Who's really responsible aside from the bleeping shooter?

[Trumpet]

Trump didn't inspire anyone to shoot anybody.


What "racist" rhetoric??

Homework: Define the word 'racism', then provide one specific example where Trump said something that was racist.

Apparently, playing dumb is the best tactic that you can come up with, and then again, you might not be playing dumb, because you really are dumb.

 

[Celticguy]

No question the murderer is in the wrong for his deeds.
But
As noted, he was pushed past hus limit by congress' refusal to address this obvious crisis.
Some can just be frustrated, others rant but a few will go over the edge.
Congress was wring to do nothing while all this tension was building. And to do it fir purely political reasons is beyond the pale.
That El Paso blood is all over Nancy & company.

 

[gfm7175]

StoneByStone: Nope. It's not an invasion, because they're not soldiers. They're people looking to live here.

gfm7175: So you are perfectly fine with me coming into your home illegally?? I mean, under your very own logic, I wouldn't be invading, since I'm not a soldier, and I'm simply a person looking to live there...

I didn't say that.

Lie. See above correspondence.

Why would people illegally entering your home be an invasion, but people illegally entering the USA not be an invasion?? The USA is a macro version of your home, correct?

I'm not fine with illegal immigration and I'm all for building the wall.

Great! I agree with that. That's why I am supporting Trump over any of the Democratic candidates who are running.

I'm saying that lying about this being an invasion

It quite literally IS an invasion. Those people are unwelcomely intruding into another's domain.

leads to people using violence to kill these people.

No, it doesn't.

How old are you?

Upper 20s. What does my age have to do with anything?

 

[StoneByStone]

Why would people illegally entering your home be an invasion, but people illegally entering the USA not be an invasion?? The USA is a macro version of your home, correct?

Context matters. When the word "invasion" is used in the context of people entering a country, it's to say these people are invading and taking over on behalf of another country. If these people are seen as soldiers of a foreign enemy, then it's ok to shoot them.

And no, the country isn't a macro version of the home. Everything from the rules to ownership is completely different.

And asking for asylum isn't illegal.

 

[gfm7175]

It takes a fucking dumbass to get a thanks from Truth Deflector.

Insult Fallacy. Avoiding The Issue Fallacy.

Are you, also, okay with me coming into your home illegally?? According to StoneByStone, my actions would not be an invasion of any sort since I am not a soldier and I am simply a person looking to live there... Do you agree with him?

 

[gfm7175]

Nothing but denial.

Redefinition Fallacy. [logic >> denial]

And more denial.

See above.

And projection.

Projecting about projecting.

 

[gfm7175]

By encouraging someone to shoot somebody.

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Who encouraged him to shoot somebody? Please provide a quote...

 

[gfm7175]

So you think propaganda does not work?

Sometimes it does; sometimes it doesn't. Trump didn't shoot anyone. Trump didn't encourage anyone to shoot anyone. Trump does not have control over the actions of the shooter. The shooter himself is responsible for the shooting.

I can show you a lot of religions who owe their existence on its power over some people.

Religions exist because unfalsifiable theories exist.

Trump and his fueling hate seems to work very well on many people.

Specify "fueling hate".

Their hate is being buttressed by White power and dedicated hate sites on the net.

Specify "hate"... Racism Fallacy.

They are training haters from a distance, That is why we monitor Muslim sites that reached Americans and convinced them to leave their homes and fight for ISIS. Even some girls were convinced to leave their homes to provide comfort for Muslim fighters.

Unrelated tripe...

I know, it was the company that made the bullets.

Who made the bullets is irrelevant... The shooter is responsible for his actions.

 

[gfm7175]

Apparently, playing dumb is the best tactic that you can come up with, and then again, you might not be playing dumb, because you really are dumb.

Argument of the Stone Fallacy.
Insult Fallacy.


What "racist" rhetoric??

Homework: Define the word 'racism', then provide one specific example where Trump said something that was racist.

 

[gfm7175]

Context matters.

Agreed.

When the word "invasion" is used in the context of people entering a country, it's to say these people are invading and taking over on behalf of another country. If these people are seen as soldiers of a foreign enemy, then it's ok to shoot them.

It doesn't have to be "on behalf of another country", nor does someone have to be a "soldier" nor "seen as an enemy" in order to invade. Any unwelcome intrusion into another's domain is an invasion. Whenever someone comes into our country unwelcomed, they are invading our country. Same as whenever someone comes into your house unwelcomed. They are invading your house.

And no, the country isn't a macro version of the home. Everything from the rules to ownership is completely different.

Is that so?? You are a citizen of your house, just like you are a citizen of your country. The population of your country is ~330 million (that's not including adjustments for the illegals who are currently invading it). The population of your house is yourself, any spouse/children you might have, and any other friends/relatives you might have "granted citizenship" to reside inside it. The idea of citizenship, whether inside of a particular house, or inside of the USA, is all the same. You don't want people unwelcomely intruding into your house, your school, your church, your city/township, your state... so why would you be okay with people unwelcomely intruding into your country? It's the same concept, just on a different scale.


I think many of us, as individuals, have largely forgotten the importance of community, whether that be within the family, within the city/township, within the church, within the school, ... ... ...

I think many of us have also largely forgotten the importance of being able to properly govern oneself. Without being able to properly govern ourselves as individuals, how can we expect to properly govern in a more "macro" way, such as over various communities and localities, let alone over a state or a country?

And asking for asylum isn't illegal.

Not everyone is "seeking asylum"...

 

[Robo]

The president's language fueled the shooter's hate and actions.

Contact the President to refine his language.

Let's see Jimmy, then judging logically & honestly by your own leftist word puke opinion, the Ohio shooter, a Elizabeth Warren supporter, Elizabeth is responsible for that carnage, right, jimmy? Unlike you Jimmy & your leftist scum, I'm too intelligent and honest to puke that garbage!

 

[Robo]

The NRA and Republicans in Congress.

Accusations without evidence are the mother of BULLSHIT!

 

[Gonzomin]

Let's see Jimmy, then judging logically & honestly by your own leftist word puke opinion, the Ohio shooter, a Elizabeth Warren supporter, Elizabeth is responsible for that carnage, right, jimmy? Unlike you Jimmy & your leftist scum, I'm too intelligent and honest to puke that garbage!

Staying stupid aren't you? If the premise is correct, then you can show evidence of Warren stirring hate and encouraging killers. She does not do that. Daffy does. That makes all the difference.

 

[Robo]

I blame idiots like ROBO, who support our racist president!

You either support racism- or stand up to it and call it out!

Donald J. Trump has never been proven to be a racist, on the contrary, he's created enterprise zones in inner city ghettos & Walla! The lowest black & Hispanic unemployment rates in the history of the nation! You won't find that out watching CNN & MSNBC Adolph, but of course you don't want to know anything positive about this President.

 

[Robo]

Nope. It's not an invasion, because they're not soldiers. They're people looking to live here.

This is the kind of language that makes Trump at least partly responsible.

invasion



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noun


1an act or instance of invading or entering as an enemy, especially by an army.

2the entrance or advent of anything troublesome or harmful, as disease.

3entrance as if to take possession or overrun:
the annual invasion of the resort by tourists.

4infringement by intrusion.

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Most folks understand stone that there's more than a single definition for most words, but I totally understand WHY you cherry pick just one to support your rabid, insane hatred of the President. She lost stone, get the fuck over it!

 

[Robo]

How are the NRA and Republicans in Congress responsible? They pulled the triggers?

I'd say it's their upbringing, or lack thereof.

Lefties don't do evidence! They're masters of unfounded accusations and total BULLSHIT!

 

[Robo]

The shooter is legally responsible for his actions.

Trump and his supporters are morally accountable

OK, let us all agree that opinion is gospel truth. Now we know that Elizabeth Warren is morally responsible for her supporter’s shooting and killing in the Ohio massacre & Bernie Sanders is morally responsible for the shooting up of the Republican softball practice by his supporter, OK?


Such absurd BULLSHIT bites BULLSHITTERS in their BULLSHITTING ASSES!

Actually, the Cypress post are responsible morally for stoking the fires of fucking hatred & causing hatred for everybody that lies and BULLSHITS like he/she does.

 

[Robo]

It's the kind of crap the Nazi's pulled with the Jews in their country.

I agree! The blaming of sensless killings on the President is exactly what Nazi's would do. Nazis are masters at the blame game, just like the commies. Carry on Comrade!

 

[Robo]

You Trumperoos rally and condone this mad man Trump, and you encourage more racist rhetoric, which leads to instigating more violence.

"Mad man? encourage more racist rhetoric?" Can we read your evidence of any of that? I'll understand if you can't present any!

 

[Gonzomin]

OK, let us all agree that opinion is gospel truth. Now we know that Elizabeth Warren is morally responsible for her supporter’s shooting and killing in the Ohio massacre & Bernie Sanders is morally responsible for the shooting up of the Republican softball practice by his supporter, OK?


Such absurd BULLSHIT bites BULLSHITTERS in their BULLSHITTING ASSES!

Actually, the Cypress post are responsible morally for stoking the fires of fucking hatred & causing hatred for everybody that lies and BULLSHITS like he/she does.

You cannot digest information or comprehend the obvious differences even when explained to you. You just repeat what has been proven wrong and stupid again. Go back to Fox and Infowars. That is where you can get the one side that you can believe. You are not debating. You have no defense. You simply say "this is what I believe and I will ignore any arguments and stay in the same spot." I will fart in your general direction and stay right where I am.