Scut Farkus
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profitting from increased incarceration is bad thing, one of those "unintended consequences" that's totally happening, yet ignored by greedy anti-human fascists like you. it's all bad, ya walking moral tragedy.
Why Are So Many Americans in Prison?
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profitting from increased incarceration is bad thing, one of those "unintended consequences" that's totally happening, yet ignored by greedy anti-human fascists like you. it's all bad, ya walking moral tragedy.
Cute meme but it makes no sense.
Cops still have to find criminals and prove it.
Judges sentence per legislated guidelines.
Fewer criminals = less crime. Society doesnt like crime.
If you dont like the laws/sentencing, change it. Blaming cost saving measures is not a winning stretegy.
Scut Farkus
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I'd like a law against private prisons. or prison labor. id like legalization of all drugs. or a law against imprisonment for all non violent crimes.
you keep being part of the fascist problem.
No one is in prison for simply marijuana use. And, do you really want to defend a heroin dealer as a poor victim of drug prohibition?
Well, possession, which is necessary in order to use 608,775 incarcerated
https://www.drugpolicy.org/issues/drug-war-statistics
StoneByStone
It's OK to Be White
Yes. In a free country, adults should be able to do whatever they want with their own bodies.
That says 608,755 were arrested for marijuana possession. It doesn't say they were incarcerated. None of them were imprisoned for possession per se.
So, you want to defend heroin dealers who kill people? Not just defend, but make them out to be some sort of heroes so you can sob about how awful it is that any of them would go to prison.
Legality is one thing. Championing scum, as you're doing, is another.
So many Americans are in prison because neggers love to steal your stuff.
In 2012, only 1% of federal inmates were locked up for drug possession, and most of those convictions had aggravating circumstances (e.g. they were pleaded down from more serious crimes). Even less than 1% now. You morons need to stop advertising how stupid you are by pretending that the drug war is what's filling up our prisons. Go watch the video in the OP before you vomit up your ignorance again.
In 2012, only 1% of federal inmates were locked up for drug possession, and most of those convictions had aggravating circumstances (e.g. they were pleaded down from more serious crimes). Even less than 1% now. You morons need to stop advertising how stupid you are by pretending that the drug war is what's filling up our prisons. Go watch the video in the OP before you vomit up your ignorance again.
You are correct, arrested, my bad. However, you can not state that none were imprisoned.
We also don’t have good data for state prisons — where more than 87 percent of US prison inmates are held, based on federal data. But we do know that a minority of state prisoners are in for drugs: In 2015, 3.4 percent of all state prisoners were in for drug possession and 11.7 percent were in for other drug-related crimes.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vo...juana-legalization-mass-incarceration-boehner
StoneByStone
It's OK to Be White
I didn't say I want to champion them. I said adults should be able to do what they want with their own bodies. I don't think people should do any drugs, but nobody should be arrested for choosing to do drugs.
The truth isn't racist, fuckface. Don't you know anything?
The NRA president laughs his Multi-millionaire ass off with each NRA membership check that he cashes. He plays the "gun whores" as bigger idiots than trump does. I actually think that these buffoons are worried that "The Redcoats are Coming".
Thank you, cockodile. Sometimes you gimps can make such a racket!
The truth is always racist.
Blacks have smaller brains. Blacks are much more violent than any other race. Blacks suck up welfare more than any other race. Blacks suck up the most medical services. Blacks default more on loans. Blacks make more insurance claims. Blacks pull down the academic performance of other races in the same classroom. Blacks have the lowest SAT scores. Blacks are ugly. Blacks constantly practice racial discrimination. Ad nauseum.
And, so many Americans are in prison because blacks like to steal your stuff.
StoneByStone
It's OK to Be White
I didn't say it was racist. Try to reread my comment. I said it's not just "the Left" that does this. It's the entire establishment that uses "racism" to justify the state of Blacks in America.
Arks&sparka
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It's actually not drugs. 45% a federal prisoners are incarcerated over drug charges. Federal prisons aren't the majority of prison most prisoners are being held in state prisons.
So you have about 96,000 people incarcerated in federal prison for drugs. And you have about 230,000 people incarcerated in state prisons for drugs. it's definitely the biggest chunk of the pie in both but it's nowhere near the majority. This isn't just smoking pot this is all drug offenses. I don't think people should be locked up for smoking pot. I don't know that they are in large numbers I didn't get that deep.
So we're talking 320000 people out of 1.7 million that's not even a quarter. 4 drug users would rehab be better sure but how many of these drug offenders are there 4th and 5th offense? Is sending them to rehab going to do anything if they've already done it three or four times?
If meth heads and people on PCP just stayed at home and got high that would be fine but they don't.
people who do meth in heroin and all this other stuff they have an extremely expensive habit and have you ever had anything stolen from you? Have you ever had your house burglarized nine times out of 10 it's someone feeding a drug habit.
I think it's good ideas catch them before they get there but some people you can't. This is what jail is for.
Not like I said if you have a drug problem and you want to get help I think a court-ordered rehab program for you is probably better than prison. If it's your third or fourth time you sit your ass in prison. This is to stop you from doing it again. I don't think it should be a life sentence, but if we gave you a first chance and maybe even a second one and you threw it away fuck off.
I think there may be something to Mental health. I think our society in general is sorely lacking in understanding of people with mental illness or just mental problems. and I think investing in that before people wind up in jail is probably more profitable than putting them in jail print the taxpayer at least. But nobody seems to give a s*** about that.
I'm not against prison reform I think it's desperately needed. but I think what is needed before that is social reform to stop people from getting to that point in the first place. We don't have to worry about how badly we treat our prisoners if there's no one there.
I think the big glaring problem that causes these problems mixed people turn to a life of crime is fatherless homes. Most of the people in prison are men. Most of them have traumatic childhoods. If we don't give a s*** about boys the population in prison is going to expand ever greater.
This is a big stinking messy problem that is not going to be easily solved but it is the way to address prison populations.
Arks&sparka
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I think it's condescending to say the state of blacks in America. We shouldn't be that balkanized. Black people are just people like anyone else they don't need a black community they need to be part of the larger community and as long as they're the blacks they're not. So they are going to feel alienated and they're not going to participate.
Are you understood this from back in the 60s but that should should have ended.
Most of the people I see doing this balkanizing are not really Democrats but there are far far left people social justice warrior types. There simply stoking the flames of hatred. Making this separate society of segregated black people.
because black lives matter not anyone else is just black because they're black not because they're human.
Don't get me wrong I don't think of this is done out of malice for black people I think it's done out of guilt. As if people today that weren't around in the 60s had anything to do with discrimination. I was born in the 80s the concept of that is alien to me. That's why I find these racist identity groups like black lives matter to be so horrifying.
Im not your legislative representative. You might have better luck with them.
By the way i agree we should legalize drug use so long as we keep government out of making it a revenue stream. Great way to sink gangs and by extention, crime.
Scut Farkus
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and we should get the government out of making human trafficking, kidnapping and slavery a revenue stream, a la incarceration.