Why are atheists like cypress so invested in monotheism?
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You want the actual answer that fits every reality humanity created to make sure no ancestors is allowed to stand their biological time in any arena of ideas life isn't self evident biological time physically eternally separates every reproduction lived and living native to this universal position.
Quest to control space adapting is series parallel positions genetically changing shape fertilized cell to decomposing corpses in male or female results each generation gap alive since conceived to replace the 30 specific people that made up the chromosomes of each great great grandchild specifical to thos 30 lived previous 4 generation gaps. as siblings created nieces and nephews and cousins of aunts and uncles to mom and dads having children having children, having children cycles of ever changing population never same ancestors of any previous generation gap left in the atmosphere today/this rotation life never stays same total sum again.
What evolving does naturally until one species makes shit up pretending it didn't work that way so far and any ancestor not complying is eliminated from social enterprises with their replacements removed for getting rid of the evidence they even existed tomorrow.
that is the purpose of World Wars dreaming of a one world order of one species even though there are 5 basic ancestral lineages developed in each temperate zone between equators and opposite seasonal poles 24/7 species only has male and female changing forms from fertilized cell, zygote, embryo, fetus, for 0-9 months before birth to society doesn't count a lifetime until after birth.
Why? philosophy about counting egg before the hatch debating which came first, chicken or egg? the great what if and reaction of what about.
About their own faith? I should think everyone would care or at least be sufficiently adult enough to say it is their faith and not yours to define.
Again, the point is that some people who are Baptists disagree with YOUR definition of their faith. That is not up to you.
Well, it is kind of in the name.
Besides the Baptists did NOT form from the separation from the Catholic church but rather from a split from the CofE during the English Civil War.
And, again, at the end of the day what kind of hubris does one have to have to tell SOMEONE ELSE what their faith is?
That is not how one is defined as a Christian. A Christian need only accept Jesus as their savior. This is certainly true of most Protestant Christians. It is kind of the core of the soteriology.
Ummm, you really don't know much about Christianity do you? Certainly not Protestant Christianity which is justification by faith.
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cypress is a dipshit who only likes religion for totalitarianism purposes.
You're free to claim Encyclopedia Britannica and centuries of religious scholars and trained theologians are wrong
You're free to travel the world and find Baptists who are opposed to Protestantism
,...Pentecostals who claim Catholics aren't Christians,
...and Orthodox Jews who claim Reform Judaism isn't really Judaism.
But we both know that doesn't prove anything, and you are just being Contrarian for the sake of being Contrarian.
You're free to claim Encyclopedia Britannica and centuries of religious scholars and trained theologians are wrong
Dude, listen. I'm going to try to explain this to you: if a bunch (and it's not just a small number) of Baptists say that Bapitsts technically are not part of the Protestant Reformation for historical reasons which are perfectly valid YOU are not in a position to tell them what their faith actually is.
I was merely noting that when you claimed to "Correct" someone on this, that, indeed there ARE baptists who think they are not Protestants.
It is NOT a clear-cut case of Baptists are Protestants. It just isn't. There IS disagreement on this point.
End of story.
No, you were not necessarily technically correct.
I know it galls you that someone can actually point out your errors, but just screaming at them as you like to do doesn't change the fact of the matter.
No, Cypress demands that he be the smartest person in the room. When you point out a potential error in his reasoning he loses his shit. Wait for it...he'll start mocking my degree or calling me names. He can't discuss the meat of the point so he attacks people.
Fringe views and incorrect views do not count, anymore than fringe views on climate science are given serious weight. Baptists are universally recognized by world religions, religious experts, theologians, and educated laypersons as coming out of the Protestant tradition.
Encyclopedia Britannica
"Baptist, member of a group of Protestant Christians who share the basic beliefs of most Protestants"
American Baptist Churches USA
"American Baptist Churches USA today is the most racially inclusive Protestant body."
Christinanity.com
"Baptist: it’s one of the most well-known denominations in Protestant Christianity and is named after its main belief in believer’s baptism"
Pew Research Center
"Southern Baptists are the largest evangelical Protestant group in the United States."
Clearview Baptist Church
"The Baptist religion stems from the Protestant Christian church."
Baptist | History, Beliefs, Denominations, & Facts | Britannica
Baptist, member of a group of Protestant Christians who share the basic beliefs of most Protestants but who insist that only believers should be baptized and that it should be done by immersion rather than by the sprinkling or pouring of water. Learn more about Baptists in this article.
www.britannica.com
10 Facts About American Baptists - ABCUSA
www.abc-usa.org
Baptists: Beliefs, History, Faith and Religion Explained
Baptist: it’s one of the most well-known denominations in Protestant Christianity and aptly named after its main belief in believer’s baptism, where a person chooses to publicly proclaim their faith in Christ by baptism. There are some 50 million Baptists in the U.S. alone, making it one of the...
www.christianity.com
7 facts about Southern Baptists
Southern Baptists are the largest evangelical Protestant group in the United States. Yet the total number of Southern Baptists is falling.
www.pewresearch.org
Baptist vs. Southern Baptist: The Differences Explained - ClearView Baptist Church
Many people around the world find comfort in practicing a religion. In fact, there are over 4,000 religions recognized around the world. Two common religious groups are the Baptists and […]
www.clearview.org
Litmus
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these are just organizations of men. they have nothing to do with actual spirituality.Fringe views and incorrect views do not count, anymore than fringe views on climate science are given serious weight. Baptists are universally recognized by world religions, religious experts, theologians, and educated laypersons as coming out of the Protestant tradition.
Encyclopedia Britannica
"Baptist, member of a group of Protestant Christians who share the basic beliefs of most Protestants"
American Baptist Churches USA
"American Baptist Churches USA today is the most racially inclusive Protestant body."
Christinanity.com
"Baptist: it’s one of the most well-known denominations in Protestant Christianity and is named after its main belief in believer’s baptism"
Pew Research Center
"Southern Baptists are the largest evangelical Protestant group in the United States."
Clearview Baptist Church
"The Baptist religion stems from the Protestant Christian church."
Baptist | History, Beliefs, Denominations, & Facts | Britannica
Baptist, member of a group of Protestant Christians who share the basic beliefs of most Protestants but who insist that only believers should be baptized and that it should be done by immersion rather than by the sprinkling or pouring of water. Learn more about Baptists in this article.10 Facts About American Baptists - ABCUSA
Baptists: Beliefs, History, Faith and Religion Explained
Baptist: it’s one of the most well-known denominations in Protestant Christianity and aptly named after its main belief in believer’s baptism, where a person chooses to publicly proclaim their faith in Christ by baptism. There are some 50 million Baptists in the U.S. alone, making it one of the...7 facts about Southern Baptists
Southern Baptists are the largest evangelical Protestant group in the United States. Yet the total number of Southern Baptists is falling.Baptist vs. Southern Baptist: The Differences Explained - ClearView Baptist Church
Many people around the world find comfort in practicing a religion. In fact, there are over 4,000 religions recognized around the world. Two common religious groups are the Baptists and […]
their definitions are only relevant to themselves.
they have no authority and neither do you.
they do not speak for God.
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Dictionaries don't define words.
That's so funny that in your inclination to wallow in your resentment about me, you've reached out and made friends on this thread with two of the boards biggest bigoted rightwing antisemites, Matt and Blackwater.
That wasn't the issue.
I don't care what you think about Baptists.
The issue is that reputable web sources, experts, and even Baptist churches themselves recognize their church emerged out of the Protestant tradition.
Doesn't sound like it is fringe. I'm not a Baptist but it seems to me this is a legitimate difference they have.
You are free to ignore anyone who disagrees with you, even if it is THEIR faith and NOT YOURS.
Incorrect? Then you didn't actually read anything about the Baptists who disagree with you, correct? You seem to make a LOT of arguments based on knowing only one side of a point.
You are free to ignore what the Baptists themselves say. I'm sure they will see you are right and they are wrong about their own faith.
Encyclopedia Britannica
"Baptist, member of a group of Protestant Christians who share the basic beliefs of most Protestants"
American Baptist Churches USA
"American Baptist Churches USA today is the most racially inclusive Protestant body."
Christinanity.com
"Baptist: it’s one of the most well-known denominations in Protestant Christianity and is named after its main belief in believer’s baptism"
Pew Research Center
"Southern Baptists are the largest evangelical Protestant group in the United States."
Clearview Baptist Church
"The Baptist religion stems from the Protestant Christian church."
Baptist | History, Beliefs, Denominations, & Facts | Britannica
Baptist, member of a group of Protestant Christians who share the basic beliefs of most Protestants but who insist that only believers should be baptized and that it should be done by immersion rather than by the sprinkling or pouring of water. Learn more about Baptists in this article.10 Facts About American Baptists - ABCUSA
Baptists: Beliefs, History, Faith and Religion Explained
Baptist: it’s one of the most well-known denominations in Protestant Christianity and aptly named after its main belief in believer’s baptism, where a person chooses to publicly proclaim their faith in Christ by baptism. There are some 50 million Baptists in the U.S. alone, making it one of the...7 facts about Southern Baptists
Southern Baptists are the largest evangelical Protestant group in the United States. Yet the total number of Southern Baptists is falling.Baptist vs. Southern Baptist: The Differences Explained - ClearView Baptist Church
Many people around the world find comfort in practicing a religion. In fact, there are over 4,000 religions recognized around the world. Two common religious groups are the Baptists and […]
Now go and read the counterpoints.
How could it "emerge" out of Protestant tradition if it rose out of a split with the Church of England during their Civil War? Doesn't sound like it was in any way related to the Protestant Reformation per se.
Protestants were born of a split from the Catholic Church (do you see the difference between the Church of England and the Catholic Church?)
I will say this so you can ignore it as you ALWAYS do: but I understand what you are saying. Yes, indeed, it is quite common to lump Baptists in with Protestants, but clearly there are Baptists who legitimately disagree with this.
You can stamp your feet as much as you like and insult them as you feel appropriate (make sure to call them "rubes" because you are superior to them) but it won't change the FACT that some Baptists disagree with you on their religion.
I don't care about the other posters. I've made no friends. Just because a bastard can see your error doesn't make your error go away.
Nice of you to leap in to defend your new boyfriend, the notorious MAGA bigot Blackwater.
I don't know of any genuine Christian practice where you can just sit on your couch at home and proclaim yourself a practicing Christian.
Every Christian denomination and church I am familiar with, perhaps Quakers excepted, expects Baptism as a sign that you are a follower of Jesus and are committed to fellowship in the community of believers. Some denominations actually consider baptism neccessary for salvation.
Being a practicing religious person requires work and commitment. Just sitting on your couch at home and declaring yourself saved is just being lazy and does not demostrate any kind of genuine commitment.
The Baptists, like all Protestant denominations, hold to the basic Protestant tenets that emerged in the 16th century: sola fide and sola scruptura. That is a radical departure from traditional Catholic belief and practice, and all Protestants adhere to those tenets .
I am not here to use all my time to teach you about Protestantism, your local community college can give you a class on religious history.
Your free to continue to believe Baptists are not a Protestant denomination.
I'm actually speaking against your point. Another technical detail about Protestantism that you seem to lack knowledge of.
Well, prepare to be surprised. It's only been about 500 years since this novel version of the faith has arisen.
A sign, perhaps, but not a requisite for salvation. Perhaps in the Catholic Church but not in the Protestant Church. For salvation to happen for Protestants really the ONLY thing needed is to accept Jesus as your personal savior. That's it.
That is not part of "justification by faith" which is the core of Protestant salvation.
Funny how the "agnostic" of the board has SO MANY rules for religious people to follow that they don't necessarily see. Maybe they will come around to believing as you do some day.