Why Are So Many Americans in Prison?

Phantasmal said:
You obviously do not know the urban dictionaries definition of stable genius or you wouldn’t be claiming you are a stable genius.
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I know all about Orange Man Bad syndrome. You have a mild case of it, I've seen worse. I still have hope for you. sTrumpet on the other hand, is lost, but he's older than dirt anyways.
 
countryboy said:
I know all about Orange Man Bad syndrome. You have a mild case of it, I've seen worse. I still have hope for you. sTrumpet on the other hand, is lost, but he's older than dirt anyways.
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Criticizing Trump isn’t a syndrome. It is an obligation. It’s a necessity.
 
Phantasmal said:
Criticizing Trump isn’t a syndrome. It is an obligation. It’s a necessity.
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Yes, for those afflicted with Orange Man Bad Syndrome. I understand. Stable geniuses such as myself criticize the President when warranted, but not in the irrational manner of OMBS sufferers like you.
 
Phantasmal said:
Criticizing Trump isn’t a syndrome. It is an obligation. It’s a necessity.
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That's because you cannot decipher the difference between the good and the bad. For the likes of you (and so many other posters here), it's ALWAYS

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because you're programmed to hate. You know no better...
 
countryboy said:
Not all laws are just, and it makes no sense to have such a huge prison population.
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Agreed. Throwing more people behind bars ultimately does more long term damage than good. And like you said earlier the war on drugs has not been a success other than ruining a lot of lives.

For the sake of discussion I'll throw this out there. In SF we reduced the charge of stealing items under $1K from felony to misdemeanor and often they aren't even pursued anymore. As a result there are people brazenly breaking into stores during the middle of the day stealing things because they don't fear repercussions. So I admit to somewhat of a conundrum. Harsh jail sentences isn't really the answer but there has to be fear of breaking the law as well.

And we have a huge opioid and drug crisis in our City. People regularly doing drugs on the open streets, people dying in the streets of overdoses and brazen drug dealing in broad daylight. Again, I'm with you in that the War on Drugs has been a failure so using the harsh methods we have in the past isn't the answer. But when you this stuff on a daily basis you know it's not ok.

There's no easy answer I know. And its far more than Republicans and Democrats bitching back and forth at each other.
 
cawacko said:
Agreed. Throwing more people behind bars ultimately does more long term damage than good. And like you said earlier the war on drugs has not been a success other than ruining a lot of lives.

For the sake of discussion I'll throw this out there. In SF we reduced the charge of stealing items under $1K from felony to misdemeanor and often they aren't even pursued anymore. As a result there are people brazenly breaking into stores during the middle of the day stealing things because they don't fear repercussions. So I admit to somewhat of a conundrum. Harsh jail sentences isn't really the answer but there has to be fear of breaking the law as well.

And we have a huge opioid and drug crisis in our City. People regularly doing drugs on the open streets, people dying in the streets of overdoses and brazen drug dealing in broad daylight. Again, I'm with you in that the War on Drugs has been a failure so using the harsh methods we have in the past isn't the answer. But when you this stuff on a daily basis you know it's not ok.

There's no easy answer I know. And its far more than Republicans and Democrats bitching back and forth at each other.
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You make some extremely valid points. You're right, there are no easy solutions. But one thing is certain, the so-called war on drugs has been wholly ineffective. And even in places like California, who have legalized marijuana, have done so in such a manner that it is heavily taxed and highly regulated. This has done little to stem the black market trade. Which in my opinion, is the whole idea of legalization, to choke off the money flowing into the criminal element. Any policy which doesn't achieve that, is a failure as far as I'm concerned. Furthermore, the vast sums of money wasted on drug enforcement, could be much better used for rehabilitation, and combating violent criminals. Encouraging petty theft also is not a good thing. it's a well-known fact that, many of the people who pull off these petty crimes, are the same people who commit a lot of the violent crime.
 
Celticguy said:
If you disagree with the laws, change them. Otherwise obey or roll the dice.
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That's all well and good, that doesn't mean I'm going to sit here and pretend our prison systems, law enforcement, and incarceration rates are hunky-dory. And having a cavalier attitude toward these things, doesn't do anyone any good.
 
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