Why Are So Many Americans in Prison?

countryboy said:
That's all well and good, that doesn't mean I'm going to sit here and pretend our prison systems, law enforcement, and incarceration rates are hunky-dory. And having a cavalier attitude toward these things, doesn't do anyone any good.
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prison industrial complex.
 
countryboy said:
You make some extremely valid points. You're right, there are no easy solutions. But one thing is certain, the so-called war on drugs has been wholly ineffective. And even in places like California, who have legalized marijuana, have done so in such a manner that it is heavily taxed and highly regulated. This has done little to stem the black market trade. Which in my opinion, is the whole idea of legalization, to choke off the money flowing into the criminal element. Any policy which doesn't achieve that, is a failure as far as I'm concerned. Furthermore, the vast sums of money wasted on drug enforcement, could be much better used for rehabilitation, and combating violent criminals. Encouraging petty theft also is not a good thing. it's a well-known fact that, many of the people who pull off these petty crimes, are the same people who commit a lot of the violent crime.
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I hear you and am with on the weed thing. I don't know if legalization or decriminalization are the same thing or not but we need it for reasons you stated. And you are correct about California, the black market has still flourished because of the high cost of legal weed.
 
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cawacko said:
I hear you and am with on the weed thing. I don't know if legalization or decriminalization are the same thing or not but we need it for reasons you stated. And you are correct about California, the black has still flourished because of the high cost of legal weed.
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too bad deep state includes cartel interests, which perpetuate the war on drugs to keep prices high.
 
countryboy said:
Yep. It's good work if you can get it.
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there's your answer. we need to reject the spiritually false dichotomy of "be corrupt or starve". remove your talents from the system. evil fails when good men do nothing. starve the beast. walk away from omelas.
 
countryboy said:
That's all well and good, that doesn't mean I'm going to sit here and pretend our prison systems, law enforcement, and incarceration rates are hunky-dory. And having a cavalier attitude toward these things, doesn't do anyone any good.
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Ok so you are unwilling to take any action.
And complaining accomplishes what exactly ?

Either you disagree with the laws in which case you should want them dropped or you find the punishments too severe which requires changes to the laws or maybe you just dont want laws or inforcement which just gets you south central LA or Chicago.
 
Celticguy said:
Ok so you are unwilling to take any action.
And complaining accomplishes what exactly ?

Either you disagree with the laws in which case you should want them dropped or you find the punishments too severe which requires changes to the laws or maybe you just dont want laws or inforcement which just gets you south central LA or Chicago.
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I think that's what he's saying, we should have changes in our laws. He's not arguing we should no laws. You can argue our current laws, especially drug laws, are too harsh and we have too many people in prison without saying we should have no laws or enforcement of laws.
 
AssHatZombie said:
politically biased fbi agents prosecuting with malice a forethought.
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You sound like that guy that says, "Everybody in the whole wide world is just a pickin' on the poor ole Trump people" BLA-HA-HA-HA-Ha!

But please tell us and convince us that you are not politically biased in any way, shape, or form? We'll wait!

Weak dude- just weak! LOL!
 
Celticguy said:
Ok so you are unwilling to take any action.
And complaining accomplishes what exactly ?

Either you disagree with the laws in which case you should want them dropped or you find the punishments too severe which requires changes to the laws or maybe you just dont want laws or inforcement which just gets you south central LA or Chicago.
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we can eliminate private prisons paying dividends on incarceration.
 
Geeko Sportivo said:
You sound like that guy that says, "Everybody in the whole wide world is just a pickin' on the poor ole Trump people" BLA-HA-HA-HA-Ha!

But please tell us and convince us that you are not politically biased in any way, shape, or form? We'll wait!

Weak dude- just weak! LOL!
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so you admit the agents were biased, and they were unable to keep this bias ot of their professional lives.
 
AssHatZombie said:
so you admit the agents were biased, and they were unable to keep this bias ot of their professional lives.
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Run back to Mommy crybaby- perhaps she'll give you a sugar tit, wipe your little butt, and dry your little tears and keep all the boogie men away for you!

YOU POOR WITTLE THANG YOU!
 
Geeko Sportivo said:
Run back to Mommy crybaby- perhaps she'll give you a sugar tit, wipe your little butt, and dry your little tears and keep all the boogie men away for you!

YOU POOR WITTLE THANG YOU!
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the agents were biased, sorry if that reality challenges your outdated worldview.
 
Celticguy said:
Ok so you are unwilling to take any action.
And complaining accomplishes what exactly ?

Either you disagree with the laws in which case you should want them dropped or you find the punishments too severe which requires changes to the laws or maybe you just dont want laws or inforcement which just gets you south central LA or Chicago.
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Where did I ever say I wasn't taking an action? Sometimes simply speaking out can be a form of action. You are confusing speaking out with complaining.
 
AssHatZombie said:
the agents were biased, sorry if that reality challenges your outdated worldview.
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Is there ever a time when you don't play the political card?

One of the easiest things to do when you don't win is accuse someone of bias! It's a human weakness. It's trying to take the easy way out, or make excuses for yourself, when it is really not accepting responsibility for your own behaviors.

That is why when you are a president or leader of any kind, you never want to look weak and accuse everything that didn't turn out for you on bias or politics.

The trick to success is to just don't do things that are wrong in the first place. If you keep your nose clean, then you don't have to worry about what the FBI or Congress does. Stay out of trouble- Don't cheat- Don't Lie!- Don't coverup!

That is my advice to someone like Donald Trump and all of his suckups!

Is there bias in the world? You can bet your ass there is! Because most people are biased against cheaters, liars, and corrupt people- especially when they are the ones that are put there to protect us from that kind of thing and they are the ones doing it!

SO cry me a river dude!
 
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