Dixie - In Memoriam
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I saw the idiotic thread today, about why Romney won't repeal Obamacare. I wanted to let it run its course, and then post this thread to help educate the confused. First off, there is no such thing really, as "Obamacare." That being a fact of the matter here, one could conceivably argue it can't be repealed because it really doesn't exist. There are provisions in the ACA bill passed by Congress, which have already gone into effect, and I am not sure how easy it would be to repeal those, or if we even WANT to repeal them. So a sliver of "Obamacare" will probably live on in some form, to some degree. This is important to remember, because it is what Liberals will use to claim that Romney didn't 'repeal' it. There are other provisions in the bill, which need modification, but they can remain intact otherwise... again, Liberals can argue that Romney has reneged on his promise, if even the slightest HINT of Obamacare remains, and that is precisely what they plan to do. Expect this to happen.
What Romney has said, is that he will issue a waiver to all 50 states, that releases them from obligation to comply with the act. In recent speeches, he has modified that to 'repeal and replace' language, which in my opinion, is a bit more aggressive and harder to do. Still, he promises to have a fairly nice majority in the House, and probably a majority in the Senate too, if things turn out like 2010 for Dems. It's very possible the Congress could simply repeal the ACA in full, even including portions which have already gone into effect.
Now.... here is why you need not believe Liberals claiming Romney won't repeal Obamacare... Romney is a former governor of Massachusetts... the most liberal of states... As governor, he signed a law into effect that Obama claims was the model for Obamacare. Mr. Romney has spend the better part of 5 years now, running for president and having to defend his past. In order to win his party's nomination, he had to strongly oppose Obamacare, and make the case why he could be trusted to get rid of it. He continues to present "repeal Obamacare" as his campaign centerpiece. Now Liberals can delude themselves into believing what they want, there is no way on God's green earth that Romney is going to back out on teh centerpiece of his campaign, or alter his position. It is MORE likely that Obama would repeal Obamacare, if reelected. (Pinheads, please avoid misinterpretations with that--I am making a point about the chances of Romney not repealing Obamacare... that's how low they are... there's a better chance of Obama repealing it, than Romney NOT repealing it.) Now think about this, if the RIGHT were out there running around starting threads about how Obama was going to repeal Obamacare if he won re-election... would you buy that? Probably not, right? But what you may think, is that Republicans sure want people to believe that for some reason.
Let's take a look at why some Liberals are being so absurdly ridiculous with this. It's to convince you there is no need to vote for Romney, because he won't do what he said, he won't repeal Obamacare. You see, Liberals watch the polls... it's what they live by! They have seen the polls, and they know this Obamacare thing isn't very popular, and they realize a LOT of people are going to turn out in November to put an end to it. But if they can convince some of you that Romney is a snake in the grass who won't do what he promised, then just maaaaaaybe it'll be enough to tip the scales in the Big O's favor on election night. So that's ALL this is about, making you less inclined to go vote for Romney, if you beef is Obamacare. The absurdity of this on it's face, is enough to draw a belly-laugh, but they are serious! They think we are THAT fucking stupid, that we will be so gullible as to believe, this man has spent all this time and energy deflecting criticisms for his health care plan in Mass., has waged a brutal primary and prevailed with a never-wavering commitment to get rid of Obamacare on Day 1, is somehow going to pull the all-time greatest mother of all flip-flops as soon as elected.
It's not gonna go down that way, and they know this.
What Romney has said, is that he will issue a waiver to all 50 states, that releases them from obligation to comply with the act. In recent speeches, he has modified that to 'repeal and replace' language, which in my opinion, is a bit more aggressive and harder to do. Still, he promises to have a fairly nice majority in the House, and probably a majority in the Senate too, if things turn out like 2010 for Dems. It's very possible the Congress could simply repeal the ACA in full, even including portions which have already gone into effect.
Now.... here is why you need not believe Liberals claiming Romney won't repeal Obamacare... Romney is a former governor of Massachusetts... the most liberal of states... As governor, he signed a law into effect that Obama claims was the model for Obamacare. Mr. Romney has spend the better part of 5 years now, running for president and having to defend his past. In order to win his party's nomination, he had to strongly oppose Obamacare, and make the case why he could be trusted to get rid of it. He continues to present "repeal Obamacare" as his campaign centerpiece. Now Liberals can delude themselves into believing what they want, there is no way on God's green earth that Romney is going to back out on teh centerpiece of his campaign, or alter his position. It is MORE likely that Obama would repeal Obamacare, if reelected. (Pinheads, please avoid misinterpretations with that--I am making a point about the chances of Romney not repealing Obamacare... that's how low they are... there's a better chance of Obama repealing it, than Romney NOT repealing it.) Now think about this, if the RIGHT were out there running around starting threads about how Obama was going to repeal Obamacare if he won re-election... would you buy that? Probably not, right? But what you may think, is that Republicans sure want people to believe that for some reason.
Let's take a look at why some Liberals are being so absurdly ridiculous with this. It's to convince you there is no need to vote for Romney, because he won't do what he said, he won't repeal Obamacare. You see, Liberals watch the polls... it's what they live by! They have seen the polls, and they know this Obamacare thing isn't very popular, and they realize a LOT of people are going to turn out in November to put an end to it. But if they can convince some of you that Romney is a snake in the grass who won't do what he promised, then just maaaaaaybe it'll be enough to tip the scales in the Big O's favor on election night. So that's ALL this is about, making you less inclined to go vote for Romney, if you beef is Obamacare. The absurdity of this on it's face, is enough to draw a belly-laugh, but they are serious! They think we are THAT fucking stupid, that we will be so gullible as to believe, this man has spent all this time and energy deflecting criticisms for his health care plan in Mass., has waged a brutal primary and prevailed with a never-wavering commitment to get rid of Obamacare on Day 1, is somehow going to pull the all-time greatest mother of all flip-flops as soon as elected.
It's not gonna go down that way, and they know this.
