

If that's true - and you've not substantiated that assertion - can you cite any documented demand for fluoridation from "the rural poor" you presume to speak for?

I don't want fluoride in my water.

My body, my choice.

Why should I have to install and maintain a water filtration system to eliminate unwanted chemicals I never asked for that were introduced to a municipal water supply without my consent?
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You’ve never lived in a rural area, have you? LOL

Most rural folks drink well water…and it’s not fluoridated. How do I know? I grew up there.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
You’ve never lived in a rural area, have you? LOL Most rural folks drink well water…and it’s not fluoridated. How do I know? I grew up there.
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Personal anecdotes are inadmissible as evidence. Excluded.

Let the record show that the Ohioan was unable to substantiate his previous assertion with any validatory data and has failed to cite any documented demand for fluoridation from "the rural poor" he presumed to speak for.
 
signalmankenneth said:
I hope the senate vote's no to this crackpot RFK Jr. for HHS?!!

Our next potential leader of US health policy, Robert F. Kennedy Jr, wants to ban adding fluoride to public drinking water — a practice that experts agree has remarkably elevated teeth health for millions of Americans at little cost.

In a country where many people don't have access to dental care, a widespread crackdown on this naturally occurring mineral could be a disaster. To see how, we turn to the sobering case of Juneau, a city in Alaska that voted to stop fluoridating its water in 2007, citing many of the same fears that RFK touts today.

In a 2018 study published in the journal BMC Oral Health, researchers examined the dental records of adolescents in the Alaska community who sought Medicaid dental care in the years surrounding either side of the ban.

They divided them into two treatment groups: a 2003 group, when public drinking water had optimal levels of fluoride, and a 2012 group, well after the fluoride ban.

The results were damning. On average, the 2012 group had a significantly higher number of cavity-related procedures for adolescents than the 2003 group. Similarly, the odds of someone 18 years-old or younger undergoing the same type of procedure was 25 percent higher in 2012.

Children born after the fluoride ban were the hardest hit age group, receiving not only the most tooth decay treatments, but also having the most expensive treatments on average.

Additionally on the economic side of things, the researchers found that dental care costs for adolescents soared by 73 percent as a result of the fluoride policy, even after adjusting for inflation. In sum, it seems clear cut that removing fluoride caused tooth rot to surge — and with it, medical costs.

Today, nearly three-quarters of the US population has access to fluoridated water, reducing tooth decay in children and adults by an estimated 25 percent. The US Centers for Disease Control has hailed fluoridation as one of the top ten greatest public health interventions in history.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/took-fluoride-water-rfk-jr-120017664.html

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Don't worry your denture are not going to rot.
 
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