This man had no weapons and was not threatening the riders individually. He was mentally ill and ranting. Penny could have dialed 911 and had cops waiting at the next stop but he didn't, and now he's facing charges.
This man had no weapons and was not threatening the riders individually. He was mentally ill and ranting. Penny could have dialed 911 and had cops waiting at the next stop but he didn't, and now he's facing charges.
How could Penny know he didn't have a gun he was getting ready to pull
There we go...No we just wait for the others...and then add another thread to the list of tributes...
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The video shows Neely taking a breath after Penny let him go.I’m pretty sure Marines with his extensive training are taught the purpose of the particular hold he used on Neely. If he received training, he had to know when to let go or use another hold.
Any criminal or average person who had a concealed carry permit could have been armed. Are you going to suppose the worst about everyone and then act on it?
Witness says Jordan Neely started making death threats against passengers before Daniel Penny engaged him
Guess u missed that part
Was he waving a weapon around? Was he touching other riders?
You're jumping the gun without any facts, no surprise there. You've proven over and over that you have no compassion for the mentally ill.
How could Penny know he didn't have a gun he was getting ready to pull
NYC should put a 5% security tax and fund extra security on subway trains like air marshals but subway marshals.Why are passengers and witnesses stepping up to thank Daniel Penny and others who helped? They were there, and terrified.... If this is a "normal" incident on the subway, every car needs an officer assigned at all times....
Link up. That must have been on all the RW sites because it's not in the article I read. And AFAIK Penny never explained why he didn't dial 911.
[FONT=&]"Juan Alberto Vazquez was on the train when the deadly chokehold began and recorded the situation as it unfolded. [/FONT][FONT=&]As soon as Neely got on the train, he started yelling about being “fed up and hungry” and “tired of having nothing,” Vazquez told CNN.[/FONT]
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Before he was killed, Neely said, “I don’t care if I die. I don’t care if I go to jail. I don’t have any food … I’m done,” according to Vazquez.[/FONT]
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As the yelling continued, many passengers became visibly uncomfortable and moved to other parts of the train car. Neely did not appear to be armed or looking to attack anyone, Vazquez told CNN.[/FONT]
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Then a rider – later identified as Penny – came behind Neely and put him in a chokehold, with the two eventually falling to the floor, Vazquez said. Neely did not interact with that passenger at all prior to the attack, Vazquez continued."
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[/FONT]"Police sources told ABC News that Penny was not specifically being threatened by Neely when he intervened and that Neely had not become violent and had not been threatening anyone in particular."
https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/06/us/jordan-neely-subway-death-saturday/index.html
https://abc7.com/jordan-neely-video-daniel-penny-subway-chokehold/13242205/
If they are acting in a threatening manner ...yes
Are you saying secret service should not jump a person acting in a threatening manner at a Biden event
They should just wait till he pulls a gun
If you are going down that road why didn't Byrd restrain her instead of blowing a hole though her neck?If you're going down that road, how could the Capitol police know that Babbitt didn't have a gun in her backpack when she was breaking through the window?
I can verify this remark.
If you're going down that road, how could the Capitol police know that Babbitt didn't have a gun in her backpack when she was breaking through the window?
FIFYI'm saying that if people are acting in a threatening manner at a Biden rally, the Secret Service removes them without killing them. But it is OK to kill Republicans.