Why can't they see that it's over?

NiftyNiblick said:
If individual people can be influenced by some perceived "establishment," that's a reflection on the deficient quality of the people.
People of adequate intellectual capacity see what's going on before the spin is applied...and then they recognize the spin.

America told their children that the theocratic pilgrims were great,
that the "pioneers" who committed genocide on the indigenous people were great,
and that freedom "of" rather than "from" religion was great.

The capable saw through it as seven-year-olds.
The rest fell into line, ready to be influenced by some "establishment" of their own perception.
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That's right, our complacency led to complicity. American exceptionalism is pushed on us at an early age. The breadbasket of America lined up to go kill Muslims. Quite a few came home maimed, disgruntled and unemployable, yet Biden is provoking WW3.
 
goat said:
That's right, our complacency led to complicity. American exceptionalism is pushed on us at an early age. The breadbasket of America lined up to go kill Muslims. Quite a few came home maimed, disgruntled and unemployable, yet Biden is provoking WW3.
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^^^
Psycho believes the Jews blew up the WTC with the help of the Bush administration.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
Trump was the tipping point.
His loss last time out doesn't mean that we've recovered. There's no recovery to be experienced for a nation that elects a Trump.

I thought that we could never have a president as bad as Dubya again, and in eight short years, we managed to go even worse.

At that point, I realized that it was over for America.
If you had a clear head, it was obvious to see.
Time to try something different, but we have too many Pollyanna optimists to realize the fact.
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What’s over is Fox and the Republican party



We won


America withstood a completely evil president



The system held


The people stood tall and heaved the evil
 
goat said:
That's right, our complacency led to complicity. American exceptionalism is pushed on us at an early age. The breadbasket of America lined up to go kill Muslims. Quite a few came home maimed, disgruntled and unemployable, yet Biden is provoking WW3.
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We are fighting the new Hitler ass crack dweller


We will win

With no help from your kind
 
Doc Dutch said:
Only fucking morons and psychotic losers don't understand WTC #7 burned and collapsed.

https://www.nist.gov/pao/questions-and-answers-about-nist-wtc-7-investigation
Questions and Answers about the NIST WTC 7 Investigation
When did WTC 7 collapse?
On Sept. 11, 2001, WTC 7 endured fires for almost seven hours, from the time of the collapse of the north WTC tower (WTC 1) at 10:28:22 a.m. until 5:20:52 p.m., when WTC 7 collapsed.

What caused the fires in WTC 7?
Debris from the collapse of WTC 1, which was 370 feet to the south, ignited fires on at least 10 floors in the building at its south and west faces. However, only the fires on some of the lower floors-7 through 9 and 11 through 13-burned out of control. These lower-floor fires-which spread and grew because the water supply to the automatic sprinkler system for these floors had failed-were similar to building fires experienced in other tall buildings. The primary and backup water supply to the sprinkler systems for the lower floors relied on the city's water supply, whose lines were damaged by the collapse of WTC 1 and WTC 2. These uncontrolled lower-floor fires eventually spread to the northeast part of WTC 7, where the building's collapse began.

How did the fires cause WTC 7 to collapse?
The heat from the uncontrolled fires caused steel floor beams and girders to thermally expand, leading to a chain of events that caused a key structural column to fail. The failure of this structural column then initiated a fire-induced progressive collapse of the entire building.

According to the report's probable collapse sequence, heat from the uncontrolled fires caused thermal expansion of the steel beams on the lower floors of the east side of WTC 7, damaging the floor framing on multiple floors.

Eventually, a girder on Floor 13 lost its connection to a critical column, Column 79, that provided support for the long floor spans on the east side of the building (see Diagram 1). The displaced girder and other local fire-induced damage caused Floor 13 to collapse, beginning a cascade of floor failures down to the 5th floor. Many of these floors had already been at least partially weakened by the fires in the vicinity of Column 79. This collapse of floors left Column 79 insufficiently supported in the east-west direction over nine stories.

The unsupported Column 79 then buckled and triggered an upward progression of floor system failures that reached the building's east penthouse. What followed in rapid succession was a series of structural failures. Failure first occurred all the way to the roof line-involving all three interior columns on the easternmost side of the building (79, 80, 81). Then, progressing from east to west across WTC 7, all of the columns failed in the core of the building (58 through 78). Finally, the entire façade collapsed.



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I have to admit


I will always wonder why it fell right into its own footprint

That is a MASSIVE coincidence


The Bush admin just lied about sooooo much and ignored completely these terror threats


I just wonder who was tipped off the attack was coming from some Saudi family member so they could easily reclaim the land and rebuild


It was the fact that it fell just like it had been imploded on purpose dutch


Not that it was destroyed


Money

People do unbelievable things for it
 
anonymoose said:
Trump has nothing to do with the worn out "tipping point" we've been hearing from the climate nazis.
We elected Nixon, Carter, Bush II and Obama. In spite of those abominations the system somehow works, and thrives. You prefer an autocrat for life?
No Bush was worse. Trump just has an incredibly bad personality.

You sound like Hawkeye.

Yes, polisqawker is in lala land.
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There are islands sinking below the rising water levels.
Climate change is real and lowlands are suffering from it. https://www.yahoo.com/now/sacred-sinking-tuvalu-minister-gives-122256215.html
 
goat said:
The establishment decides who we are allowed to vote for. Sanders was going to win the 2020 primary so Obama and Hillary stepped in to quash that. GWB and Liz Cheney have become the darlings of the democratic party. Think about that.
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Voters decided that Bernie was not the best choice


Bernie in fact was crawling with Russian support remember


He didn’t even know he was being boosted on line by Russians


Made him A very poor choice
 
evince said:
I have to admit


I will always wonder why it fell right into its own footprint

That is a MASSIVE coincidence


The Bush admin just lied about sooooo much and ignored completely these terror threats


I just wonder who was tipped off the attack was coming from some Saudi family member so they could easily reclaim the land and rebuild


It was the fact that it fell just like it had been imploded on purpose dutch


Not that it was destroyed


Money

People do unbelievable things for it
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Hundreds of investigators and engineers looked into this. There isn't a conspiracy to hide the truth since too many people know the truth.

I saw the same nutjobs making claims about TWA 800 being shot down by the Navy. Too many people investigated the accident for it not to be exactly what was found: faulty wiring arcing inside the empty centerline tank.
 
Right into its own footprint


The Bush admin was full of liars

Let’s remember what they tried to do to all the terror experts


Let’s remember what they tried to do to the DOJ

I just can’t trust completely anything they presided over any more than what trumps people did
 
evince said:
Pre weaken the correct beams with heat

How can that be determined after the fact
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Ask an engineer.

What is your theory? The Jews? Bush and Cheney planted explosives?

What would be the purpose of such an act? What would be the risk versus the reward of murdering 3000 Americans, not counting all those dying of asbestos-related cancer?
 
evince said:
I have to admit


I will always wonder why it fell right into its own footprint

That is a MASSIVE coincidence


The Bush admin just lied about sooooo much and ignored completely these terror threats


I just wonder who was tipped off the attack was coming from some Saudi family member so they could easily reclaim the land and rebuild


It was the fact that it fell just like it had been imploded on purpose dutch


Not that it was destroyed


Money

People do unbelievable things for it
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WCT-7 fell symmetrically at free-fall speed right into its own footprint. There's only one way for a steel frame high-rise to do that -- it's called a controlled implosion.
 
evince said:
What’s over is Fox and the Republican party



We won


America withstood a completely evil president



The system held


The people stood tall and heaved the evil
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I'm not even talking about evil, 'vince.

I'm talking about Americans not wanting the same things, whether we choose to apply value judgements or not.
We hate each other, 'vince, and you just don't see it,
even though it's everywhere.

The people? Where are these monolithic people of whom you speak?
You sound like Poli-talker sometimes.
You're "a true believer. "
I'm a realist.
 
goat said:
That's right, our complacency led to complicity. American exceptionalism is pushed on us at an early age. The breadbasket of America lined up to go kill Muslims. Quite a few came home maimed, disgruntled and unemployable, yet Biden is provoking WW3.
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It's a matter of perspective, though.
The middle east can cease to exist as far as I'm concerned.
Western Europe is worth protecting, even at the cost of WWIII and human extinction.

That's just my personal view.
We all see it differently.
We're not a united people in reality.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
I'll just leave this here as a reminder of what you did......
UNCONSTITUTIONAL.......
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^^^
Throws steel dinner plate against the wall.

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^^^
Wanna guess who doesn't get many birthday or Christmas cards?
 
NiftyNiblick said:
It's a matter of perspective, though.
The middle east can cease to exist as far as I'm concerned.
Western Europe is worth protecting, even at the cost of WWIII and human extinction.

That's just my personal view.
We all see it differently.
We're not a united people in reality.
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The working class are tired of gaslighting slogans like Hope and Change or Build Back Better. There are too many millennials still living with their parents and paying off their student loans. There's no way they can afford an apartment let alone a house. We can't blame this on that bogeyman Trump.

Millennials and Zoomers want a third party even if it means a republican victory in 2024. Desperate times call for direct actions like a General Strike or staying home in November 2024. There will be consequences for the lockdowns, breaking the rail strike, and East Palestine burn.
 
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