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Let's see... a choice between my neighbor who, while shooting at woodpeckers, hit a neighbor's house (luckily did not hit a person) or regulation...

I'll take regulation.

Then get an amendment passed. Hell, get one proposed. You're all for regulating rights that YOU don't want to exercise (or don't think should exist) but when someone tries to do that same to a different right (under the precedent YOU support) well, you just sing a different tune, because you can't see past the end of your nose.

 

[Big Money]

A constitutional right should be abolished because liberals fear guns, but requiring a free ID to vote is racist?

Is that about it?

 

[USFREEDOM911]

A constitutional right should be abolished because liberals fear guns, but requiring a free ID to vote is racist?

Is that about it?

Pretty much.

 

[tekkychick]

Then get an amendment passed. Hell, get one proposed. You're all for regulating rights that YOU don't want to exercise (or don't think should exist) but when someone tries to do that same to a different right (under the precedent YOU support) well, you just sing a different tune, because you can't see past the end of your nose.

I have no problems with forbidding people to yell "fire" in a crowded theater and yet the first amendment is very near and dear to my heart.

You are the one that is ignoring all the carnage that is happening beyond the end of YOUR nose because of our way too lenient gun laws.

 

[/MSG/]

I have no problems with forbidding people to yell "fire" in a crowded theater and yet the first amendment is very near and dear to my heart.

You are the one that is ignoring all the carnage that is happening beyond the end of YOUR nose because of our way too lenient gun laws.

You sure have a problem with needing an I.D. to vote though....and it's the same logic as your argument. Exactly the same. But of course you are too blind to see that. You're like everyone else, a 'rule for thee, not for me' type. If someone wanted to restrict your access to the internet or books, you'd be rightfully upset, but because this is a right you don't like, you think it's fine.

 

[Big Money]

Tekkygal's hypocrisy and ignorance are boundless, apparently.

 

[Big Money]

I have no problems with forbidding people to yell "fire" in a crowded theater and yet the first amendment is very near and dear to my heart.

You don't get to choose the amendments you like and ditch the rest, do you?

You are the one that is ignoring all the carnage that is happening beyond the end of YOUR nose because of our way too lenient gun laws.

Explain how more gun laws will stop "all the carnage", will you? Or are you going to pretend you're ignoring me and cop out?

 

[zappasguitar]

You sure have a problem with needing an I.D. to vote though....and it's the same logic as your argument. Exactly the same. But of course you are too blind to see that. You're like everyone else, a 'rule for thee, not for me' type. If someone wanted to restrict your access to the internet or books, you'd be rightfully upset, but because this is a right you don't like, you think it's fine.

There are already SEVERAL forms of ID acceptable for identification purposes if one wishes to vote...you just think the poor and minorities/anyone who might vote Democrat, should have to procure a NEW IMPROVED ID.

I am wasting my time...I'm another one ol gutless Billy has on ignore.

 

[Big Money]

There are already SEVERAL forms of ID acceptable for identification purposes if one wishes to vote...you just think the poor and minorities/anyone who might vote Democrat, should have to procure a NEW IMPROVED ID.

LOL, cite your evidence.

 

[zappasguitar]

LOL, cite your evidence.

A person CAN ALREADY use their electric bill as proof of residence.

One example as requested.

 

[Big Money]

A person CAN ALREADY use their electric bill as proof of residence. One example as requested.

Link? And I didn't ask for just one example, I asked you to cite your evidence for this:

There are already SEVERAL forms of ID acceptable for identification purposes if one wishes to vote...you just think the poor and minorities/anyone who might vote Democrat, should have to procure a NEW IMPROVED ID.

Are you going to pretend all jurisdictions accept an electric bill (despite the fact that a poor person might not have one), or will you claim I quoted you "out of context" because I edited out your sly and irrelevant dig at "Billy"?

 

[tekkychick]

There are already SEVERAL forms of ID acceptable for identification purposes if one wishes to vote...you just think the poor and minorities/anyone who might vote Democrat, should have to procure a NEW IMPROVED ID.

I am wasting my time...I'm another one ol gutless Billy has on ignore.

Good point. Voter id laws often have very specific requirements - like an "expiration date" on the id, so the various id that people have don't meet those qualifications.

As you said, a bill with the residential address on it could suffice. Except that the point of voter id laws is only to stop people from voting, it's not about stopping any problem that is actually occurring.

RE his opinion of gun laws - I know he's psychotic on the subject, so I will disengage from further discussion with him on this thread. Don't want to drive up his blood pressure too much.

 

[Big Money]

Good point. Voter id laws often have very specific requirements - like an "expiration date" on the id, so the various id that people have don't meet those qualifications. As you said, a bill with the residential address on it could suffice. Except that the point of voter id laws is only to stop people from voting, it's not about stopping any problem that is actually occurring. RE his opinion of gun laws - I know he's psychotic on the subject, so I will disengage from further discussion with him on this thread. Don't want to drive up his blood pressure too much.

LOL, your "concern" is touching.

Here's a tip: pretending to ignore people doesn't work when you're this transparent.

You won't engage me because you can't debate, and we both know it, don't we?

 

[/MSG/]

Good point. Voter id laws often have very specific requirements - like an "expiration date" on the id, so the various id that people have don't meet those qualifications.

As you said, a bill with the residential address on it could suffice. Except that the point of voter id laws is only to stop people from voting, it's not about stopping any problem that is actually occurring.

RE his opinion of gun laws - I know he's psychotic on the subject, so I will disengage from further discussion with him on this thread. Don't want to drive up his blood pressure too much.

See what I mean about you being short sighted? The point literally spits out of your mouth and yet still don't grasp it.

 

[tekkychick]

See what I mean about you being short sighted? The point literally spits out of your mouth and yet still don't grasp it.

last response to you, and I shouldn't even do this:

Number of shooting deaths since Newtown
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/crime/2012/12/gun_death_tally_every_american_gun_death_since_newtown_sandy_hook_shooting.html

Guns ARE a problem in this country. Voter fraud is not.

from the link:

Update, June 19, 2013: As time goes on, our count gets further and further away from the likely actual number of gun deaths in America—because roughly 60 percent of deaths by gun are due to suicides, which are very rarely reported. When discussing this issue, please note that our number is by design not accurate and represents only the number of gun deaths that the media can find out about contemporaneously. Part of the purpose of this interactive is to point out how difficult it is to get accurate real-time numbers on this issue.

Using the most recent CDC estimates for yearly deaths by guns in the United States, it is likely that as of today, 9/1/2013, roughly 22,981 people have died from guns in the United States since the Newtown shootings. Compare that number to the number of deaths reported in the news in our interactive below, and you can see how undertold the story of gun violence in America actually is.

 

[/MSG/]

last response to you, and I shouldn't even do this:

Number of shooting deaths since Newtown
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_..._death_since_newtown_sandy_hook_shooting.html

Guns ARE a problem in this country. Voter fraud is not.

No, VIOLENCE is a problem. Gun laws are not a means to reduce violence (as our own history shows) they are only enacted, like you said about voter I.D. laws (which you seem to think I agree with), to discourage or prevent people from exercising their rights. Same with permits for protesting for example. They are to discourage people who want to do no harm for exercising their rights.

 

[Big Money]

last response to you

You say that to all the boys, don't you?

Guns ARE a problem in this country.

No, they aren't. Guns are inanimate objects.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

Link? And I didn't ask for just one example, I asked you to cite your evidence for this:



Are you going to pretend all jurisdictions accept an electric bill (despite the fact that a poor person might not have one), or will you claim I quoted you "out of context" because I edited out your sly and irrelevant dig at "Billy"?

Since when was "proof of evidence" equate to an ID?