Why I've stopped caring

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Concart

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In 2024, Republicans will install Donald Trump as President. This appears to be inevitable, and I have simply stopped caring. I'm an older white rich male. Personally, Trump doesn't impact me at all. however, the end of democracy that now seems inevitable will affect many people. Those people now need to step up and demand accountability from their leaders. I'm done. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. It won't happen. Republicans are spineless worms. Sadly, so are Democrats. Let's sum up:

We have no Voting Rights Act because spineless Democrats refused to eliminate the filibuster. McConnell will do away with it on day one in 2022. As a result, voting will no longer matter. State Legislatures will decide who is President. They won't care about the popular vote. They've already made that crystal clear.

We have no 'Build Back Better' legislation because Democrats couldn't sell air conditioners in Texas. They think the moral high ground is good enough. They refuse to engage in the fight.

Abortion rights in this country are gone because Democrats let Mitch McConnell pick and choose when Supreme Court picks could be confirmed. Everyone in the Democratic party cried foul and did exactly nothing. Gay marriage is next.

And now, there is a suggestion that in the face of overwhelming evidence that Trump committed multiple crimes, everyone is too worried about how it will look to actually hold him accountable for those crimes. I am no longer willing to help people who refuse to help themselves. Don't get vaxxed. Don't wear masks. Make up phony claims about election fraud. Have at it. I'm going to sit on a beach with a cocktail. If those who are impacted by this slow motion coup don't care then neither do I. Have fun. It was a great country while it lasted. It's over.
 
Hey, I lived thru Nixon and Reagon, Trump is just the latest, plus, myself and my whole family have dual citizenship with skilled professions, things get that bad, I'm off to Eire till common sense prevails
 
what a baby. we still live in a world where democratic scandals are swept under the rug.

you got that going for you still
 
Democrats didn't refuse to eliminate the filibuster. Sinema and Manchin did.

Biden should have had them both executed on the White House lawn.
The pay per view buys alone would enrich the treasury.

There are no moderate solutions to our many, many immoderate problems.
We'll continue to tumble toward third world status unless somebody with both the balls and brains to purge anti-progressive elements sits in the Oval Office.

It is appearing that as a social experiment, America has turned out to be a swing and a miss. Che vergogna.
 
zymurgy said:
what a baby. we still live in a world where democratic scandals are swept under the rug.

you got that going for you still
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Now are these all those "scandals" that have been conspiratorialized but never proven? Innuendo aren't real until they are proven, and no on can disprove that which has yet to be proven. Besides, there exists factual documentation and visual evidence of the events "concart" dreads
 
NiftyNiblick said:
Democrats didn't refuse to eliminate the filibuster. Sinema and Manchin did.

Biden should have had them both executed on the White House lawn.
The pay per view buys alone would enrich the treasury.

There are no moderate solutions to our many, many immoderate problems.
We'll continue to tumble toward third world status unless somebody with both the balls and brains to purge anti-progressive elements sits in the Oval Office.

It is appearing that as a social experiment, America has turned out to be a swing and a miss. Che vergonia.
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Not sure about the executing part, that would only endorse the scenario "concart" dreads, and one thing you are correct regarding the filibuster, the Democrats stepped away, but you can pretty much bet your house that if the GOP take the Senate and Presidency in 2024 one of the first thing Mitch will do is kill the filibuster
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
I often feel just like you do, Concart. May I join you on the beach? :clink:
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Pretending You Don’t Care Won’t Keep You From Getting Hurt.

This is a defense mechanism because the mid terms are coming fast, and you don't want to be hurt, but will be hurt.
 
zymurgy said:
Pretending You Don’t Care Won’t Keep You From Getting Hurt.

This is a defense mechanism because the mid terms are coming fast, and you don't want to be hurt, but will be hurt.
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Nah, two years later there is another election, and two years later another election, pendulum swings both ways, live thru enough of them and you've experienced everything
 
Concart said:
In 2024, Republicans will install Donald Trump as President. This appears to be inevitable, and I have simply stopped caring. I'm an older white rich male. Personally, Trump doesn't impact me at all. however, the end of democracy that now seems inevitable will affect many people. Those people now need to step up and demand accountability from their leaders. I'm done. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. It won't happen. Republicans are spineless worms. Sadly, so are Democrats. Let's sum up:

We have no Voting Rights Act because spineless Democrats refused to eliminate the filibuster. McConnell will do away with it on day one in 2022. As a result, voting will no longer matter. State Legislatures will decide who is President. They won't care about the popular vote. They've already made that crystal clear.

We have no 'Build Back Better' legislation because Democrats couldn't sell air conditioners in Texas. They think the moral high ground is good enough. They refuse to engage in the fight.

Abortion rights in this country are gone because Democrats let Mitch McConnell pick and choose when Supreme Court picks could be confirmed. Everyone in the Democratic party cried foul and did exactly nothing. Gay marriage is next.

And now, there is a suggestion that in the face of overwhelming evidence that Trump committed multiple crimes, everyone is too worried about how it will look to actually hold him accountable for those crimes. I am no longer willing to help people who refuse to help themselves. Don't get vaxxed. Don't wear masks. Make up phony claims about election fraud. Have at it. I'm going to sit on a beach with a cocktail. If those who are impacted by this slow motion coup don't care then neither do I. Have fun. It was a great country while it lasted. It's over.
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We know who your boogeyman is.

I don't think Trump is a shoe-in for the presidency in 2024 and I was a yuge supporter. I think he *could* have been if he had handled things differently and with grace. But he didn't, so there is that.

But will the dems get trashed in the mid-terms? Most definitely.
 
archives said:
Nah, two years later there is another election, and two years later another election, pendulum swings both ways, live thru enough of them and you've experienced everything
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Trump was an overreaction to Obama.
Dims overreacted to MAGA.
I see republicans already overreacting to Brandon a bit with their losing stance against Roe v Wade. Not enough to hurt them in the midterms since dims have completely fucked up everything in site in less than two years. But the bloodbath will be so great I'm afraid the far right will see it as a mandate for their brand of extremism rather than seeing it for what it is and that's a complete repudiation of democrats.
 
anonymoose said:
Trump was an overreaction to Obama.
Dims overreacted to MAGA.
I see republicans already overreacting to Brandon a bit with their losing stance against Roe v Wade. Not enough to hurt them in the midterms since dims have completely fucked up everything in site in less than two years. But the bloodbath will be so great I'm afraid the far right will see it as a mandate for their brand of extremism rather than seeing it for what it is and that's a complete repudiation of democrats.
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To call Trump an overreaction to Obama is label Trump's victory aided by racism, and Biden won largely cause Trump fucked up Covid, just about any Democrat who ran in 2020 would have won

And the Democrats will lose the House in November, not because they supposedly screwed up the country, nothing could be further from the truth, but rather because of demographic and historical realities, plus the reality of an unavoidable inflation, and where it goes from there depends upon how big the GOP numbers are, the whackos only call the shots if they have a considerable majority within their own delegation
 
Oh Please.....The WOKE Revolution has been winning almost all across the board. Thing is no matter how badly they beat down others it is never enough, they always need more authoritarianism and brutality.
 
Since Russians have a deep and intense history of dealing with adversity and totalitarianism, I frequently find it inspiring to read the insights of Russian liberals. I get a lot of perspective from people who are used to dealing with way more adversity than I ever have. Russian liberals are very philosophical, and even religious about how to cope with adversity and facsism



Putin's Russia -- Posted in Moscow, 18 April 2022

We are in the worst form of injury - it is lasting and it's duration is completely uncertain. One cannot calculate it's strength in advance. There is no consensus in the community that what happened to us is monstrous and abnormal. This type of trauma is most crippling because you can't talk about your pain, you can't complain and have public support. It's impossible to stand up and run after this injury.

Let us hold onto memories of a past, normal life. Because trauma casts a shadow on the past trying to destroy it. But it was real , and the 'real life' - it is as it was then, but not at all what it is now. And there will be a time when new events, new achievements - give birth, planted, built - will overlap past traumatic events and begin to rewrite the plot. We will no longer be "the people at war" we will be someone else.

What we are seeing is not the manifestation of world evil. No satanic abyss in the human soul. We can always recognize the devil by his tail and claws. All this is done at the hands of functionaries, officials. Yes, people have disconnected themselves from reality. Lack of a system of restraints and balances, concentration of power in one hand, lack of electoral rotation, destruction of independent expertise - all of this led to the bureaucracy which went the wrong way.

This is not what you may want to hear: but human evil is corrected by tiny, tedious baby steps. The legal ones. In personnel. Educational. Don't romanticize evil. We'll have to fix it, and it's going to be a long, hard time.

The level of violence and crime has really decreased in our society, and the younger generations have different values. The future is coming along. Imperial nostalgia is a thing of the past. Now imagine the older generation. You can feel the sands of time slipping through your fingers. You are the last defenders of the fortress. Those following behind you are not acceptable to you. It is impossible to come to terms that it is time for you to leave and for them to bloom. But time is unstoppable and life will win.
 
archives said:
To call Trump an overreaction to Obama is label Trump's victory aided by racism,
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So you're saying the country was racist in 2016 but not in 2008 or 2012? Yeah, sure. You're making excuses. You forget that Obama was not very popular while president , his approval ratings only went up when the two most hated people in the entire country ran against each other.
archives said:
And the Democrats will lose the House in November, not because they supposedly screwed up the country, nothing could be further from the truth, but rather because of demographic
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Demographic realities? I thought whites becoming a minority was going to keep dims in control for centuries. But never underestimate any political party going too far with their agenda to piss off any demographic. Dims have lost Hispanics, and more and more republican blacks are in congressional seats. which can only attract more blacks to the red team.
archives said:
and historical realities,
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Yes, the Nov. midterms will be historic and a reality.
archives said:
plus the reality of an unavoidable inflation,
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Totally avoidable. We're still seeing the effects of paying people more to stay home than to work which not only created underemployment but rampant inflation. Germany, BTW, isn't having the same underemployment that we have. They handled the lockdowns far better. I can explain if you want.
archives said:
and where it goes from there depends upon how big the GOP numbers are, the whackos only call the shots if they have a considerable majority within their own delegation
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Agree with you on that. I'm already sweating the possibility that Palin will win the congressional seat vacated by Don Young.
 
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archives said:
Nah, two years later there is another election, and two years later another election, pendulum swings both ways, live thru enough of them and you've experienced everything
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Won’t hurt me. I know exactly what is happening. No one is trying to hide it. Elections are going to be a thing of the past. I have a ton of money, great health and a smoking hot wife. Belize is pretty nice. I’ll have another pina colada. Enjoy your reality star dictator.
 
anonymoose said:
So you're saying the country was racist in 2016 but not in 2008 or 2012? Yeah, sure. You're making excuses. You forget that Obama was not very popular while president , his approval ratings only went up when the two most hated people in the entire country ran against each other.
Demographic realities? I thought whites becoming a minority was going to keep dims in control for centuries. But never underestimate any political party going too far with their agenda to piss off any demographic. Dims have lost Hispanics, and more and more republican blacks are in congressional seats. which can only attract more blacks to the red team. Yes, the Nov. midterms will be historic and a reality. Totally avoidable. We're still seeing the effects of paying people more to stay home than to work which not only created underemployment but rampant inflation. Germany, BTW, isn't having the same underemployment that we have. They handled the lockdowns far better. I can explain if you want. Agree with you on that. I'm already sweating the possibility that Palin will win the congressional seat vacated by Don Young.
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This is why it’s hopeless. A guy who thinks he knows more about the economy than an economist. Inflation is everywhere. Did Biden cause it in Europe too?
 
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