Why homosexuality should be banned

  • Thread starter Thread starter WinterBorn
  • Start date Start date
PostmodernProphet said:
what you said makes no sense interpreted in any other way....and I think YOU know it.....
Click to expand...

I said "It just means it is a hold over from a time when prejudices against gays were allowed", meaning the laws should be changed because they come from a time when those prejudices were allowed.

I was speaking of the law, not of straight people getting married.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
but you aren't looking for a change in the law based on sexual orientation....you are looking for a change in the laws with respect to "entering into the relationship".....as you admit, it's a choice....
Click to expand...

No, I am wanting to change the laws that restrict who can marry based solely on gender.

The ability to choose whether they enter into the relationship or the institution is not going to change.
 
As far as Government is concerned adults should be allowed to enter into any type of marriage arrangement they knowingly and voluntarily agree to enter and should be allowed to terminate any such agreement should one party so choose.

Without question no religen should be required to reconize or acknoledge such relationships.
 
Jarod said:
As far as Government is concerned adults should be allowed to enter into any type of marriage arrangement they knowingly and voluntarily agree to enter and should be allowed to terminate any such agreement should one party so choose.

Without question no religen should be required to reconize or acknoledge such relationships.
Click to expand...

Good point. No religious beliefs should be involved in the government's side of the issue. And if you take away religion, there is no reason to continue to ban gay marriage.
 
WinterBorn said:
Good point. No religious beliefs should be involved in the government's side of the issue. And if you take away religion, there is no reason to continue to ban gay marriage.
Click to expand...

Yup!

Did I just agree with an Alabama fan... War Eagle...!
 
WinterBorn said:
If the tax breaks were the only benefit, that might work. But they are not, as I have previously stated.

I am looking for equality for all people. At some point, that right that is being demanded will be given.
Click to expand...
no, you are not looking for equality for all people, you aren't looking at equality for single people....you aren't looking for equality for people who can't practice law in court.....you aren't looking for equality for people who can't take the Child Tax Credit.....
 
WinterBorn said:
I said "It just means it is a hold over from a time when prejudices against gays were allowed", meaning the laws should be changed because they come from a time when those prejudices were allowed.

I was speaking of the law, not of straight people getting married.
Click to expand...

and I am pointing out that the definition of marriage came into play with no thought whatsoever to gays or discrimination against them....why mess with it?.....why not just pass a law that gives gay couples benefits?.....it's because you want more than benefits....you want acceptance....you want 'normalcy'......
 
WinterBorn said:
No, I am wanting to change the laws that restrict who can marry based solely on gender.

The ability to choose whether they enter into the relationship or the institution is not going to change.
Click to expand...

the law doesn't restrict relationships.....you want the law changed so it acknowledges their choice in relationships....you have to change the institution to accomplish that.....
 
PostmodernProphet said:
no, you are not looking for equality for all people, you aren't looking at equality for single people....you aren't looking for equality for people who can't practice law in court.....you aren't looking for equality for people who can't take the Child Tax Credit.....
Click to expand...

I am not looking for single people to get married benefits, nor am I looking for people without children to be able to get Child Tax Credits. All of those things are nonsense and not even worthy of an argument.

I would argue for equality for anyone to be able to take the classes and attempt the bar exam if the qualified.

Your argument is the equivelent of not allowing people who have passed the classes and passed the bar to not be allowed to practice law.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
no, I said the straight couple earned the benefits by marrying....
Click to expand...

You said: "they aren't entitled to the same treatment as married people because they haven't 'earned' it".

The problem is, you also want to deny the the ability to earn it.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
and I am pointing out that the definition of marriage came into play with no thought whatsoever to gays or discrimination against them....why mess with it?.....why not just pass a law that gives gay couples benefits?.....it's because you want more than benefits....you want acceptance....you want 'normalcy'......
Click to expand...

I want them to be able to have the equality in the eyes of the gov't. What you or any other person thinks or accepts is not an issue.
 
WinterBorn said:
I am not looking for single people to get married benefits, nor am I looking for people without children to be able to get Child Tax Credits. All of those things are nonsense and not even worthy of an argument.

I would argue for equality for anyone to be able to take the classes and attempt the bar exam if the qualified.

Your argument is the equivelent of not allowing people who have passed the classes and passed the bar to not be allowed to practice law.
Click to expand...

but why shouldn't single people get marriage benefits?....all we have to do is change the definition of marriage to include single people.....and we could change the definition of passing the bar to include going INTO a bar.....it would make it more fun.....
 
PostmodernProphet said:
the law doesn't restrict relationships.....you want the law changed so it acknowledges their choice in relationships....you have to change the institution to accomplish that.....
Click to expand...

I want the law changed so it acknowledges their relationships as just as valid in the eyes of the gov't.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
but why shouldn't single people get marriage benefits?....all we have to do is change the definition of marriage to include single people.....and we could change the definition of passing the bar to include going INTO a bar.....it would make it more fun.....
Click to expand...

No you are arguing absurdities.
 
WinterBorn said:
You said: "they aren't entitled to the same treatment as married people because they haven't 'earned' it".

The problem is, you also want to deny the the ability to earn it.
Click to expand...

yes, and they earn it by marriage....but a relationship with someone of the same sex isn't "marriage".......
 
Jarod said:
As far as Government is concerned adults should be allowed to enter into any type of marriage arrangement they knowingly and voluntarily agree to enter and should be allowed to terminate any such agreement should one party so choose.

Without question no religen should be required to reconize or acknoledge such relationships.
Click to expand...
Queers aren't qualified to get married to each other. *shrug*
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top