Why I doubt the election results

T. A. Gardner said:
The questions that nobody seems to be able to answer about this election is how the cumulative vote count for a candidate for office can go negative. Corollary to that is has this ever happened in recent previous elections before?

Neither question seems to get any sort of definitive or even rational answer. Instead it's crickets...
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Maybe it's because an irrational question has been asked.
 
Trumpet said:
Maybe it's because an irrational question has been asked.
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What is irrational about it? We have empirical evidence it happened in a number of parts of several key states. I've previously posted some of that evidence here, but it getting harder to find it on the internet as the election goes further into the past. That doesn't mean it doesn't and didn't exist, it did. What is lacking is an explanation for it.
 
Evmetro said:
It will NEVER be proven that Beijing Biden won in a free and fair election. This is because winning and stealing are not the same thing. Trump will forever be the only candidate who actually "won" the most votes from actual voters, while Beijing will remain the one who "received" the most votes from virtual voters, algorithms, and fake ballots. Beijing will NEVER be known as a winner.
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Trump said that Obama lost "by a lot," that Trump won the popular vote in 2016 and 2020 and said in advance if he did not win it would be because it was rigged. And his supporters believed him.

We don't have to prove Biden won in a free and fair election. Somebody has to prove there was fraud which nobody has been able to do---they only repeat the same "fraud" that is repeated every presidential election.
 
Nordberg said:
It did not happen except in the right-wing fantasy world. You guys are so desperate to believe trump won, that you are prone to believing anything.
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This isn't about who won or lost. It did happen, and I've shown examples of it right here. As I stated before, as the election goes into the past that data is getting harder to find but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. The question stands: Why did this happen in the 2020 election in a number of states and has it happened before in other elections?

You answer a serious question with ad hominem and insults. So typical of the Left when they get hit with a question or position they don't like.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
What is irrational about it? We have empirical evidence it happened in a number of parts of several key states. I've previously posted some of that evidence here, but it getting harder to find it on the internet as the election goes further into the past. That doesn't mean it doesn't and didn't exist, it did. What is lacking is an explanation for it.
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THIS JUST IN- vote totals change as more and more votes are counted!! hard to fucking believe, i know, but it happens. there was some video of a vote total for trump losing about 2000 votes but it was a raw vote total and the explanation was human error put them in the wrong category. are you saying when people are counting hundreds and thousands of votes, even millions, there are never any human errors, and if there are, it proves some sort of rigging or fraud? trump got his ass kicked...it was not especially close, overall. get over it.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
What is irrational about it? We have empirical evidence it happened in a number of parts of several key states. I've previously posted some of that evidence here, but it getting harder to find it on the internet as the election goes further into the past. That doesn't mean it doesn't and didn't exist, it did. What is lacking is an explanation for it.
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Empirical evidence tends to be subjective, and therefore is not conclusive proof.
 
Truth Detector said:
Here is why I doubt the election results. But most importantly, why any election using mail in ballots should be met with skepticism.

I find it very difficult to believe that an incompetent, unaccomplished, senile 79 year old racist could win with 80 million votes, bettering Obama by 15,367,303 votes. A guy who could barely fill a thimble of supporters at rallies and rarely came out of the basement or remember what office he was actually running for.

I find it very difficult to believe that Trump, garnering 74,222,958 votes, which beat a much more popular Obama by 8.307,163 votes and who had massive, enthusiastic crowds at his events, could lose an election by 7,060,140 votes.

I find it difficult to believe that Trump, who bettered his 2016 election WIN by 11,237,852 votes and would still lose.

I find it difficult to believe that a election turnout for Obama was 57.1% and 9.2% lower than this election at 66.3%. That's the highest turnout for a boring candidate in the history of the Republic.
Turnout increased in every state and in 98 percent of the nation’s counties.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/elections/voter-turnout/

I find it difficult to believe that Republicans INCREASED their House presence by 13 seats, yet Trump lost by such a large margin to a incompetent, unaccomplished, senile 79 year old racist.

BUT, leftists, being the low IQ, uneducated, gullible dumbasses that they are, show ZERO curiosity and merely parrot the dimwitted narratives they are fed by the PHONY media. They're incapable of thinking for themselves.

2018 Dems 212 Republicans 199
2020 Dems 222 Republicans 212

Obama 2012 - 65,915,796
Trump 2016 - 62,985,106
Biden 2020 - 81,283,098
Trump 2020 - 74,222,958
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very low grade
 
T. A. Gardner said:
This isn't about who won or lost. It did happen, and I've shown examples of it right here. As I stated before, as the election goes into the past that data is getting harder to find but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. The question stands: Why did this happen in the 2020 election in a number of states and has it happened before in other elections?

You answer a serious question with ad hominem and insults. So typical of the Left when they get hit with a question or position they don't like.
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No. You lose. Period, end of story. Each state has a process in place to conduct their elections, from how to vote, how to count the votes, how to dispute votes, when recounts take place, how the vote is certified, how electors are assigned, and what avenues (the courts) can be used to resolve disputes. The Federal Government has a process by which it counts and certifies the electoral vote. Your 'evidence' doesn't mean shit to any of that. It's meaningless. It has been summarily rejected by every entity that has authority to evaluate it. Therefore, you lose. You are a joke. You are like the guy who says 'I don't care what the instant replay and the scoreboard and the referees and the league say..... we won the Super Bowl!!!!!!!

No, no you didn't. You lost. Get over it.
 
I thoroughly enjoyed taunting lefties back in 2016 when Trump won with the majority of the kind of votes that matter, but unfortunately for lefties, they will never enjoy being able to enjoy the same taste of victory. Sure the transition of power thing is nice for lefties and all, but it is much more enjoyable to be able to flaunt real winning than it is to flaunt looted or stolen goods. Lefties will NEVER enjoy flaunting a fake victory in a fake election the way righties got to taunt lefties when Trump won in 2016. It will NEVER be the same thing.
 
Trumpet said:
Empirical evidence tends to be subjective, and therefore is not conclusive proof.
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I think we need more data on your mental state with that comment. Maybe we can start here:

https://www.quizony.com/how-insane-are-you/index.html

Empirical evidence is measurable and the whole basis for things like the scientific method.

Empirical evidence is information acquired by observation or experimentation. Scientists record and analyze this data. The process is a central part of the scientific method.
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https://www.livescience.com/21456-e...or,is a central part of the scientific method.

Stochastic evidence is subjective to some extent, and heuristic evidence is subjective.
 
Evmetro said:
I thoroughly enjoyed taunting lefties back in 2016 when Trump won with the majority of the kind of votes that matter, but unfortunately for lefties, they will never enjoy being able to enjoy the same taste of victory. Sure the transition of power thing is nice for lefties and all, but it is much more enjoyable to be able to flaunt real winning than it is to flaunt looted or stolen goods. Lefties will NEVER enjoy flaunting a fake victory in a fake election the way righties got to taunt lefties when Trump won in 2016. It will NEVER be the same thing.
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Projection. Your use of the word flaunt reveals everything. You think it's a contest. It isn't. It's about country and constitution. You've demonstrated clearly you care about neither. You only care about 'flaunting'.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
I think we need more data on your mental state with that comment. Maybe we can start here:

https://www.quizony.com/how-insane-are-you/index.html

Empirical evidence is measurable and the whole basis for things like the scientific method.


https://www.livescience.com/21456-e...or,is a central part of the scientific method.

Stochastic evidence is subjective to some extent, and heuristic evidence is subjective.
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"Empirical" means "based on observation or experience,"

But who's doing the observating??? Was the observer objective????????? In this case I strongly feel that the observer only care to see what he/she wanted to see.
 
Truth Detector said:
Here is why I doubt the election results. But most importantly, why any election using mail in ballots should be met with skepticism.

I find it very difficult to believe that an incompetent, unaccomplished, senile 79 year old racist could win with 80 million votes, bettering Obama by 15,367,303 votes. A guy who could barely fill a thimble of supporters at rallies and rarely came out of the basement or remember what office he was actually running for.

I find it very difficult to believe that Trump, garnering 74,222,958 votes, which beat a much more popular Obama by 8.307,163 votes and who had massive, enthusiastic crowds at his events, could lose an election by 7,060,140 votes.

I find it difficult to believe that Trump, who bettered his 2016 election WIN by 11,237,852 votes and would still lose.

I find it difficult to believe that a election turnout for Obama was 57.1% and 9.2% lower than this election at 66.3%. That's the highest turnout for a boring candidate in the history of the Republic.
Turnout increased in every state and in 98 percent of the nation’s counties.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/elections/voter-turnout/

I find it difficult to believe that Republicans INCREASED their House presence by 13 seats, yet Trump lost by such a large margin to a incompetent, unaccomplished, senile 79 year old racist.

BUT, leftists, being the low IQ, uneducated, gullible dumbasses that they are, show ZERO curiosity and merely parrot the dimwitted narratives they are fed by the PHONY media. They're incapable of thinking for themselves.

2018 Dems 212 Republicans 199
2020 Dems 222 Republicans 212

Obama 2012 - 65,915,796
Trump 2016 - 62,985,106
Biden 2020 - 81,283,098
Trump 2020 - 74,222,958
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I'm sure there are many, many things you have difficulty understanding. It doesn't mean such things are suspect. It does mean you're stupid.
 
Evmetro said:
I thoroughly enjoyed taunting lefties back in 2016 when Trump won with the majority of the kind of votes that matter, but unfortunately for lefties, they will never enjoy being able to enjoy the same taste of victory. Sure the transition of power thing is nice for lefties and all, but it is much more enjoyable to be able to flaunt real winning than it is to flaunt looted or stolen goods. Lefties will NEVER enjoy flaunting a fake victory in a fake election the way righties got to taunt lefties when Trump won in 2016. It will NEVER be the same thing.
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Some people just can't admit they lost.
 
Flash said:
Trump said that Obama lost "by a lot," that Trump won the popular vote in 2016 and 2020 and said in advance if he did not win it would be because it was rigged. And his supporters believed him.

We don't have to prove Biden won in a free and fair election. Somebody has to prove there was fraud which nobody has been able to do---they only repeat the same "fraud" that is repeated every presidential election.
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It will NEVER be proven that Beijing Biden won in a free and fair election. This is because winning and stealing are not the same thing. Trump will forever be the only candidate who actually "won" the most votes from actual voters, while Beijing will remain the one who "received" the most votes from virtual voters, algorithms, and fake ballots. Beijing will NEVER be known as a winner.
 
Concart said:
Projection. Your use of the word flaunt reveals everything. You think it's a contest. It isn't. It's about country and constitution. You've demonstrated clearly you care about neither. You only care about 'flaunting'.
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I thoroughly enjoyed taunting lefties back in 2016 when Trump won with the majority of the kind of votes that matter, but unfortunately for lefties, they will never enjoy being able to enjoy the same taste of victory. Sure the transition of power thing is nice for lefties and all, but it is much more enjoyable to be able to flaunt real winning than it is to flaunt looted or stolen goods. Lefties will NEVER enjoy flaunting a fake victory in a fake election the way righties got to taunt lefties when Trump won in 2016. It will NEVER be the same thing.
 
Port Tack said:
The right must be pretty fucking stupid if the election was stolen yet they could not come up with a shred of evidence to insinuate much less prove it.
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It took them a week to fraud up enough votes to beat Trump after election night. They had to count all the votes to get a number to beat.

When has an American election not been called on election night? Never before in my lifetime.

The cheating was planned and the media is complicit in it. The "press" started running cover for the cheat delay a month or two before the election.
 
Flash said:
Some people just can't admit they lost.
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It will NEVER be proven that Beijing Biden won in a free and fair election. This is because winning and stealing are not the same thing. Trump will forever be the only candidate who actually "won" the most votes from actual voters, while Beijing will remain the one who "received" the most votes from virtual voters, algorithms, and fake ballots. Beijing will NEVER be known as a winner.
 
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