Why the U.S. Economy Is Trouncing Europe’s

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I post this opinion piece because I think it is insightful but also since we have a number of people who prefer what Europe offers compared to the U.S. it gets the ideological battle flowing.


Why the U.S. Economy Is Trouncing Europe’s

Americans do worse in education scores, but the Continent lacks the U.S. risk-taking culture.


Economists never cite one of the most significant statistics about the U.S. economy. According to data released last week by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, only about 12% of Americans score at the highest levels on internationally administered academic tests, while 34% score at the lowest levels—nearly three low scorers for every high scorer. Germany’s figures are nearly even: 18% score at the highest levels and 20% at the lowest. Put another way, Germany’s ratio of high to low scorers is almost three times America’s. Scandinavia’s is five times; Japan’s, seven.

These enormous differences have profound economic implications. With more talent and fewer needy people, is it any wonder that Northern European countries can afford more-generous welfare policies than their neighbors to the south?

Yet America excels relative to Europe despite these enormous differences. While Europe has created 14 companies worth more than $10 billion in the past 50 years, with about $400 billion of market value in total, Americans have created nearly 250 such companies, worth $30 trillion.

That success has driven up America’s middle-class incomes. The median disposable U.S. household income, according to the OECD, is now 25% greater than the median German household and 60% greater than the median household in Italy.

Europeans’ incomes would be even lower if they weren’t free-riding on American innovation, defense spending and higher drug prices, which incentivize research. America’s median incomes would be higher if we had more talent devoted to supervising and creating jobs for blue-collar workers or Northern Europe-like distribution of test scores.

The outsize success of America’s talented entrepreneurs doesn’t stem from their superior intelligence. It comes from working at companies such as Google and Microsoft, which mine the technological frontier and expose employees to valuable knowledge, insights and opportunities. Apple is worth more than the 30 largest German companies combined. Apple’s employees and its alumni use their knowledge and training to create more value than their counterparts in Europe.

Unlike Europe, the enormous success of American entrepreneurs motivated an army of talented Americans to get valuable on-the-job training, work longer hours, take risks and succeed. A small amount of success bubbles up from a large pool of failure.

The belief that taxing success more heavily will scarcely slow inevitable progress ignores the importance of being first to market and founding successful companies in America rather than the rest of the world, the enormous difference in the training and expected payoffs for successful risk-taking that it creates for America’s talented workers, and the motivational effect higher expected payoffs for successful risk-taking have on our talented workers.

Studies of short-term tax elasticity laughably miss the enormous difference between the success of the U.S. and Europe. Even if Europe cut its tax rates, it would have a trivial short-term effect on the expected returns to risk-taking, because without companies such as Google, entrepreneurs wouldn’t come up with ideas worthy of investment regardless of the tax rate. It takes decades of successful risk-taking to create companies and workers who can spawn the next generation of success.

The argument that we can heavily tax the tail of the distribution of payoffs without discouraging prudent risk-taking—since entrepreneurs such as Bill Gates and Steve Jobs took risks without expecting the enormous success they achieved—fails to recognize that outsize payoffs at the tail of the distribution critically drive overall expected risk-adjusted returns above break-even. Even with these successes, the returns to venture capital over the last 20 years have been mediocre at best.

When entrepreneurs capture as little as 5% of the value they create for others, it makes little sense to encourage successful risk-takers to quit working long before they achieve outsize success. With the effect technological success has on the productivity of talented American workers, who are our constraint to growth, and the effect of their productivity on the growth of middle-class incomes relative to Europe, that’s not a “policy failure.”

The fastest way to accelerate America’s growth and increase tax revenues is to let high-skilled immigration expand our talent pool. Forty percent of America’s billion-dollar startups were founded by high-skilled immigrants—roughly the same percentage of STEM doctorates held by foreign-born American workers.

Mr. Conard is a fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, a retired Bain Capital partner, and publisher of Macro Roundup.


 
Fascinating. So millions of deplorable garbage voted for Trump because they believe our economy is in ruins, but suddenly now it's not?
That's not what the column is about.

From above: Yet America excels relative to Europe despite these enormous differences. While Europe has created 14 companies worth more than $10 billion in the past 50 years, with about $400 billion of market value in total, Americans have created nearly 250 such companies, worth $30 trillion.

America's economy has not been a hockey stick for 50 years. We have had many ups and downs but on the whole we are still much better off than Europe. So two things can be true; we are still much better off than Europe but that doesn't necessarily mean things are going well in the U.S. at the present time.
 
Board ditz strikes again.
:facepalm:
I'm not going to say I've never done it but yeah, it's a case of responding to a headline and not reading the article.

It's a long-term big picture view of how we operate this country (compared to Europe) which explains why our economy performs better. I know there are still people who would prefer the European model (I'm reminded of the 2016 Democratic debate when Hillary said to Bernie 'we are not Denmark')
 
I post this opinion piece because I think it is insightful but also since we have a number of people who prefer what Europe offers compared to the U.S. it gets the ideological battle flowing.


Why the U.S. Economy Is Trouncing Europe’s

Americans do worse in education scores, but the Continent lacks the U.S. risk-taking culture.


Economists never cite one of the most significant statistics about the U.S. economy. According to data released last week by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, only about 12% of Americans score at the highest levels on internationally administered academic tests, while 34% score at the lowest levels—nearly three low scorers for every high scorer. Germany’s figures are nearly even: 18% score at the highest levels and 20% at the lowest. Put another way, Germany’s ratio of high to low scorers is almost three times America’s. Scandinavia’s is five times; Japan’s, seven.

These enormous differences have profound economic implications. With more talent and fewer needy people, is it any wonder that Northern European countries can afford more-generous welfare policies than their neighbors to the south?

Yet America excels relative to Europe despite these enormous differences. While Europe has created 14 companies worth more than $10 billion in the past 50 years, with about $400 billion of market value in total, Americans have created nearly 250 such companies, worth $30 trillion.

That success has driven up America’s middle-class incomes. The median disposable U.S. household income, according to the OECD, is now 25% greater than the median German household and 60% greater than the median household in Italy.

Europeans’ incomes would be even lower if they weren’t free-riding on American innovation, defense spending and higher drug prices, which incentivize research. America’s median incomes would be higher if we had more talent devoted to supervising and creating jobs for blue-collar workers or Northern Europe-like distribution of test scores.

The outsize success of America’s talented entrepreneurs doesn’t stem from their superior intelligence. It comes from working at companies such as Google and Microsoft, which mine the technological frontier and expose employees to valuable knowledge, insights and opportunities. Apple is worth more than the 30 largest German companies combined. Apple’s employees and its alumni use their knowledge and training to create more value than their counterparts in Europe.

Unlike Europe, the enormous success of American entrepreneurs motivated an army of talented Americans to get valuable on-the-job training, work longer hours, take risks and succeed. A small amount of success bubbles up from a large pool of failure.

The belief that taxing success more heavily will scarcely slow inevitable progress ignores the importance of being first to market and founding successful companies in America rather than the rest of the world, the enormous difference in the training and expected payoffs for successful risk-taking that it creates for America’s talented workers, and the motivational effect higher expected payoffs for successful risk-taking have on our talented workers.

Studies of short-term tax elasticity laughably miss the enormous difference between the success of the U.S. and Europe. Even if Europe cut its tax rates, it would have a trivial short-term effect on the expected returns to risk-taking, because without companies such as Google, entrepreneurs wouldn’t come up with ideas worthy of investment regardless of the tax rate. It takes decades of successful risk-taking to create companies and workers who can spawn the next generation of success.

The argument that we can heavily tax the tail of the distribution of payoffs without discouraging prudent risk-taking—since entrepreneurs such as Bill Gates and Steve Jobs took risks without expecting the enormous success they achieved—fails to recognize that outsize payoffs at the tail of the distribution critically drive overall expected risk-adjusted returns above break-even. Even with these successes, the returns to venture capital over the last 20 years have been mediocre at best.

When entrepreneurs capture as little as 5% of the value they create for others, it makes little sense to encourage successful risk-takers to quit working long before they achieve outsize success. With the effect technological success has on the productivity of talented American workers, who are our constraint to growth, and the effect of their productivity on the growth of middle-class incomes relative to Europe, that’s not a “policy failure.”

The fastest way to accelerate America’s growth and increase tax revenues is to let high-skilled immigration expand our talent pool. Forty percent of America’s billion-dollar startups were founded by high-skilled immigrants—roughly the same percentage of STEM doctorates held by foreign-born American workers.

Mr. Conard is a fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, a retired Bain Capital partner, and publisher of Macro Roundup.


Thanks for posting.
I would also assume the US is still the leader because of our natural resources. Our ability to produce low cost energy for ourselves is unrivaled. This gives us a lot of independence. Hopefully, this upcoming administration will push further to keep us less dependent on critical products we currently are purchasing offshore.
 
I'm not going to say I've never done it but yeah, it's a case of responding to a headline and not reading the article.

It's a long-term big picture view of how we operate this country (compared to Europe) which explains why our economy performs better. I know there are still people who would prefer the European model (I'm reminded of the 2016 Democratic debate when Hillary said to Bernie 'we are not Denmark')
I have many relatives in Germany and an old commercial landlord of mine was German.
The landlord had no credit or debit cards - paid cash with everything and would cash checks w/ the bank teller.
I try to tell my daughter she HAS to invest in the stock market (mutual funds, whatever, don't mean 'play' the market) and they just continue to put their money in a savings account because it's 'safe'. I've tried to explain to them that the bank is taking advantage of them ( I don't dare say 'stupidity')
It's a cultural mentality thing w/ them.
 
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Thanks for posting.
I would also assume the US is still the leader because of our natural resources. Our ability to produce low cost energy for ourselves is unrivaled. This gives us a lot of independence. Hopefully, this upcoming administration will push further to keep us less dependent on critical products we currently are purchasing offshore.
I hear you but they didn't mention natural resources. Natural resources certainly help, but I also think of the 'resource curse' (countries with more natural resources often have worse economies than those with less).
 
I post this opinion piece because I think it is insightful but also since we have a number of people who prefer what Europe offers compared to the U.S. it gets the ideological battle flowing.


Why the U.S. Economy Is Trouncing Europe’s

Americans do worse in education scores, but the Continent lacks the U.S. risk-taking culture.


Economists never cite one of the most significant statistics about the U.S. economy. According to data released last week by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, only about 12% of Americans score at the highest levels on internationally administered academic tests, while 34% score at the lowest levels—nearly three low scorers for every high scorer. Germany’s figures are nearly even: 18% score at the highest levels and 20% at the lowest. Put another way, Germany’s ratio of high to low scorers is almost three times America’s. Scandinavia’s is five times; Japan’s, seven.

These enormous differences have profound economic implications. With more talent and fewer needy people, is it any wonder that Northern European countries can afford more-generous welfare policies than their neighbors to the south?

Yet America excels relative to Europe despite these enormous differences. While Europe has created 14 companies worth more than $10 billion in the past 50 years, with about $400 billion of market value in total, Americans have created nearly 250 such companies, worth $30 trillion.

That success has driven up America’s middle-class incomes. The median disposable U.S. household income, according to the OECD, is now 25% greater than the median German household and 60% greater than the median household in Italy.

Europeans’ incomes would be even lower if they weren’t free-riding on American innovation, defense spending and higher drug prices, which incentivize research. America’s median incomes would be higher if we had more talent devoted to supervising and creating jobs for blue-collar workers or Northern Europe-like distribution of test scores.

The outsize success of America’s talented entrepreneurs doesn’t stem from their superior intelligence. It comes from working at companies such as Google and Microsoft, which mine the technological frontier and expose employees to valuable knowledge, insights and opportunities. Apple is worth more than the 30 largest German companies combined. Apple’s employees and its alumni use their knowledge and training to create more value than their counterparts in Europe.

Unlike Europe, the enormous success of American entrepreneurs motivated an army of talented Americans to get valuable on-the-job training, work longer hours, take risks and succeed. A small amount of success bubbles up from a large pool of failure.

The belief that taxing success more heavily will scarcely slow inevitable progress ignores the importance of being first to market and founding successful companies in America rather than the rest of the world, the enormous difference in the training and expected payoffs for successful risk-taking that it creates for America’s talented workers, and the motivational effect higher expected payoffs for successful risk-taking have on our talented workers.

Studies of short-term tax elasticity laughably miss the enormous difference between the success of the U.S. and Europe. Even if Europe cut its tax rates, it would have a trivial short-term effect on the expected returns to risk-taking, because without companies such as Google, entrepreneurs wouldn’t come up with ideas worthy of investment regardless of the tax rate. It takes decades of successful risk-taking to create companies and workers who can spawn the next generation of success.

The argument that we can heavily tax the tail of the distribution of payoffs without discouraging prudent risk-taking—since entrepreneurs such as Bill Gates and Steve Jobs took risks without expecting the enormous success they achieved—fails to recognize that outsize payoffs at the tail of the distribution critically drive overall expected risk-adjusted returns above break-even. Even with these successes, the returns to venture capital over the last 20 years have been mediocre at best.

When entrepreneurs capture as little as 5% of the value they create for others, it makes little sense to encourage successful risk-takers to quit working long before they achieve outsize success. With the effect technological success has on the productivity of talented American workers, who are our constraint to growth, and the effect of their productivity on the growth of middle-class incomes relative to Europe, that’s not a “policy failure.”

The fastest way to accelerate America’s growth and increase tax revenues is to let high-skilled immigration expand our talent pool. Forty percent of America’s billion-dollar startups were founded by high-skilled immigrants—roughly the same percentage of STEM doctorates held by foreign-born American workers.

Mr. Conard is a fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, a retired Bain Capital partner, and publisher of Macro Roundup.


I'm guessing not many of those folks are wading across the Rio Grande
 
I hear you but they didn't mention natural resources. Natural resources certainly help, but I also think of the 'resource curse' (countries with more natural resources often have worse economies than those with less).
The world won it's war against Germany and Japan powered largely in part by cheap and plentiful Texas oil.
 
Thanks for posting.
I would also assume the US is still the leader because of our natural resources. Our ability to produce low cost energy for ourselves is unrivaled. This gives us a lot of independence. Hopefully, this upcoming administration will push further to keep us less dependent on critical products we currently are purchasing offshore.
It is huge part of it.
 
I hear you but they didn't mention natural resources. Natural resources certainly help, but I also think of the 'resource curse' (countries with more natural resources often have worse economies than those with less).
Russia has lots of oil but a crappy type of government that stifles personal success. And Venezuela is doing just wonderful...<sarcasm>
 
The world won it's war against Germany and Japan powered largely in part by cheap and plentiful Texas oil.
No doubt, but countries like Venezuela and others have tremendous natural resources too. It's all about what you do with them. The article emphasized America's risk taking culture, which leads to more innovation and ultimately higher growth compared to Europe.
 
I hear you but they didn't mention natural resources. Natural resources certainly help, but I also think of the 'resource curse' (countries with more natural resources often have worse economies than those with less).
Agreed, but we on the North American Continent, have unusual access to transportation from both coastlines which gives us the ability to export a lot of energy. Hopefully. we can now gain the ability to finish the Keystone pipeline which gives the US and Canada a rail free way to get oil to refineries and out for export. The key appears to be keeping crude at around $70/bbl which makes fracking feasible.

As for countries with a lot of natural resources but not a lot of practical low cost ways to capitalize on them, China seems to be making big moves to insert themselves into those countries.
 
No doubt, but countries like Venezuela and others have tremendous natural resources too. It's all about what you do with them. The article emphasized America's risk taking culture, which leads to more innovation and ultimately higher growth compared to Europe.
I got on this as I was typing a response. You hit it on the head with your risk taking comment. My son has been prepping and taking companies public for two decades. He felt most corporate leaders and hedge fund managers saw a 2024 Trump win very early on. Argue all you want but the President has a ton of input as to how business leaders invest in the future. Onerous regulations cripple innovation and "risk taking". I am really interested to see how Congress deals with Trump and his new sidekick, the ultimate "risk taker" Elon Musk.
 
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I got on this as I was typing a response. You hit it on the head with your risk taking comment. My son has been prepping and taking companies public for two decades. He felt most corporate leaders and hedge fund managers saw a 2024 Trump win very early on. Argue all you want but the President has a ton of input as to how business leaders invest in the future. Onerous regulations cripple innovation and "risk taking". I am really interested to see how Congress deals with Trump and his new sidekick, the ultimate "risk taker" Elon Musk.
Again I totally hear you, but this piece wasn't about partisan politics per se in America or Europe. Our (risk taking) culture has been forged through multiple Presidents (and Congress's) of each party.

I posted it because it's interesting to see the comparison and because we have people in America who would prefer we were more like Europe economically. Somehow this turned into a Trump thing which is not what the article is about.
 
I hear you but they didn't mention natural resources. Natural resources certainly help, but I also think of the 'resource curse' (countries with more natural resources often have worse economies than those with less).


That depends on how they're governed to some extent.

Many sub-Saharan African nations, for example, have an abundance of natural resources.

A lot of 'em still seem to depend on foreign aid to feed their people, don't they?
 
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