The origin of the species is not the same thing as the origin of all life, and there is no evolution textbook that addresses any origin of life theory at all. They are two separate things.
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i linked to an evolution textbook that addressed the origin of life, had a whole chapter on it
if they are two completely seperate things, why do people say evolution vs. creation etc....?
apparently i have wrongly believed that evolution also dealt with the origin of life, in that, abiogenesis and rna world hypothesis or any other theory were mere sub theories under evolution. seems many people are wrong on this.
If it had a chapter on it they were pointing out in that chapter that evolution does not cover the origin of life and explaining the difference between the two.
as for your second question because they are usually Christians who don't understand the science and think it is about the origin of life or people who believe that the species wasn't made from dirt and then breathed on to create the first man. Evolution doesn't quite follow the six day myth in the bible of the origin of the species.
Yes, it is a common misconception.
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it's interesting that creationism as outlined in the bible is a myth....yet there is no theory on the origin of life....how can you be sure that creationism is a myth?
It is mostly because it involves magic. I would say it has as much validity as the belief that Zeus gave birth to the first humans out of his head.
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yet you have no idea how life originated....thus, god could have created life the way the bible says
i find it amusing that those who find the bible's story of creation a "myth" have no clue how life actually started, yet claim with absolute conviction that the bible story is a myth, as if it is fact that the bible story is a myth....
lol
Yeah, as I said it has about the same probability as that of Zeus. I've never claimed to know the origin of life.
Many people believed in Zeus with just as much fervor as you do in Jesus, there is nothing that would change that both stories would be taught as myths.
I think it may be that you think there is only one definition of myth.
One of the definitions is: An unproved or false collective belief that is used to justify a social institution.
It doesn't have to be untrue or false in order to be a myth.
I find it amusing that people don't understand words that are being used.
The definition of "myth" that I am applying is: An unproved or false collective belief that is used to justify a social institution.
It doesn't mean it is a fairy tale or even that it isn't true, solely that it is unproved.
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thanks for clarifying your usage of the word
that you had to specifically give a definition merely shows that i was not wrong, only that i did not know you were using that specific definition of myth
why you had to jump on your high horse over that is beyond me because surely you are aware that myth is also an imaginary or false notion
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why are you laughing? i know 28 forms of karate, i am a certified ninja in 28 countries....answer me or you shall pay.
that you had to specifically give a definition merely shows that i was not wrong, only that i did not know you were using that specific definition of myth
why you had to jump on your high horse over that is beyond me because surely you are aware that myth is also an imaginary or false notion
grind:
why are you laughing? i know 28 forms of karate, i am a certified ninja in 28 countries....answer me or you shall pay.
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A lab this year created a single-cell life form. The characteristics weren't comparable to what we recognize even as single cell life, e.g. amoebas, paramecia, etc., but it was self-sustaining. I believe that it was in the U.S. but forget exactly where. It was in early spring, I think.
though that's usually what's implied
im laughing because of how silly you sound. it's like someone defending the greek pantheon. religious people such as yourself just can't comprehend how it is for people like watermark and I to be on a level above the rest of you. I don't mean that condescendingly, but we really are in like another dimension of reality. if you were in our dimension you would look down on your murky existence and beliefs and have a chuckle as well.
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you do realize you sound like a five year old kid who's dad built him the best fort so he can look down on other kids simply because his dad built him a great fort....
he has no value, but his daddy made his argument for him
when you step out of your fort, let me know and let's discuss this. i am highly interested in it.
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By "magic" don't you just mean it is something you can't rationalize or comprehend? If you can't prove how life originated, then you can't disprove it wasn't through creationism, that was the point. You want to imagine creationism as being "magic" because you don't comprehend how it may have worked or what may have happened, but wouldn't that also apply to any other notion you might have, since we simply don't know how life originates?
i used to do that all the time. I actually had a great treehouse, it had 3 levels and was badass. all the kids liked my treehouse better
Please. Why I had to "jump on my high horse"...
I simply knocked you off of yours and threw your own word usage "I find it amusing" back at you. Why use the words if you think when others use them they are jumping "on their high horse?"
I thought it was just a protein string.
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Can't remember for certain; it did satisfy most or perhaps all the criteria for life, including being self-replicating, but I can't really look for it 'til after the weekend.