Why homosexuality should be banned

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Jarod said:
Its not only about tax.

Its not forcing anything on anyone to allow people more choices.
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that's precisely the problem....it's about the left forcing the concept of gay marriage on everyone.....let them have a relationship, let them have laws regarding benefits, don't force everyone to pretend their relationship is "marriage"......
 
WinterBorn said:
It boils down to this; there is a group of people who fulfill all the qualifications of marriage except they are the same gender. They provide all the same benefits to society that straight couples do. (reproduction has already been discussed - either artificial insemination or adoption).

There is no logical reason to continue to deny them. There are good reasons to do so.
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there is a very logical reason to continue to deny them, they don't fill that qualification for marriage that you admit they don't fill.....they are of the same gender......

tell you what, here's a compromise for you.....we pass a law that says gay people can call their relationship a marriage, but the rest of us can ignore that if we choose to......
 
WinterBorn said:
What have they forced on you? When they changed the definition of marriage to include interracial couples it did not effect you. Neither would this change.
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the definition of marriage always included interracial couples.....that's why there were laws AGAINST interracial marriages.....we didn't need laws AGAINST gay marriage, gays need laws changing what marriage is in order to GET married....

if nothing is forced on me, you should have no problem with a provision in the law granting gay marriage that anyone who wants to ignore their marital status may do so......
 
PostmodernProphet said:
look, I understand you're having difficulty grasping the essence of this argument, but your repeated babbling isn't going to draw me away from it....I ignore people who don't realize this debate has nothing to do with race......

people don't choose to be black, people do choose to enter into a relationship with someone of the same sex.....

that's the last time I respond to your posts on that topic....
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But you fail, in your closed mindedness, that you're equating love and intimacy to a choice.
There is no supported proof that people CHOOSE to be gay. There is a bunch of convoluted opinions; but no proof.

I see my correlaction between your bigotry and the bigotry of the past has finally made you realize that your argument is unsound ; which is why you CHOOSE to turn away from it. :good4u:
 
PostmodernProphet said:
so, let's say I choose to think a pound equals 17 ounces....should I demand that the government redefine "pound" to mean 17 ounces?....changing to 'cubits' doesn't change the meaning of the word "foot"
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In order to make it equal, first the government needs to require a license to be able to measure a pound, using the bible or other various religious definitions it should then "define" the pound specifically, then keep recodifying it to protect what they think is the right.

They should make it so that white and black items that may weigh half-pound each can't be measured together to make one pound, for instance. Or only half-pounds with specific magnetic polarity can be weighed together to make a pound...

Then later when a different religion recognizes that two differently colored half-pounds still weigh a pound they need to change that law, or still alter when people realize that two items with the same magnetic polarity can still measure up to a pound they can "reject" it because the Bible says so...

Codifying your religion, or mine for that matter, into law to protect "traditions" or its "institutions" is not the place of government.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
there is a very logical reason to continue to deny them, they don't fill that qualification for marriage that you admit they don't fill.....they are of the same gender......

tell you what, here's a compromise for you.....we pass a law that says gay people can call their relationship a marriage, but the rest of us can ignore that if we choose to......
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As long as the gov't recognizes it, I doubt anyone would care who else reconizes it.
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
But you fail, in your closed mindedness, that you're equating love and intimacy to a choice.
There is no supported proof that people CHOOSE to be gay. There is a bunch of convoluted opinions; but no proof.

I see my correlaction between your bigotry and the bigotry of the past has finally made you realize that your argument is unsound ; which is why you CHOOSE to turn away from it. :good4u:
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I choose to conclude you are no better at understanding my arguments than you were on the previous page....I am not a bigot, there is no correlation between this issue and interracial marriage....choosing to try to "marry" and choosing to be gay are obviously not the same thing and could have conflicting conclusions.....
 
Southern Man said:
Are you attempting to say that you were not being condescending?
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Gee; that would depend on whether or not you're going to admit that you were being obtuse when you said you were unaware of the bigotry of those that were against inter-racial marriage, when you said that you didn't see where my comment was coming from. :good4u:
 
PostmodernProphet said:
basically we have no problem.....we aren't ignoring the problem, we are ignoring the liberals.....

they aren't entitled to the same treatment as married people because they haven't 'earned' it......you want to give it to them anyway.....yet, you have no 'problem' denying those rights to single people.....
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Haven't "earned" it.

I didn't realize it was a prize.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
that's precisely the problem....it's about the left forcing the concept of gay marriage on everyone.....let them have a relationship, let them have laws regarding benefits, don't force everyone to pretend their relationship is "marriage"......
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It is not just the left. I consider myself a centrist. And there are several rightwingers here arguing against you.

This is not just some leftist ideology.
 
Damocles said:
In order to make it equal, first the government needs to require a license to be able to measure a pound, using the bible or other various religious definitions it should then "define" the pound specifically, then keep recodifying it to protect what they think is the right.

They should make it so that white and black items that may weigh half-pound each can't be measured together to make one pound, for instance. Or only half-pounds with specific magnetic polarity can be weighed together to make a pound...

Then later when a different religion recognizes that two differently colored half-pounds still weigh a pound they need to change that law, or still alter when people realize that two items with the same magnetic polarity can still measure up to a pound they can "reject" it because the Bible says so...

Codifying your religion, or mine for that matter, into law to protect "traditions" or its "institutions" is not the place of government.
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I see no reason to keep bringing religion into it....I simply choose to say a pound equals 17 ounces....the government is not treating me fairly, since whenever I buy a pound of hamburger I am getting less than I bargain for and everyone else is getting what they bargain for....in truth, if the government uses my standard the rest of society will benefit, since they will all be getting MORE than they bargained for....I have been shown no logical reason why a pound should not equal 17 ounces and I have shown a logical reason why it should.....

what more should be necessary, unless you are a 16 ounce bigot!.......
 
PostmodernProphet said:
I choose to conclude you are no better at understanding my arguments than you were on the previous page....I am not a bigot, there is no correlation between this issue and interracial marriage....choosing to try to "marry" and choosing to be gay are obviously not the same thing and could have conflicting conclusions.....
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And for those who did not choose to be gay but were born that way?
 
WinterBorn said:
As long as the gov't recognizes it, I doubt anyone would care who else reconizes it.
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lol.....don't kid yourself.....here's an example....I have a company with several thousand employees....the government says that two men are married....I choose to ignore that and refuse to give insurance benefits that married people qualify for......nobody else would care?.....
 
PostmodernProphet said:
I see no reason to keep bringing religion into it....I simply choose to say a pound equals 17 ounces....the government is not treating me fairly, since whenever I buy a pound of hamburger I am getting less than I bargain for and everyone else is getting what they bargain for....in truth, if the government uses my standard the rest of society will benefit, since they will all be getting MORE than they bargained for....I have been shown no logical reason why a pound should not equal 17 ounces and I have shown a logical reason why it should.....

what more should be necessary, unless you are a 16 ounce bigot!.......
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My point was that the pound isn't defined by religion, while marriage is. And if it were, such would be the way it was codified.

The government should not be mucking about in religion to protect certain "traditions" or "institutions".

I'm not saying to change the law to define it differently, the government shouldn't have tried to define something that is religious to begin with.
 
WinterBorn said:
And for those who did not choose to be gay but were born that way?
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/boggle.....as far as I am aware ALL gay people are born that way...it's a genetically formed abnormal reaction to sexual stimulus.....just as alcoholism is an abnormal physical reaction to alcohol......
 
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